No one could be worse than Addazio

[DavidGordonsFoot]

This team sucks ass

[billyshelby]

I think Hafley is learning hard lessons on the fly about how to manage terrible QB situations and shore up weak spots through the transfer portal. Other questions can be raised about how he handles the loyalty to players vs players understanding that performance and winning will always trump loyalty. The defense can look great at times, and I think it will get better. Hopefully he's also learning about how to manage an offense even when that's not his forte. The recruiting has been relatively solid so I have hope for him.

[JesuitIvy]

I hope its not the case with Haf. The Dazzler was a decent coach when things went as planned - i.e. the pushover Howards and Webers of the world (or was Weber Spaz?). When things went sideways, he was awful. I dont think Haf is that level of meatheaf but boy, he better figure out a way to get an ACC win this season.

[twballgame9]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

[hansen]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

[twballgame9]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

You supporting it makes it even more stupid.

[Corporal Funishment]

Someone look up the 1st half - 2nd half splits with Hafley as coach. They have to be historically bad.

What is this man saying at Haf-time?

[twballgame9]

Someone look up the 1st half - 2nd half splits with Hafley as coach. They have to be historically bad.

What is this man saying at Haf-time?

It's cool. Grosel will fix it.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Harley probably got vaccinated…

[hansen]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

You supporting it makes it even more stupid.

Feels like a Thursday night fifteen years ago.

[twballgame9]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

You supporting it makes it even more stupid.

Feels like a Thursday night fifteen years ago.

You've been really stupid more recently than that.

[HJS]

I think that Hafley should learn that ignoring cracks in the foundation is not something you can do. We all knew from last year that the OLine coach was a fucking mess. But, Hafley didn’t want to make the hard decision and move on from his guy. We all knew that Jurk was talented but easily injured. We knew that Grosel could do little more than finish a game Jurk started by handoffs and throwing 5-yard patterns (but wasn’t the guy to start). But, Hafley didn’t want to adjust his plan of Jurk-to-Morehead. Basically, he rolled the dice that Applebaum wouldn’t suck and Glass Phil would start every game. It has collapsed in spectacular fashion. Shit is what it is and it ain’t changing. We are losing out. He has no one to blame but himself. You will see the non-awful assistants move on and we will likely lose a couple of top recruits.

I’ll give him massive props on the D. There is no talent talent there beyond the secondary and they have turned that into a strength. Going into the season (from a personnel perspective), we all thought the O would have to put up basketball scores to cover for the sieve of a D. Instead, the D has to keep the game in the baseball score range.

At this point, Hafley should just waive the white flag and build for the future. Grosel needs to do nothing more this year than hold a clipboard. It should be Morehead and Menard/Rueve from here on out. We are losing every game anyway. At least you are giving kids who will be in the program past November so experience that could payoff down the road.

[hansen]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

You supporting it makes it even more stupid.

Feels like a Thursday night fifteen years ago.

You've been really stupid more recently than that.

[eepstein0]

I think that Hafley should learn that ignoring cracks in the foundation is not something you can do. We all knew from last year that the OLine coach was a fucking mess. But, Hafley didn’t want to make the hard decision and move on from his guy. We all knew that Jurk was talented but easily injured. We knew that Grosel could do little more than finish a game Jurk started by handoffs and throwing 5-yard patterns (but wasn’t the guy to start). But, Hafley didn’t want to adjust his plan of Jurk-to-Morehead. Basically, he rolled the dice that Applebaum wouldn’t suck and Glass Phil would start every game. It has collapsed in spectacular fashion. Shit is what it is and it ain’t changing. We are losing out. He has no one to blame but himself. You will see the non-awful assistants move on and we will likely lose a couple of top recruits.

I’ll give him massive props on the D. There is no talent talent there beyond the secondary and they have turned that into a strength. Going into the season (from a personnel perspective), we all thought the O would have to put up basketball scores to cover for the sieve of a D. Instead, the D has to keep the game in the baseball score range.

At this point, Hafley should just waive the white flag and build for the future. Grosel needs to do nothing more this year than hold a clipboard. It should be Morehead and Menard/Rueve from here on out. We are losing every game anyway. At least you are giving kids who will be in the program past November so experience that could payoff down the road.

If we start losing top assistants and recruits this thing is doomed

[hansen]

I think that Hafley should learn that ignoring cracks in the foundation is not something you can do. We all knew from last year that the OLine coach was a fucking mess. But, Hafley didn’t want to make the hard decision and move on from his guy. We all knew that Jurk was talented but easily injured. We knew that Grosel could do little more than finish a game Jurk started by handoffs and throwing 5-yard patterns (but wasn’t the guy to start). But, Hafley didn’t want to adjust his plan of Jurk-to-Morehead. Basically, he rolled the dice that Applebaum wouldn’t suck and Glass Phil would start every game. It has collapsed in spectacular fashion. Shit is what it is and it ain’t changing. We are losing out. He has no one to blame but himself. You will see the non-awful assistants move on and we will likely lose a couple of top recruits.

I’ll give him massive props on the D. There is no talent talent there beyond the secondary and they have turned that into a strength. Going into the season (from a personnel perspective), we all thought the O would have to put up basketball scores to cover for the sieve of a D. Instead, the D has to keep the game in the baseball score range.

At this point, Hafley should just waive the white flag and build for the future. Grosel needs to do nothing more this year than hold a clipboard. It should be Morehead and Menard/Rueve from here on out. We are losing every game anyway. At least you are giving kids who will be in the program past November so experience that could payoff down the road.

If we start losing top assistants and recruits this thing is doomed

For that reason, I think whether or not Hafley wins 2 of the next 4 very well could define his tenure. If he doesn’t then it will be a downward spiral which will be hard to reverse.

