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Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 11:55 amby HJS
If you get an athletic director who is more deliberate in his thinking, I think the right thing to do is create a new BB facility that serves both as a practice facility and a gameday venue. This will allow Conte be only for hockey. Footprint would not be huge and it could be located in a number of spaces on lower campus (I'm thinking something like Alumni Hall at SJU).
Jarmond initially proposed an arena for hockey on Brighton (which would free up the ability to do a fullscale Conte renovation to make it BB only). Probably because the renovation would be cost-prohibitive, he then pivoted to give hockey Conte and create an arena for BB. When he didn't immediately get the money (with little effort or design schematics), he pivoted again to do a BB practice facility. If I recall correctly, he wanted to weirdly stick it in between Conte and Higgins stairs. In my opinion, building a bandbox like BB arena kills 2 birds: crappy home atmosphere and designated practice facility. You're also going to get more money for a building that will be on TV than one that only 10 students a year will be entering.
The idea that they would bus revenue sport players to an offsite practice facility is idiotic. Will never happen. Stop talking about it.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:20 pmby hansen
HJS {l Wrote}:If you get an athletic director who is more deliberate in his thinking, I think the right thing to do is create a new BB facility that serves both as a practice facility and a gameday venue. This will allow Conte be only for hockey. Footprint would not be huge and it could be located in a number of spaces on lower campus (I'm thinking something like Alumni Hall at SJU).
Jarmond initially proposed an arena for hockey on Brighton (which would free up the ability to do a fullscale Conte renovation to make it BB only). Probably because the renovation would be cost-prohibitive, he then pivoted to give hockey Conte and create an arena for BB. When he didn't immediately get the money (with little effort or design schematics), he pivoted again to do a BB practice facility. If I recall correctly, he wanted to weirdly stick it in between Conte and Higgins stairs. In my opinion, building a bandbox like BB arena kills 2 birds: crappy home atmosphere and designated practice facility. You're also going to get more money for a building that will be on TV than one that only 10 students a year will be entering.
The idea that they would bus revenue sport players to an offsite practice facility is idiotic. Will never happen. Stop talking about it.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:33 pmby eepstein0
HJS {l Wrote}:If you get an athletic director who is more deliberate in his thinking, I think the right thing to do is create a new BB facility that serves both as a practice facility and a gameday venue. This will allow Conte be only for hockey. Footprint would not be huge and it could be located in a number of spaces on lower campus (I'm thinking something like Alumni Hall at SJU).
Jarmond initially proposed an arena for hockey on Brighton (which would free up the ability to do a fullscale Conte renovation to make it BB only). Probably because the renovation would be cost-prohibitive, he then pivoted to give hockey Conte and create an arena for BB. When he didn't immediately get the money (with little effort or design schematics), he pivoted again to do a BB practice facility. If I recall correctly, he wanted to weirdly stick it in between Conte and Higgins stairs. In my opinion, building a bandbox like BB arena kills 2 birds: crappy home atmosphere and designated practice facility. You're also going to get more money for a building that will be on TV than one that only 10 students a year will be entering.
The idea that they would bus revenue sport players to an offsite practice facility is idiotic. Will never happen. Stop talking about it.
The above is pretty accurate per my understanding.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:34 pmby MF73-Eleazar
Nova's Pavillion is impressive. I'm jealous.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:36 pmby claver2010
i don't know what derailed moving hockey down to brighton, the presumption (and it was accurate imo) was it would be a lot easier to raise the money for a hockey facility than a basketball one.
correct on the location for the basketball facility. they did a feasibility study and it would cost more than the fieldhouse. not exactly easy to raise money w jc entering year whatever at the helm
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:45 pmby BCMurt09
HJS {l Wrote}:The idea that they would bus revenue sport players to an offsite practice facility is idiotic. Will never happen. Stop talking about it.
In your mind how do players at other schools get to their practice facilities that are on the other side of campus?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 1:01 pmby MilitantEagle
HJS {l Wrote}:If you get an athletic director who is more deliberate in his thinking, I think the right thing to do is create a new BB facility that serves both as a practice facility and a gameday venue. This will allow Conte be only for hockey. Footprint would not be huge and it could be located in a number of spaces on lower campus (I'm thinking something like Alumni Hall at SJU).
Jarmond initially proposed an arena for hockey on Brighton (which would free up the ability to do a fullscale Conte renovation to make it BB only). Probably because the renovation would be cost-prohibitive, he then pivoted to give hockey Conte and create an arena for BB. When he didn't immediately get the money (with little effort or design schematics), he pivoted again to do a BB practice facility. If I recall correctly, he wanted to weirdly stick it in between Conte and Higgins stairs. In my opinion, building a bandbox like BB arena kills 2 birds: crappy home atmosphere and designated practice facility. You're also going to get more money for a building that will be on TV than one that only 10 students a year will be entering.
