Northwestern New Stadium

[xu9697]

https://www.insidenu.com/2022/9/28/2337 ... ryan-field

For those that dare to dream about BC doing something.

[claver2010]

the opposite of filling in the corners

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

other than the reduction of capacity, this sounds like an isea that could have been fedexed to them

[angrychicken]

https://www.insidenu.com/2022/9/28/23377693/breaking-northwestern-releases-design-plans-for-new-ryan-field

For those that dare to dream about BC doing something.

It's very purple.

[DuchesneEast]

” According to the news release, the stadium will also “set a new standard for accessibility and inclusivity.”

Ok, great, who cares?

[Dick Rosenthal]

” According to the news release, the stadium will also “set a new standard for accessibility and inclusivity.”

Ok, great, who cares?

Accessibility is fine. We are going to be old someday, Duchie and I applaud the effort to make it possible for my nurse to wheel me down to the front row so I can spew invective as our team loses to Holy Cross in a Patriot League showdown sometime in 2065 or thereabouts.

Inclusivity? What the fuck does that even mean? Are the men's bathrooms going to include glory holes or the like so Hansen and his band of sinner degenerates can engage in whatever sick licentiousness they want? What kind of family-friendly atmosphere does that promote?

[DomingoOrtiz]

” According to the news release, the stadium will also “set a new standard for accessibility and inclusivity.”

Ok, great, who cares?

I am wondering how designers are building a football stadium to set a new standard for inclusivity? To start with, the Woke hate football for its toxic masculinity. If you can get by that hurdle, I am thinking bathrooms. So does the stadium need to have multiple different bathrooms labeled for every different perversion imaginable (all with changing tables and free tampons), or one big bathroom for everyone? Would the bathrooms need to have urinals large enough to accommodate a fan that may want to undress and lie in the urinal to be peed upon by the other visitors? And wait, may the free tampons trigger a visitor that identifies as a woman but cannot mensurate? So many questions! I just pray that NW gets it right... for the children.

[flyingelvii]

I have no idea what this means but boy howdy am I pre-angry about whatever it will turn out to be!

[Dick Rosenthal]

I have no idea what this means but boy howdy am I pre-angry about whatever it will turn out to be!

I think most here understand what it will mean, we are just gobsmacked by the implications of what it means as it relates to a football stadium. I suppose we should never be shocked by the American left.

[Manny]

Alumni is a good stadium. Sure, it could stand a few upgrades here and there, but anyone who thinks we need to build a new stadium - or add capacity, of all things - is higher than Willie Nelson in a blimp.

[Dick Rosenthal]

Alumni is a good stadium. Sure, it could stand a few upgrades here and there, but anyone who thinks we need to build a new stadium - or add capacity, of all things - is higher than Willie Nelson in a blimp.

This is correct. With our refusal to play in the NIL swimming pool, we ought to get ahead of the curve and reduce alumni to a few bleachers like the Diploma Mills High School complex aka Jack Coffey Field. When the ACC deal ends, and we are unceremoniously dumped into the Patriot League or the new A10 Football Conference. It will be good to get revenge against Saint Bonaventure for the beating Bonnie QB sensation Ted Marchibroda laid on us back in 52 before the Bonnies so cowardly dropped football and deprived us of the chance for revenge.

[durkcal]

this is one of the worst investments I can think of. I know wealthy people like to put their names on stadiums and hospitals and the like, but come on.

[claver2010]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni

[eagle33]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni

when will the new ad emerge from under his rock to let us know what's planned.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

please tell me the dude on the left is mike farrell

[angrychicken]

please tell me the dude on the left is mike farrell

I'm more concerned that Happy Gilmore's caddy is there.

[DuchesneEast]

[quote="claver2010"]seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni



So we have a picture, whats the story behind it?

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni



So we have a picture, whats the story behind it?

based on the presenters, i'm guessing the story is mostly gay

[hansen]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni



So we have a picture, whats the story behind it?

based on the presenters, i'm guessing the story is mostly gay

And you weren’t invited?

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni



So we have a picture, whats the story behind it?

based on the presenters, i'm guessing the story is mostly gay

And you weren’t invited?

I guess I didn’t make your list of invitees

[hansen]

seems like there might be some upgrades in the works for aluminumni



So we have a picture, whats the story behind it?

based on the presenters, i'm guessing the story is mostly gay

And you weren’t invited?

