2021 BC Football

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

it's a pretty bold statement, cotton - let's see how it works out for him

[angrychicken]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

Yeah, but he asked for it to be timestamped, so it's a super duper, non-osteopenia, Alpha McStudly, grand assertion.

[Corporal Funishment]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

Yeah, but he asked for it to be timestamped, so it's a super duper, non-osteopenia, Alpha McStudly, grand assertion.

I haven't seen you make any predictions, yankee.

[angrychicken]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

Yeah, but he asked for it to be timestamped, so it's a super duper, non-osteopenia, Alpha McStudly, grand assertion.

I haven't seen you make any predictions, yankee.

Cincinnati will lose a game and will not make the playoffs. Timestamp.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

Yeah, but he asked for it to be timestamped, so it's a super duper, non-osteopenia, Alpha McStudly, grand assertion.

I haven't seen you make any predictions, yankee.

Cincinnati will lose a game and will not make the playoffs. Timestamp.

that's actually a pretty bold timestamp considering their remaining schedule

navy
tulane
tulsa
usf
smu
ecu

i mean, maybe a ranked smu team, but their ranking is inflated for wins against north texas and abilene christian. i am timestamping that cincinnati will not lost in the regular season and will get raped like a notre dame team in the playoffs

[innocentbystander]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

First college football poll comes out in two weeks. That is the only poll that matters. No one knows for sure where they will have Cincinnati.

[innocentbystander]

so your grand assertion is that if the #2 team in the country doesn't lose they'll end the regular season in the top 4?

Yeah, but he asked for it to be timestamped, so it's a super duper, non-osteopenia, Alpha McStudly, grand assertion.

I haven't seen you make any predictions, yankee.

Cincinnati will lose a game and will not make the playoffs. Timestamp.

We'll see.

[innocentbystander]

First playoff poll comes out in two weeks. Cincinnati is already looking ahead to the only game they have left on their schedule, SMU.

The only reason why the Group-of-five ever agreed to the terms in the contract for the college football playoff was that they were under the impression that somehow, someday, it would be mathematically possible for one of their teams to make the top 4 in the final playoff poll. Assume for one moment that Cincinnati runs the table. If this year ISN'T the year for a Group-of-five team to make the playoffs, then no year is. Obviously, if the Bearcats lose, all bets are off. But they aren't going to lose. If they don't lose, who could be in top 4 if they are NOT there?

Michigan/Michigan State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Oklahoma/OK State

That is still mathematically possible. Those will be the top four teams in the first CFP poll in two weeks if they are still undefeated. And if none of these teams lose a game before New Years Eve, then those WILL be the 4 teams in the top 4 slots in the final College Football Playoff poll. And Cincinnati sucks a lemon. Its possible, but highly unlikely.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

First playoff poll comes out in two weeks. Cincinnati is already looking ahead to the only game they have left on their schedule, SMU.

The only reason why the Group-of-five ever agreed to the terms in the contract for the college football playoff was that they were under the impression that somehow, someday, it would be mathematically possible for one of their teams to make the top 4 in the final playoff poll. Assume for one moment that Cincinnati runs the table. If this year ISN'T the year for a Group-of-five team to make the playoffs, then no year is. Obviously, if the Bearcats lose, all bets are off. But they aren't going to lose. If they don't lose, who could be in top 4 if they are NOT there?

Michigan/Michigan State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Oklahoma/OK State

That is still mathematically possible. Those will be the top four teams in the first CFP poll in two weeks if they are still undefeated. And if none of these teams lose a game before New Years Eve, then those WILL be the 4 teams in the top 4 slots in the final College Football Playoff poll. And Cincinnati sucks a lemon. Its possible, but highly unlikely.

[innocentbystander]

First playoff poll comes out in two weeks. Cincinnati is already looking ahead to the only game they have left on their schedule, SMU.

The only reason why the Group-of-five ever agreed to the terms in the contract for the college football playoff was that they were under the impression that somehow, someday, it would be mathematically possible for one of their teams to make the top 4 in the final playoff poll. Assume for one moment that Cincinnati runs the table. If this year ISN'T the year for a Group-of-five team to make the playoffs, then no year is. Obviously, if the Bearcats lose, all bets are off. But they aren't going to lose. If they don't lose, who could be in top 4 if they are NOT there?

