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Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:12 am
by ATLeagle
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Also, Jurk, even at 60%, would have probably had us at 7-2 or 8-1.

I’d argue that the Jurk we saw tonight… who spent most of his time throwing Grosel-like pop-flies would have this team undefeated in an unimpressive, Wake-like fashion. The fear that there is a chance he could grip the ball long enough to hit one of the many wide open receivers 1/3 of the time, is enough to remove folks from the box. But, the threat to run is what truly separates him and what turns those 4 inexcusable losses to Ws.


Jurkovec’s throws will get crisper week by week as the pain recedes and he shakes off the rust. But if Wake remains undefeated when we play them Thanksgiving weekend, the ACC crew will desperately protect them. Phantom pass interference, poor spots, quick whistles and slanted enforcement on holding are all in play. We’ll need Jurkovec at his best to win a shootout against a high-powered ref-assisted Wake team trying to squeak into the CFP on behalf of the conference.


Wake will be Jurk and Zay's last game. We will win and knock Wake out of any playoff talk.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:30 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
when wake loses at Carolina today, our game on thanksgiving Saturday will be as meaningless as usual. The aluminum draped fans will be out in full force

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:04 am
by Corporal Funishment
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:Watching Dennis Grosel go 10/23 for 116 yards with the words “For Welles” on his back will be deeply hurtful to everybody that knew Welles Crowther


Jurk had 112 yards.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:23 am
by commavegarage
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:Also, Jurk, even at 60%, would have probably had us at 7-2 or 8-1.

I’d argue that the Jurk we saw tonight… who spent most of his time throwing Grosel-like pop-flies would have this team undefeated in an unimpressive, Wake-like fashion. The fear that there is a chance he could grip the ball long enough to hit one of the many wide open receivers 1/3 of the time, is enough to remove folks from the box. But, the threat to run is what truly separates him and what turns those 4 inexcusable losses to Ws.


Jurkovec’s throws will get crisper week by week as the pain recedes and he shakes off the rust. But if Wake remains undefeated when we play them Thanksgiving weekend, the ACC crew will desperately protect them. Phantom pass interference, poor spots, quick whistles and slanted enforcement on holding are all in play. We’ll need Jurkovec at his best to win a shootout against a high-powered ref-assisted Wake team trying to squeak into the CFP on behalf of the conference.


Wake will be Jurk and Zay's last game. We will win and knock Wake out of any playoff talk.


Phil Shinskie

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:59 am
by twballgame9
Jurk was fine. Grosel starts we lose 3 to 0. Quit your bitching.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:01 am
by MF73-Eleazar
I'm just glad the team won. Student section was into it.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:15 am
by claver2010
while not the gospel, you won't find zay on any top 100 draft rankings. doesn't really make sense to leave to be at best a 4th round pick

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:24 pm
by twballgame9
I think Misfit Lion was being ironic.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:52 pm
by 2001Eagle
Was he?

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:05 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:when wake loses at Carolina today, our game on thanksgiving Saturday will be as meaningless as usual. The aluminum draped fans will be out in full force

time stamp.

Anyone that didn’t hit the over of that game hard hates free money

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:12 pm
by HJS
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:when wake loses at Carolina today, our game on thanksgiving Saturday will be as meaningless as usual. The aluminum draped fans will be out in full force

time stamp.

Anyone that didn’t hit the over of that game hard hates free money

Does this mean Zay Glass won’t have their last game over T-Day weekend? I mean if the NFL was willing to overlook terrible seasons by both based upon beating an 8th place undefeated Wake team… shouldn’t they equally overlook down years based upon beating a multi-loss Deacon squad? Either way, neither iteration would be a part of the playoff conversation.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:52 pm
by Corporal Funishment
What the ship of fools who post here is too foolish to realize is that Hafley will be an NFL head coach before the draft - he'll be drafting his guys.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:13 pm
by hansen
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Was he?


I don’t think so

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:23 pm
by 2001Eagle
Redskins had a scout at the game to see Phil

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:53 pm
by Eagle1999
I think Phil and Zay are both gone. I think Phil rushed his return to “show toughness” and didn’t want his last film to be a broken hand versus UMASS. Remember he was supposed to be out through Wake. If he can get a few more wins and a bowl win with a decent performance he’s gone. He absolutely cannot come back another year and get hurt.

Zay realizes he needs Phil. Nobody else can consistently get him the ball. I would suggest mining the portal for a QB to come in and challenge what we have in the pipeline since it struggled to beat out Grosel but I don’t know if that’s enough to keep Zay.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:59 pm
by hansen





Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:08 pm
by Corporal Funishment
hansen {l Wrote}:






681 days since you know who mentioned You Know Who

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:25 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
Thornton Melon {l Wrote}:Radial. I guess I never saw if they announced which bone he broke. But I had pain on both sides through the range of movement.

FWIW, in the post game interview he said it was his wrist

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:24 pm
by HJS
I’ll say it… if Jurk leaves, it was a terrible move to bring him in and push Anthony Brown to Oregon. Kid has played in like 5 games at 100% and hasn’t brought us to a winning season. I don’t care what he does in the pros. But, if he’s gone in November, all he’ll be remembered for is poster-inspired Free Jurk/Jurk Watch internet memes.

The real tragedy will be that we’ll have to wait a good 4-5 years before recruiting another QB. Realistically, who would want to come here and have to deal with long shadow cast by such a formidable icon?

