Official Gameday Thread - BC vs. NC State - 10/16/2021

[49dueagle]

Two words...Grosel sucks...case closed.

[hansen]

[twballgame9]

[StratEagle]

Olivia Newton John (arrangement by Philip Glass)

[HJS]

BC scored on its first drive of the game. And then mustered -2 points the rest of the way. I’d love for one of these “reporters” to ask Hafley what he plans to do in the future so that he never enters a season with 1 QB on the roster.

[eagletx]

Its easy to obsess about a QB all knew was D3 capable. I'm more alarmed at things like a defensive secondary that allegedly was supposed to be so good. Admittedly, I went to bed after they scored their 31st point, but what I saw before that was NC St. adjust in second half with short crossing routes and delayed dumps over the middle without a defensive player in sight that went regularly for 10+ yards. Initially you can blame LBs, but on this defense they are committed to bolstering against the weaknesses of the DL. A t some point the DBs have to adjust to what is really happening. At any rate, the defense as a whole was questionable coming in to the season, and that remains.

Then there is the puzzling playcalling on offense that seems hellbent on having Grosel do things he is incapable of doing, like reliably delivering the football longer than 10 yards downfield, the persistent use if Flowers as a decoy, etc...Hafley clearly has abdicated the offense and he needs a more competent OC.

[eepstein0]

BC scored on its first drive of the game. And then mustered -2 points the rest of the way. I’d love for one of these “reporters” to ask Hafley what he plans to do in the future so that he never enters a season with 1 QB on the roster.

Just so I’m clear, in Year 2 coming off a pandemic, what was the recruiting pitch to get a decent backup to BC?

Also, with the transfer portal, very few teams have good backups. Those guys likely transferred somewhere to be starters

[eepstein0]

I didn’t watch yesterday so can’t comment there, but Hafley’s team commit a ton of penalties and just flat out dumb mental mistakes. If you want to criticize him fairly it’s this.

[eagle33]

I didn’t watch yesterday so can’t comment there, but Hafley’s team commit a ton of penalties and just flat out dumb mental mistakes. If you want to criticize him fairly it’s this.

this, plus hafley was outcoached. two weeks to get ready, playing at home, but we looked like shit. i bet hafley didn't mention god either.

[twballgame9]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

[hansen]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

[hansen]

Its easy to obsess about a QB all knew was D3 capable. I'm more alarmed at things like a defensive secondary that allegedly was supposed to be so good. Admittedly, I went to bed after they scored their 31st point, but what I saw before that was NC St. adjust in second half with short crossing routes and delayed dumps over the middle without a defensive player in sight that went regularly for 10+ yards. Initially you can blame LBs, but on this defense they are committed to bolstering against the weaknesses of the DL. A t some point the DBs have to adjust to what is really happening. At any rate, the defense as a whole was questionable coming in to the season, and that remains.

Then there is the puzzling playcalling on offense that seems hellbent on having Grosel do things he is incapable of doing, like reliably delivering the football longer than 10 yards downfield, the persistent use if Flowers as a decoy, etc...Hafley clearly has abdicated the offense and he needs a more competent OC.

I would argue 20-30 yards but yes.

[eagletx]

Bottom line,this is a flawed team, whose margin for error is very thin. Yesterday was a perfect example, where two turnovers and a botched officiating call and a flukey TD reception gave opponent 24 points in what was a very tight game up to that point.

The offensive effeciency/ capability dropped significantly once Jurkevic went down. They needed that added efficiency to make up for the anticipated defensive deficiencies.

Picks, fumbles, stupid penalties are simply things that this team, in its current make up cannot overcome.

[HJS]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

NCS adjusted after the first series… not halftime. All the “hey, why don’t we run…” is asinine. You have a QB who can not throw a football. The only realistic critique is whether the team would be better with Travis Levy at QB in a permanent Wildcat.

As for the “what’s the sales pitch” from microdick… it is literally doing anything more than what they’ve been doing. The strategy of ignoring the position and hoping that glass doesn’t break simply isn’t working. No other Power 5 program loses a QB and then their “fans” (who Costco’d the game) shrug and ask “whelp what’s a girl to do?”

[twballgame9]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

They had a plan. Throw over the top. It was executed poorly.

[Corporal Funishment]

The line can't block, the receivers can't catch, the team commits penalties at an astounding rate...but the problem is the quarterback - because he wears a hairband.

[twballgame9]

The line blocks fine and the receivers all caught fine for the other guy. The defense stinks. Run with that as your excuse for Grosel.

[EagleNYC]

The lack of any consistent (he’ll, even inconsistent) pressure on opposing QBs is getting old fast. No, we don’t feature NFL talent on the line. But you can scheme your way into pressure with what we have.