I guess I didn’t make your list of invitees

Not only was I not there, I wasn’t even invited!

[claver2010]

sounds familiar:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-northw ... eatst_pos5

It’s Northwestern vs. Evanston Neighbors Over a New $800 Million Stadium That Will Host Concerts and Serve Booze

By Douglas Belkin

EVANSTON, Ill.—The most dramatic action in this suburb of Chicago has always played out in Northwestern University’s pancake-yellow stadium on football Saturdays. This spring, though, the hardest hits are coming from some of its neighbors.

Residents in the tree-lined neighborhood are exercised about a plan to replace the 47,000-seat Ryan Field stadium, which opened in 1926.

For decades, the concrete colossus has hosted six or seven football games a year and little else. No alcohol is served inside the stadium. But if Northwestern has its way, the field’s replacement will accommodate those home games as well as women’s lacrosse matches, 10 stadium concerts and an unlimited number of events of up to 10,000 people on the plaza around the stadium. Alcohol will be on the menu.

“You’ll have people spilling out of concerts drunk at 10:30, 11 o’clock, walking around your neighborhood. There will be crimes of opportunity,” said John Sorensen, who lives across the street from Ryan Field. “We’re usually asleep by then.”

Northwestern has a complicated relationship with its host city, a community so politically liberal and opinionated some call it “The People’s Republic of Evanston.” Two decades ago, the school and city landed on a list of the worst town-gown relationships in the nation.

Friction is rising again as the university seeks a zoning change for a new, $800 million complex. Northwestern has raised hundreds of millions of dollars and launched a public-relations campaign with a descriptive if not exactly catchy tagline: “Rebuilding Ryan Field: A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to transform lives in Evanston.”

Plenty of neighbors would prefer their lives remain untransformed.

More than 1,000 people have signed a petition calling for city leaders not to rubber-stamp the project. Signs dot front yards deriding “MegaConcerts” and “Profiteering.” Residents pack local meetings.

Opposition research has fueled accusations of NIMBY hypocrisy by a wealthy Northwestern trustee and stadium supporter who himself fought a construction project near his Martha’s Vineyard summer residence.

Underlying the drive for the new complex is an amenities arms race that dominates American higher education.

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A woman in a graduation gown walked onto the Northwestern campus in May 2020. It was nearly deserted then because of the coronavirus.
PHOTO: TANNEN MAURY/EPA/SHUTTERSTOCK
Northwestern, an exclusive university that charges tuition of $62,000 a year, has spent about $1 billion over 10 years erecting a constellation of glittering glass- and steel-sheathed buildings along its private Lake Michigan shore, drawing comparisons to the Emerald City from “The Wizard of Oz.”

Concerts and other nonfootball events are needed to help cover the new stadium’s cost, Northwestern says. But it needs a zoning change from the city to be able to host concerts. Without the change, the project might not go forward.

Proponents include hotels, restaurants and fans of Northwestern Wildcats football. The school estimates the local economic impact of the construction and operation of the stadium at $1.2 billion by 2031. A university-commissioned poll reported two-to-one support for the new facility. Supporters have posted their own lawn signs: “Let’s Build The New Ryan Field; Only Private Dollars, All Public Benefits.”

Steve Starkman and his brother Lonnie co-own Mustard’s Last Stand, a hot dog shop their father opened in 1969 in front of the stadium. Northwestern has bent over backward to appease cranky neighbors, Steve says. It lowered the volume of a wildcat growling during games after residents complained. The new stadium would have fewer seats than the current one and better security, a greener footprint and vastly improved handicap accessibility.

He has little sympathy for those fighting it. “Everybody here moved in after the stadium was already built, so I don’t really think they have a leg to stand on when they say they don’t want a stadium,” he said. “I just think people want to battle. That’s kind of the mindset here. Evanston is a battling town.”



Steve Starkman, at left with son Nick, is a co-owner of Mustard's Last Stand, a landmark hot dog shop his father opened in 1969 in front of the stadium. Northwestern has bent over backward to appease cranky neighbors, Mr. Starkman says.
STEVE STARKMAN
Mr. Starkman, who is 56, said complaints about fans urinating on lawns and bushes after games are exaggerated and happen only when Northwestern hosts Ohio State.

