Conference Expansion - PAC 10

[1981Eagle]

TX and TAM to PAC10. Even the AD's don't konow what's going on iin their own conferences. Do you know what SNAFU stands for? How about FUBAR?


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/b ... aaf,221648

[pick6pedro]

TX and TAM to PAC10. Even the AD's don't konow what's going on iin their own conferences. Do you know what SNAFU stands for? How about FUBAR?


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/b ... aaf,221648

An apt last four words: "everyone is flying blind."

[1981Eagle]

No talks btwn Texas and B10.





http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... &type=lgns

[BCWest]

Hearing that as of today, it is ALL about Texas for the Pac 10. The Utah/Colorado thing is lukewarm at best.

[HJS]

How and why would Texas leave for the PAC10 for less money than they receive from the B12 when they can go to the Big Ten and double their conference take?

[BCWest]

How and why would Texas leave for the PAC10 for less money than they receive from the B12 when they can go to the Big Ten and double their conference take?

You are talking about Texas' view (or at least your opinion of Texas' view) on going to the Pac-10. I am strictly talking about what the Pac-10 is thinking.

As for the view from Texas, I have not talked to anyone. But, as for the $$$, if Texas goes to the Pac 10 and brings A&M with them, it is safe to assume the deal the Pac-10 gets will be meaningfully different than the current deal. Texas is extremely rare in that they are NOT about the money. They have a ton of it and no financial issues. Nor will they have any issues regardless of the TV deals or where they go or if they stay. Right now, Texas is in a conference with a per team payout that is below the ACC, Big Ten, SEC, etc. They raise whatever cash they need and it dwarfs any TV money. So for them, it will be much more about how much they like the conference post the moves and they will decide what to do. My guess is $ is not at the top of the list or even close for them.

[b0mberMan]

I never knew you were an 81 alias, West.

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[commavegarage]

Mods, please move this thread to the Conference Re-Alignment/Expansion thread.

Seriously people. There's a reason it's tacked.

[BCWest]

So... I emailed the following to one of my RU buddies: I fondly remember all you RU dirtbags screaming bloody murder over BC moving to the ACC. As Queen Gertrude once said: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Here was the response: It never made sense for a New England team to join a southern conference. And it mattered where they went because they were good, and had committed to helping to build a the new Big East football conference. Rutgers is not good. No one in the Big East is counting of them to stick around to build the conference. So it doesn't matter. What matters is how stupid it is to have a conference called the Big Ten with more than ten teams.

The sad thing here is that no school (except maybe Texas) will get the shit-storm BC received for switching alliances and no conference will similarly be so scorned as the ACC was a few years ago. It is amazing to me.

Suementhal, sueConn, the NY media, etc. all were complete jerks, phonies, etc.

[BCWest]

I never knew you were an 81 alias, West.

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Not sure what that means.

[pick6pedro]

TX and TAM to PAC10. Even the AD's don't konow what's going on iin their own conferences. Do you know what SNAFU stands for? How about FUBAR?


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/b ... aaf,221648

bump - 81 was right again!





"My favorite story that hasn't been written," Luck said. "After Syracuse and Pittsburgh (announced they were leaving for the ACC), that was in the same time frame that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were playing footsie with (Pac-12 commissioner) Larry (Scott) and the Big East was a mess."

So Luck began cold-calling athletic directors at Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State with a proposal.

"I didn't know those guys from Adam," Luck said. "I knew the schools. I told them, 'Your conference may fall apart. You guys look like you might get left behind. Why don't we take all of you and TCU, which was kind of homeless."

Luck's plan, which also had the support of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich, was also to add UCF for a 12-team Big East divided into two divisions: West: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU and Louisville; East: UConn, Cincinnati, Rutgers, West Virginia, South Florida and UCF.

"I remember thinking: 'That's not a bad conference,'" Luck said. "And we would have kept the affiliation with the (Big East) basketball schools, because they loved the addition of Kansas. They (the Big 12 schools) also liked it. They were nervous as hell, too. We had a series of phone calls. That was sort of our best option."

Luck said he had three or four phone discussions with the Big 12 schools. Then-Big East commissioner John Marinatto was not involved in the discussions and no formal offer was extended, but the Big 12 schools -- if left behind by the schools headed to the Pac-12 -- were prepared for the merger.

"At that point in time, we were ready to flip the switch," Currie said.