[Eagle1999]

The lack of any consistent (he’ll, even inconsistent) pressure on opposing QBs is getting old fast. No, we don’t feature NFL talent on the line. But you can scheme your way into pressure with what we have.

Yeah. No. We saw this on the opening TD drive. We went cover 1 and locked up man. You want to scheme pressure that means man coverage. You saw the result. Their receiver caught the touchdown. Our guy is still wondering what the fuck happened. Having a front 4 that can’t get any pressure really hurts.

[claver2010]

The line blocks fine and the receivers all caught fine for the other guy. The defense stinks. Run with that as your excuse for Grosel.

eh the defense is young. not hitting the portal for a pass rusher + losing your best DL from an already thin group isn't helping

[eagle33]

The line can't block, the receivers can't catch, the team commits penalties at an astounding rate...but the problem is the quarterback - because he wears a hairband.

the hairband is a distraction to the rest of the team. and teddy.

[claver2010]

also jurk's cast is off, no clue what that means

[eagle33]

penalties per game so far.

colgate 2-22
umass 11-99
temple 3-30
mizzou 3-30
clemson 10-60
rcc 9-85

[twballgame9]

The lack of any consistent (he’ll, even inconsistent) pressure on opposing QBs is getting old fast. No, we don’t feature NFL talent on the line. But you can scheme your way into pressure with what we have.

Yeah. No. We saw this on the opening TD drive. We went cover 1 and locked up man. You want to scheme pressure that means man coverage. You saw the result. Their receiver caught the touchdown. Our guy is still wondering what the fuck happened. Having a front 4 that can’t get any pressure really hurts.

They should be playing man. A fluke catch on tight coverage doesn't prove otherwise. They tore up zone.

[Eagle1999]

The lack of any consistent (he’ll, even inconsistent) pressure on opposing QBs is getting old fast. No, we don’t feature NFL talent on the line. But you can scheme your way into pressure with what we have.

Yeah. No. We saw this on the opening TD drive. We went cover 1 and locked up man. You want to scheme pressure that means man coverage. You saw the result. Their receiver caught the touchdown. Our guy is still wondering what the fuck happened. Having a front 4 that can’t get any pressure really hurts.[/quot

They should be playing man. A fluke catch on tight coverage doesn't prove otherwise. They tore up zone.

You must miss Donnie Brown. You play man if you can get pressure and/or have better athletes. That wasn’t the case last night. This group can’t get pressure on the quarterback. Playing zone forces the offense to at least take longer going down the field and hopefully they make a mistake. NC State has better athletes. Shit, even their version of Don Beebe torched us.

[hansen]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

They had a plan. Throw over the top. It was executed poorly.

Everyone here who’s not a shtick poster admits that Grosel cannot reliably throw over the top. Why make that the game plan then? Putting players in a position to fail is Daz-esque. Need a better game plan.

[eagle33]

all the recruits that were there must be impressed.

[twballgame9]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

They had a plan. Throw over the top. It was executed poorly.

Everyone here who’s not a shtick poster admits that Grosel cannot reliably throw over the top. Why make that the game plan then? Putting players in a position to fail is Daz-esque. Need a better game plan.

If they had someone that could throw it over the top they wouldn't have had to. It was the only game plan for that defense. He had to execute or the D had to be great. If he couldn't complete the wide open passes down field they weren't scoring. He didn't.

[hansen]

Not sure what you expected the playcalling to be. After the first few series there were 9 in the box. They had to throw downfield it was what was open.

NC State made second half adjustments; Bc didn’t.

I thought our first half game plan was good. Slants, get Zay touches on short throws allowing him to make plays, try to establish the run. Second half was a shitshow where we kept thing to run Garwo into a wall of Nc State defenders followed by letting Sinkfield try to get yardage doing the same. It was clear to me that Once they took away the run, we had no plan on how to move the ball.

They had a plan. Throw over the top. It was executed poorly.

Everyone here who’s not a shtick poster admits that Grosel cannot reliably throw over the top. Why make that the game plan then? Putting players in a position to fail is Daz-esque. Need a better game plan.

If they had someone that could throw it over the top they wouldn't have had to. It was the only game plan for that defense. He had to execute or the D had to be great. If he couldn't complete the wide open passes down field they weren't scoring. He didn't.

Would have liked to see them go to 10 personnel and spread the WRs as opposed to those bunch formations. Pretty sure I saw them do that when Jurkovec was QB with Levy or Gill lined up in the slot. Complete some short throws to open the box. Then go hurry up and line up in 11 and go back to running the ball if we can get some first downs. Or Literally anything other than what we were trying to do second half because Grosel throwing a deep ball is hard to watch. I mean how much are they gonna watch him fail at it before they realize it’s just not in his arsenal.

[hansen]