Wisconsin fans party very hard but are “nice and respectful,” he said; Michigan State fans are “brilliant, lots of doctors and judges”; Michigan supporters are “ruffians” but generally well behaved; Iowa’s are the friendliest in the Big Ten, and Nebraska’s fans are the most likely to arrive in pickups.

“Ohio State fans are the only problem,” Mr. Starkman said. “They have a monster following, and they think the world is their bathroom.”

Asked about that, Ohio State declined to comment.

Sonia Cohen moved into a home a few streets away from the stadium 30 years ago. Over the years, she attended just one football game, but tracked the schedule so she could navigate the congestion and overflow parking during home games.

When she learned of the new-stadium plan from a university mailing in September, she noticed that the parking lots were replaced in the drawing with grassy plazas. “They look nice,” she thought—”but where is everyone going to park?”

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Neighbor Sonia Cohen is concerned about parking and congestion near the stadium, among other things.
PHOTO: AARON COHEN
The 68-year-old retired business-systems analyst joined a group to fight the plan. At Office Depot, she printed out fliers with the headline “Say No to Commercial Events at Northwestern.”

She also started doing research, and came across a letter concerning a dispute 1,000 miles away in Massachusetts. It was written by Peter Barris, the chair of Northwestern’s Board of Trustees and chairman emeritus of venture-capital firm New Enterprise Associates.

Across the water from Mr. Barris’s Martha’s Vineyard home, which Zillow values at $24 million, sits the Harbor View Hotel, a century-old landmark with a broad porch and rooms that go for up to $2,200 a night. In 1975, the cast of “Jaws” stayed there during filming.

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Ms. Cohen learned that trustee and stadium proponent Peter Barris once opposed a hotel’s construction work near his home. Mr. Barris said his objections were unrelated to his duties as chair of Northwestern’s board of trustees.
PHOTO: OLIVIER DOULIERY/PRESS POOL
A new owner has expanded the bar and restaurant. Neighbors including Mr. Barris have asked the local government to rein in the expansion to keep with the character of the surrounding neighborhood.

“Although our residence is a mile away by road it sits directly across the harbor,” Mr. Barris wrote in a 2021 letter to the local government. “Sounds are very efficiently carried across the water, particularly when the winds are blowing out of the north.” His request: “Protect us from the unbridled development that puts at risk the very things that brought us here in the first place.”

Ms. Cohen emailed the letter to fellow activists.

“At first I thought it was a parody,” said one, David DeCarlo. “Any one of us could have written that exact same letter about the stadium.”

Mr. Barris said his objections about the Harbor View Hotel were unrelated to his duties as chair of Northwestern’s board of trustees.

“The surfacing of this personal circumstance, which is distinctly dissimilar to Northwestern’s proposal, is an attempt to distract from our goals—to transform a century-old stadium into a community asset that will benefit all of Evanston and create one of the finest stadiums in the country,” he said by email.

Northwestern is doing everything it can to address neighbors’ concerns, said Dave Davis, its executive director of neighborhood and community relations.

Some people just don’t like change, he said. “It would be unrealistic for me to just say that no one is going to have an issue with our stadium project.”

Last Thursday, Northwestern announced it had selected a company to manage the construction of the project.

[Shoreagle]

The hot dog shack owner might have a problem next time Ohio State or Michigan come to town.

[Dick Rosenthal]

The hot dog shack owner might have a problem next time Ohio State or Michigan come to town.

But he ain't lying about Ohio State fans. They are some of the worst people on Earth. Michigan fans are terrible, but in a different kind of way. The Walmart Wolverines never travel because they can't afford to or the terms of their probation prevent them from leaving the state. The alum fans are mostly dorks--nebbishy Jewish kids from the east coast, Chicago or LA--or prissy little sissies like elvii or Murt.

[Shoreagle]

The hot dog shack owner might have a problem next time Ohio State or Michigan come to town.

The alum fans are mostly dorks--nebbishy Jewish kids from the east coast, Chicago or LA--or prissy little sissies like elvii or Murt.

Or Dave Portnoy

[Logitano]

The hot dog shack owner might have a problem next time Ohio State or Michigan come to town.

But he ain't lying about Ohio State fans. They are some of the worst people on Earth. Michigan fans are terrible, but in a different kind of way. The Walmart Wolverines never travel because they can't afford to or the terms of their probation prevent them from leaving the state. The alum fans are mostly dorks--nebbishy Jewish kids from the east coast, Chicago or LA--or prissy little sissies like elvii or Murt.

This.