Michigan/Michigan State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Oklahoma/OK State

That is still mathematically possible. Those will be the top four teams in the first CFP poll in two weeks if they are still undefeated. And if none of these teams lose a game before New Years Eve, then those WILL be the 4 teams in the top 4 slots in the final College Football Playoff poll. And Cincinnati sucks a lemon. Its possible, but highly unlikely.

No.

Look, there is the slightest mathematical possibility that 4 of the 5 power-five conferences have an undefeated champion. In that one instance, Cincinnati is locked out of the playoffs. (They are not going to have Wake Forest at 8-0 ranked lower than Cincinnati at 8-0 in the first CFP. poll) There is no way an undefeated power-five team misses the playoffs. But I don't think it will matter because Wake is not going to run the table. Neither will Georgia.

As I said earlier today, one way or another Cincinnati is making these playoffs tre.

[hansen]

First playoff poll comes out in two weeks. Cincinnati is already looking ahead to the only game they have left on their schedule, SMU.

The only reason why the Group-of-five ever agreed to the terms in the contract for the college football playoff was that they were under the impression that somehow, someday, it would be mathematically possible for one of their teams to make the top 4 in the final playoff poll. Assume for one moment that Cincinnati runs the table. If this year ISN'T the year for a Group-of-five team to make the playoffs, then no year is. Obviously, if the Bearcats lose, all bets are off. But they aren't going to lose. If they don't lose, who could be in top 4 if they are NOT there?

Michigan/Michigan State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Oklahoma/OK State

That is still mathematically possible. Those will be the top four teams in the first CFP poll in two weeks if they are still undefeated. And if none of these teams lose a game before New Years Eve, then those WILL be the 4 teams in the top 4 slots in the final College Football Playoff poll. And Cincinnati sucks a lemon. Its possible, but highly unlikely.

Wow, Clippy's savage AF

[twballgame9]

First playoff poll comes out in two weeks. Cincinnati is already looking ahead to the only game they have left on their schedule, SMU.

The only reason why the Group-of-five ever agreed to the terms in the contract for the college football playoff was that they were under the impression that somehow, someday, it would be mathematically possible for one of their teams to make the top 4 in the final playoff poll. Assume for one moment that Cincinnati runs the table. If this year ISN'T the year for a Group-of-five team to make the playoffs, then no year is. Obviously, if the Bearcats lose, all bets are off. But they aren't going to lose. If they don't lose, who could be in top 4 if they are NOT there?

Michigan/Michigan State
Wake Forest
Georgia
Oklahoma/OK State

That is still mathematically possible. Those will be the top four teams in the first CFP poll in two weeks if they are still undefeated. And if none of these teams lose a game before New Years Eve, then those WILL be the 4 teams in the top 4 slots in the final College Football Playoff poll. And Cincinnati sucks a lemon. Its possible, but highly unlikely.

Wow, Clippy's savage AF

Faint praise for Clippy.

[Dick Rosenthal]

In other news, Tommy Sweeney just burned Harold Landry for his first NFL TD. In fairness to Landry , he had no chance from the position he was lined up, and he has been giving Buffalo’s O-Line fits all night. I guess it is nice to see competency associated with BC.

[claver2010]

landry is going to get paid this offseason

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

landry is going to get paid this offseason

he received many verbal mouth hugs last night

[innocentbystander]

landry is going to get paid this offseason

he received many verbal mouth hugs last night

Calling it now.

Pitt is playing Wake Forest in the ACC Championship. They do not play each other before the game. And there will be very few people at that game.

[claver2010]

asbury broken arm, done for year

burton has played in 3 games, none since temple

[hansen]

asbury broken arm, done for year

burton has played in 3 games, none since temple

BC has him listed as playing in 5

[DomingoOrtiz]

asbury broken arm, done for year

burton has played in 3 games, none since temple

He has played 3rd most of the FRs

[Corporal Funishment]

You can't ban the truth

[durkcal]

I think the deal with Hafley is that he vowed to be a positive guy. Which is what has always worked for him. Will help in recruiting, and retaining talent in the program. If he has vowed to go to battle with a guy, he would view it as a knee jerk decision to quickly turn about and go in another direction on flimsy evidence that results will be better. It's exactly the kind of move that he's probably witnessed as an assistant, and watched firsthand as the respect throughout the program evaporated. He's probably thinking that parents and players are watching how he handles this very carefully. Not saying sticking with Grosel is the right move, but I think it is who Hafley is. And it's not because he's older, or more experienced. It's because he made the commitment to him.

I do believe that Hafley makes the tough decisions in the offseason. And therefore, the fact that our offensive coaches are getting outcoached the last two weeks so badly, that is possibly going to show up in the offseason. As we all know, Clemson and Vrenables showed a way to shut down BC/Grosel. NC state and Louisville doubled and tripled down on it, and it worked out for them. Syracuse is clearly coming out with the same plan A. Of course, if we somehow some way complete two deep passes to Zay or another WR in the 1H, and get points on the back of it, this will change everything. I'm personally not guessing that happens. Even if we get it right in this game, the offensive woes will probably return in the following weeks. BC doesn't appear to be headed for 7 or 8 wins. And therefore Cignetti (maybe Gunnell and Dailey too) may be gone in the offseason. It's complicated because of the Jurk/Cignetti relationship. But Cignetti is showing Hafley that he isn't able to adjust and come up with fixes against the same game plan, when all that happened is he lost one player, and has NFL talent amongst the rest of the offense. Not impressive! Hafley is going to be here for longer than some feared, and he needs an OC that can adjust to tougher circumstances than this.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

so what you are saying is that just past the halfway mark of the season, we need to write this season off because no adjustments can be made? we just need to trust the staff to fire the staff that can't be trusted after they show they can't be trusted to earn our trust.

i still think that stinks and look forward to mo'j talking about mr glass and how no qb would possibly come here until not only jurk has moved on to the nfl, but also until his legacy has cleared and bc is no longer considered "jurk college" like those that had to follow flutie and ryan and even foley to some extent.

[MF73-Eleazar]

Seems like there's a gameplan to win vs SYR with Grosel under center away at the Carrier Dome.

It's just that the starting tailback isn't AJ Dillon this time around.

[twballgame9]

I think the deal with Hafley is that he vowed to be a positive guy. Which is what has always worked for him. Will help in recruiting, and retaining talent in the program. If he has vowed to go to battle with a guy, he would view it as a knee jerk decision to quickly turn about and go in another direction on flimsy evidence that results will be better. It's exactly the kind of move that he's probably witnessed as an assistant, and watched firsthand as the respect throughout the program evaporated. He's probably thinking that parents and players are watching how he handles this very carefully. Not saying sticking with Grosel is the right move, but I think it is who Hafley is. And it's not because he's older, or more experienced. It's because he made the commitment to him.

I do believe that Hafley makes the tough decisions in the offseason. And therefore, the fact that our offensive coaches are getting outcoached the last two weeks so badly, that is possibly going to show up in the offseason. As we all know, Clemson and Vrenables showed a way to shut down BC/Grosel. NC state and Louisville doubled and tripled down on it, and it worked out for them. Syracuse is clearly coming out with the same plan A. Of course, if we somehow some way complete two deep passes to Zay or another WR in the 1H, and get points on the back of it, this will change everything. I'm personally not guessing that happens. Even if we get it right in this game, the offensive woes will probably return in the following weeks. BC doesn't appear to be headed for 7 or 8 wins. And therefore Cignetti (maybe Gunnell and Dailey too) may be gone in the offseason. It's complicated because of the Jurk/Cignetti relationship. But Cignetti is showing Hafley that he isn't able to adjust and come up with fixes against the same game plan, when all that happened is he lost one player, and has NFL talent amongst the rest of the offense. Not impressive! Hafley is going to be here for longer than some feared, and he needs an OC that can adjust to tougher circumstances than this.

This is an absurd take. Cignetti came out against Clemson with the precise game plan to beat what they were doing. It was executed like shit. Not sure what you think he can call to fix having a DIII spread option QB.

[claver2010]

when your qb cannot complete a pass beyond 10 yards it sort of limits what you can do as an offense

[OCs_Inner_Eagle]

when your qb cannot complete a pass beyond 10 yards it sort of limits what you can do as an offense

That's right. Grosel needed to hit at least a couple of those open bombs, and he didn't do it. Louisville was the abyss, a vulnerable defense that put 9 on the LoS and dared BC to beat them over the top.