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:17 am
by claver2010
i know everyone has an agenda but

i'm rooting for anthony, he was an awesome rep of bc and never shit talked the program but did you watch the oregon game? that performance was positively groselian

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:25 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
claver2010 {l Wrote}:i know everyone has an agenda but

i'm rooting for anthony, he was an awesome rep of bc and never shit talked the program but did you watch the oregon game? that performance was positively groselian

remember that moj also touts the awesomeness of cesspool because he played in the cfl for so long, ignoring that he had a negative td to int ratio of almost 1:2 while p0wning that league.

but maybe glass phil will wind up there and we'll find out there is something in the duck water that keeps easily breakable qbs from breaking. with ab it may just be coincidence, but if phil could get not broken there as well... there might just be something in the wate

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:06 am
by DomingoOrtiz
hansen {l Wrote}:Image


Didn't Muse play?

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:36 am
by ATLeagle
HJS {l Wrote}:I’ll say it… if Jurk leaves, it was a terrible move to bring him in and push Anthony Brown to Oregon. Kid has played in like 5 games at 100% and hasn’t brought us to a winning season. I don’t care what he does in the pros. But, if he’s gone in November, all he’ll be remembered for is poster-inspired Free Jurk/Jurk Watch internet memes.

The real tragedy will be that we’ll have to wait a good 4-5 years before recruiting another QB. Realistically, who would want to come here and have to deal with long shadow cast by such a formidable icon?


How can you be on Jurk for being glass yet not address AB's propensity to get hurt?

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:50 pm
by Corporal Funishment
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:I’ll say it… if Jurk leaves, it was a terrible move to bring him in and push Anthony Brown to Oregon. Kid has played in like 5 games at 100% and hasn’t brought us to a winning season. I don’t care what he does in the pros. But, if he’s gone in November, all he’ll be remembered for is poster-inspired Free Jurk/Jurk Watch internet memes.

The real tragedy will be that we’ll have to wait a good 4-5 years before recruiting another QB. Realistically, who would want to come here and have to deal with long shadow cast by such a formidable icon?


How can you be on Jurk for being glass yet not address AB's propensity to get hurt?


Due to the extreme fragility of our starting QB over the past few years, it has been a Godsend to have a backup who is seemingly unbreakable (no matter how many hits he is forced to take). Morehead lasted 3 possessions until he got concussed, and he's a pretty big guy.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:28 pm
by HJS
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:I’ll say it… if Jurk leaves, it was a terrible move to bring him in and push Anthony Brown to Oregon. Kid has played in like 5 games at 100% and hasn’t brought us to a winning season. I don’t care what he does in the pros. But, if he’s gone in November, all he’ll be remembered for is poster-inspired Free Jurk/Jurk Watch internet memes.

The real tragedy will be that we’ll have to wait a good 4-5 years before recruiting another QB. Realistically, who would want to come here and have to deal with long shadow cast by such a formidable icon?


How can you be on Jurk for being glass yet not address AB's propensity to get hurt?

What is ABs career record as a starter? It is self-explanatory.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:15 pm
by OCs_Inner_Eagle
HJS {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:I’ll say it… if Jurk leaves, it was a terrible move to bring him in and push Anthony Brown to Oregon. Kid has played in like 5 games at 100% and hasn’t brought us to a winning season. I don’t care what he does in the pros. But, if he’s gone in November, all he’ll be remembered for is poster-inspired Free Jurk/Jurk Watch internet memes.

The real tragedy will be that we’ll have to wait a good 4-5 years before recruiting another QB. Realistically, who would want to come here and have to deal with long shadow cast by such a formidable icon?


How can you be on Jurk for being glass yet not address AB's propensity to get hurt?

What is ABs career record as a starter? It is self-explanatory.


AB has never been central to BC nor Oregon winning. He's been reasonably productive of course, but numerous quarterbacks could have gotten BC and Oregon to perform as they did with AB. Some would be better game managers; others would be better runners or throwers. But however they did it, they'd match AB at both places.

To me Jurkovec is rare in that he threatens every square inch of the field. It's really QBs like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields who have done this in college. Certainly not AB, which is no shame as in FBS not many QBs really can do that. Last year Jurkovec wasn't as accurate and probably didn't hit receivers in as good position as he could. Both factors have improved this year so far as I can tell, though I'm admittedly extrapolating from the Colgate game & his limited capacity vs. VT.

Many QBs, including AB, probably could have had BC at 6-3 or 7-2 right now (losses to at least NC State and Louisville). Jurkovec I think would have had them at 8-1 or 9-0, as I don't think any of the games would have gotten out of control. To me a healthy Jurkovec is that good at stretching the field and warping the defense's geometry. Each week he should get closer to that level as the pain in the wrist recedes bit by bit.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:27 pm
by HJS
You just argued why you would draft Jurk over AB. Congrats. Agreed.

The bottom line is we aren’t 7-2 with Glass Phil on the roster while AB is piloting Oregon into the playoffs. Sure… it’s with the benefit of hindsight. But, that’s precisely the comment… we’d be better off with a health AB than an injured Jurk.

Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:06 pm
by hansen
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
681 days since you know who mentioned You Know Who


Add another day to the counter.


Re: Official Gameday Thread - VTech at BC - 11/5/2021

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:46 am
by hansen
hansen {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Hearing some great news!


Is it the rumor about Phil… Is there truth to it?

Image


I just noticed this now. :lol: