This team has quit on Hafley

[HJS]

And it is all Hafley’s fault for not replacing Grosel. When your coach refuses to adjust and purposely puts the team in unwinnable situations, there is only so much the players can take. The in-fighting… the displays of frustration… the heated conversations… it is all signs of a players saying “fuck you coach” every time Jazzercise takes a snap.

[twballgame9]

I actually don't think they quit. I think Grosel is that bad and they don't have a defense that can overcome being on the field all game.

[HJS]

They played hard. It’s a testament to the type of kids we get that it took this long. But, the infighting and frustration has boiled onto the field today. It was the tipping point. It goes completely off the rails if Grosel starts versus Cuse. Mark my words.

[eagle33]

it's already off the rails.

[hansen]

They played hard. It’s a testament to the type of kids we get that it took this long. But, the infighting and frustration has boiled onto the field today. It was the tipping point. It goes completely off the rails if Grosel starts versus Cuse. Mark my words.

I noticed some arguing between 9 and some of his teammates. Not sure how big of an issue that will be going forward.

I don’t think the team has quit though in my opinion at least not compared to some of the FSU teams I’ve seen quit in the past.

[eagle33]

someone's been drinking the snake oil

[HJS]

It isn’t just Woodbey’s facemask. The WRs and TEs are doing the thing where they have both arms raised in frustration as if to say “What the fuck???” There was a lot of heads hanging down on both sides of the ball when we went 3-and-out after another turnover.

[Corporal Funishment]

It isn’t just Woodbey’s facemask. The WRs and TEs are doing the thing where they have both arms raised in frustration as if to say “What the fuck???” There was a lot of heads hanging down on both sides of the ball when we went 3-and-out after another turnover.

In this fan fiction you're writing, were all the personal fouls last year also due to frustration with the fact that 12 months later, Grosel would be the quarterback?

[tailgater94]

Are you suggesting the frustration is that someone else should be playing QB instead of Grossel, or is it just frustration that they can’t win with Grossel?

[tailgater94]

We’re all convinced of the latter, but haven’t seen anything to suggest the former

[twballgame9]

Flowers reaction today suggests both.

[Eagle1999]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

[eepstein0]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

You do realize we have a preferred walk on and a kid no other P5 school wanted behind him on the depth chart?

[twballgame9]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

You do realize we have a preferred walk on and a kid no other P5 school wanted behind him on the depth chart?

This is a terrible reason to stick with him. I'd rather lose giving someone else a chance.

[Eagle1999]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

You do realize we have a preferred walk on and a kid no other P5 school wanted behind him on the depth chart?

So basically Grosel 2.0 and Grosel 3.0?

[eepstein0]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

You do realize we have a preferred walk on and a kid no other P5 school wanted behind him on the depth chart?

So basically Grosel 2.0 and Grosel 3.0?

Again who knows we’ve never seen them play.

[Eagle1999]

Oklahoma benches Rattler.
Clemson benches DJ.
We won’t bench Grosel. This is mind-numbing. It’s clear we can’t win with him. Why not see what the hell else there is? This stubbornness will lead to Hafley losing the team. And he will deserve it.

You do realize we have a preferred walk on and a kid no other P5 school wanted behind him on the depth chart?

So basically Grosel 2.0 and Grosel 3.0?

Again who knows we’ve never seen them play.

You are correct. We haven’t seen them play. But I wouldn’t dismiss them because of PWO or non-Power 5 status. Remember Grosel was a PWO with non-P5 status. We have all seen enough of Grosel to know he isn’t capable. Someone else needs a shot. Even if it’s to reaffirm that Grosel is the best we have. You can see the frustration in the other players. It’s building every week. The receivers were the most demonstrative I have seen yet. And the defense can’t be happy after forcing 4 turnovers. Something needs to change and that’s the QB position.

And spare me the “he doesn’t know/can’t run the offense” bullshit. The QB doesn’t need to know page 123. Give him 10 runs and 10 passes. Keep it simple. If he can’t do just that, you screwed up by recruiting him.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I’ll remind everyone of the “no one can be worse than Chris crane” cries… and what that led to

[HJS]

I’ll remind everyone of the “no one can be worse than Chris crane” cries… and what that led to

Us finally playing a QB who went on to play 9-years professionally.