[2001Eagle]

I think that Hafley should learn that ignoring cracks in the foundation is not something you can do. We all knew from last year that the OLine coach was a fucking mess. But, Hafley didn’t want to make the hard decision and move on from his guy. We all knew that Jurk was talented but easily injured. We knew that Grosel could do little more than finish a game Jurk started by handoffs and throwing 5-yard patterns (but wasn’t the guy to start). But, Hafley didn’t want to adjust his plan of Jurk-to-Morehead. Basically, he rolled the dice that Applebaum wouldn’t suck and Glass Phil would start every game. It has collapsed in spectacular fashion. Shit is what it is and it ain’t changing. We are losing out. He has no one to blame but himself. You will see the non-awful assistants move on and we will likely lose a couple of top recruits.

I’ll give him massive props on the D. There is no talent talent there beyond the secondary and they have turned that into a strength. Going into the season (from a personnel perspective), we all thought the O would have to put up basketball scores to cover for the sieve of a D. Instead, the D has to keep the game in the baseball score range.

At this point, Hafley should just waive the white flag and build for the future. Grosel needs to do nothing more this year than hold a clipboard. It should be Morehead and Menard/Rueve from here on out. We are losing every game anyway. At least you are giving kids who will be in the program past November so experience that could payoff down the road.

If we start losing top assistants and recruits this thing is doomed

Who the are the “top” assistants you’re worried about? Other than the DC, I don’t really see it.

[innocentbystander]

I think that Hafley should learn that ignoring cracks in the foundation is not something you can do. We all knew from last year that the OLine coach was a fucking mess. But, Hafley didn’t want to make the hard decision and move on from his guy. We all knew that Jurk was talented but easily injured. We knew that Grosel could do little more than finish a game Jurk started by handoffs and throwing 5-yard patterns (but wasn’t the guy to start). But, Hafley didn’t want to adjust his plan of Jurk-to-Morehead. Basically, he rolled the dice that Applebaum wouldn’t suck and Glass Phil would start every game. It has collapsed in spectacular fashion. Shit is what it is and it ain’t changing. We are losing out. He has no one to blame but himself. You will see the non-awful assistants move on and we will likely lose a couple of top recruits.

I’ll give him massive props on the D. There is no talent talent there beyond the secondary and they have turned that into a strength. Going into the season (from a personnel perspective), we all thought the O would have to put up basketball scores to cover for the sieve of a D. Instead, the D has to keep the game in the baseball score range.

At this point, Hafley should just waive the white flag and build for the future. Grosel needs to do nothing more this year than hold a clipboard. It should be Morehead and Menard/Rueve from here on out. We are losing every game anyway. At least you are giving kids who will be in the program past November so experience that could payoff down the road.

If we start losing top assistants and recruits this thing is doomed

Who the are the “top” assistants you’re worried about? Other than the DC, I don’t really see it.

I don't think any of these assistant coaches are essential to Hafley's program. Lose a few more games, Hafley is not even essential.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

it's starting to look like even hafley isn't essential to hafley's program

[durkcal]

Given our current W drought against P5 teams, I wondered when were the last times BC had a complete effort against P5 teams. My impression is that BC has been getting by with reliance on a few standouts, and rarely seems to be able to field a team that is just plain better on both sides of the ball. I defined a "complete effort" as a game where BC had at least 430 yards of offense, and held the opponent to 370 yards or less. Think of this as a top 1/3 offensive day and a top 1/3 defensive day.

The results:

best P5 games off defense
more than 430 less than 370

10/19/2019 NC State 532 366
10/26/2018 miami 433 305
10/13/2018 louisville 430 217
10/21/2017 virginia 512 247
9/13/2014 USC 506 337

Basically Haf is yet to do it. And Daz only managed to do it 2x in 2018.

I stopped looking before I got to 2014.

[BCMurt09]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

I am going to ban you for comparing two years of Hafley (really 1) and seven years of Addazio

[HJS]

Given our current W drought against P5 teams, I wondered when were the last times BC had a complete effort against P5 teams. My impression is that BC has been getting by with reliance on a few standouts, and rarely seems to be able to field a team that is just plain better on both sides of the ball. I defined a "complete effort" as a game where BC had at least 430 yards of offense, and held the opponent to 370 yards or less. Think of this as a top 1/3 offensive day and a top 1/3 defensive day.

The results:

best P5 games off defense
more than 430 less than 370

10/19/2019 NC State 532 366
10/26/2018 miami 433 305
10/13/2018 louisville 430 217
10/21/2017 virginia 512 247
9/13/2014 USC 506 337

Basically Haf is yet to do it. And Daz only managed to do it 2x in 2018.

I stopped looking before I got to 2014.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/m ... =401282086
You either forgot that Mizzou was a member of the SEC or defined "complete effort" with awkward-looking stats that purposely gave the result you intended.

[Corporal Funishment]

Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid.

If Daz wins today then they are both have career 0.500 records against FBS.

Not saying I agree with the argument just that it’s not outrageous to at least argue it.

I am going to ban you for comparing two years of Hafley (really 1) and seven years of Addazio

Excuses, schmexcuses - Daz went 3-3 in the ACC with Dennis Grosel as starting quarterback.

The difference lies deeper...

edit: actually, 3-2! I was counting the Louisville game started by Brownie Ice. Daz had a winning league record with Grosel! ... and he got fired!

[BCEagles25]

I feel like a moron playing into a joke, but Addazio had a large sample size. Even if this argument wasn’t being tongue-in-cheek it would still be brick stupid

[Dick Rosenthal]

I feel like a moron playing into a joke, but Addazio had a large sample size. Even if this argument wasn’t being tongue-in-cheek it would still be brick stupid

This is your daily reminder that fighting with a shtick is a waste of time.