I was a huge optimist this season before Jurkovec was hurt, and still had hoped Grosel could manage through the thin margin of error to give Jurkovec reason to come back in November. Obviously that hasn't worked out; HJS and others were right about Grosel's limitations being so damaging.

I don't go on BCInterruption much but saw this guy "BC Eaglekeeper" claiming Menard and Morehead are taking the first-team snaps in practice this week. Was he one of the EA Merrymen? He almost sounds like BC PR, but if in fact he's plugged in and reliable on facts then maybe it will be one/both of these two. Maybe a downfield package for Morehead and Menard otherwise? Who knows?

I heard that Menard and Moorehead got all of the 1st team reps at practice today. If Hafley was sticking with Grosel he would have said so. He has only decided to make a change at this point. Who it will be depends on how they preform in practice this week.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

if it's the same eaglekeeper that posts here - he's the one that demanded we fill in the corners to grow the number of empty seat in the stadium and suggested we add holograph machines to make the atmosphere more cool.

he may be connected to the program but i believe him to be a young person and therefore not a merryman

[HJS]

I assume that is Corners... which means that if it correct, it is just in a broken clock sorta way.

[Shoreagle]

i still think that stinks and look forward to mo'j talking about mr glass and how no qb would possibly come here until not only jurk has moved on to the nfl, but also until his legacy has cleared and bc is no longer considered "jurk college" like those that had to follow flutie and ryan and even foley to some extent.

Glenn Foley was a better college quarterback than Matt Ryan. There, I said it.

[HJS]

I think the deal with Hafley is that he vowed to be a positive guy. Which is what has always worked for him. Will help in recruiting, and retaining talent in the program. If he has vowed to go to battle with a guy, he would view it as a knee jerk decision to quickly turn about and go in another direction on flimsy evidence that results will be better. It's exactly the kind of move that he's probably witnessed as an assistant, and watched firsthand as the respect throughout the program evaporated. He's probably thinking that parents and players are watching how he handles this very carefully. Not saying sticking with Grosel is the right move, but I think it is who Hafley is. And it's not because he's older, or more experienced. It's because he made the commitment to him.

I do believe that Hafley makes the tough decisions in the offseason. And therefore, the fact that our offensive coaches are getting outcoached the last two weeks so badly, that is possibly going to show up in the offseason. As we all know, Clemson and Vrenables showed a way to shut down BC/Grosel. NC state and Louisville doubled and tripled down on it, and it worked out for them. Syracuse is clearly coming out with the same plan A. Of course, if we somehow some way complete two deep passes to Zay or another WR in the 1H, and get points on the back of it, this will change everything. I'm personally not guessing that happens. Even if we get it right in this game, the offensive woes will probably return in the following weeks. BC doesn't appear to be headed for 7 or 8 wins. And therefore Cignetti (maybe Gunnell and Dailey too) may be gone in the offseason. It's complicated because of the Jurk/Cignetti relationship. But Cignetti is showing Hafley that he isn't able to adjust and come up with fixes against the same game plan, when all that happened is he lost one player, and has NFL talent amongst the rest of the offense. Not impressive! Hafley is going to be here for longer than some feared, and he needs an OC that can adjust to tougher circumstances than this.

This is an absurd take. Cignetti came out against Clemson with the precise game plan to beat what they were doing. It was executed like shit. Not sure what you think he can call to fix having a DIII spread option QB.

This team is 0-3. That is a failure. Hafley is a first time head coach and the staff (outside Cignetti) are largely young and it is their first times in their roles. Mistakes will happen. What they learn from this mess is what matters.

The question is what is the actually failure that they should learn from. Was it not properly planning and developing depth at a crucial position that starts an injury-prone player? Was it waiting too long to move on from a starter that clearly wasn't performing? Was it failing to realize that a young player was more than capable? Was it not recreating a scheme to hide a players obvious deficiencies? Was it not buying enough bubble wrap for the starting QB? Or was it, as mircro would suggest, agreeing to take the transfer of a player so talented that he obliterates all attempts to find his replacement for a Chernobyl-like period?

Pretending that there isn't a problem or pretending that there was nothing they could do is about the only ways you could make this season worse.