The idea that they would bus revenue sport players to an offsite practice facility is idiotic. Will never happen. Stop talking about it.
I like the idea, it would just seem odd for a school the size of BC to have separate bball/hockey arenas when even pro teams share arenas. As for the bandbox, would BC go much lower than 8600? Unless it's the size of a high school gym, there are still going to be plenty of empty seats for those 9pm games on a Tuesday night.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 1:32 pmby MF73-Eleazar
and in this new BB arena, the primary student section should be near the court. iirc, Michigan's student section is opposite the TV camera/player benches.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:02 pmby TobaccoRoadEagle
MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:Nova's Pavillion is impressive. I'm jealous.
we just need to find a gay wrestling coach to kill some people and then donate money to bc so we can build it.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:20 pmby MilitantEagle
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:Nova's Pavillion is impressive. I'm jealous.
we just need to find a gay wrestling coach to kill some people and then donate money to bc so we can build it.
TRE, just curious, were you the one who removed the EdwardAronson post?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:26 pmby TobaccoRoadEagle
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:Nova's Pavillion is impressive. I'm jealous.
we just need to find a gay wrestling coach to kill some people and then donate money to bc so we can build it.
TRE, just curious, were you the one who removed the EdwardAronson post?
it wasn't me. i did not see a post from edward aronson but i was under the belief that username was banned.
what did the post say?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:40 pmby claver2010
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Mon May 18, 2020 9:09 pmby Eaglekeeper
It was cost prohibitive to build either a hockey or b-ball arena. I believe that BC will be moving volleyball to PMI. Power Gym will be for basketball only. It can be expanded and become a first class practice facility in the best location. There is plenty of room on the north side of Conte to expand.
Go Eagles!
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:54 amby BC923
https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1 ... 77543?s=21 Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:56 amby BC923
Putting the ticketing guy in charge does suggest that we will move quickly and have it wrapped up before the AD has to do much else.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:57 amby eepstein0
BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:59 amby BC923
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Yeah that’s not great. Anyone remember the search firm from the Jarmond search?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:19 amby HJS
Hate the search firm. Putting Caparro as interim means that he isn't in the running. If it was Vaughn, it would signal a long process.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:26 amby ATLeagle
Caparro will not get the job. Probably a good sign that they didn't go with a more obvious internal candidate.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:29 amby Tom Dooder
BC923 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Yeah that’s not great. Anyone remember the search firm from the Jarmond search?
Parker Executive. Very well known in higher education and has a great reputation.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:42 amby StratEagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Gross. Are there any candidates from the MAC we should be aware of?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:51 amby hansen
Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Yeah that’s not great. Anyone remember the search firm from the Jarmond search?
Parker Executive. Very well known in higher education and has a great reputation.
why not hire the same search firm this time?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 10:52 amby DomingoOrtiz
StratEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Gross. Are there any candidates from the MAC we should be aware of?
Isn't Coach Flip also in this business?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 11:02 amby HJS
Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Yeah that’s not great. Anyone remember the search firm from the Jarmond search?
Parker Executive. Very well known in higher education and has a great reputation.
Do people even remember the shitshow of the previous search? It was an effing mess that came up with a decent result because Fr. Bill wanted a minority hire. Now... Leahy’s laser-focused on ticking the next box. We will be hiring a female AD. Mark it down. I hear there are a bunch of strong candidates. However, the most accomplished names are the wrong sex and race.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 11:03 amby Eagle1999
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:StratEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/1263120038694977543?s=21
Sources: BC is naming senior associate athletic director JM Caparro as the interim AD. School has already begun to engage outside candidates via Todd Turner/Collegiate Sports Associates. Search expected to move quickly.
Help me out here. BC hires a search firm that employees Brad Bates to do a search?
Gross. Are there any candidates from the MAC we should be aware of?
Isn't Coach Flip also in this business?
Yes. Turnkey.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 11:20 amby DomingoOrtiz
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Caparro will not get the job. Probably a good sign that they didn't go with a more obvious internal candidate.
Regarding Matt Hass, why do you "think the politics of this process will kill his candidacy."?
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 11:30 amby HJS
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Caparro will not get the job. Probably a good sign that they didn't go with a more obvious internal candidate.
Regarding Matt Hass, why do you "think the politics of this process will kill his candidacy."?
See my post about Leahy not hiring a white male.
Danny White, Mark Jackson, Ed McLaughlin, Matt Hasselbeck, Graham Neff... all would be interested. None will be chosen for reasons they were born with.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 11:37 amby ATLeagle
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Caparro will not get the job. Probably a good sign that they didn't go with a more obvious internal candidate.
Regarding Matt Hass, why do you "think the politics of this process will kill his candidacy."?
He doesn't check any of Leahy's boxes. He has no experience. He has enough of a name and connections that he wouldn't have to kiss the ring all the time.
I like Matt and the idea. I think he has the right mix of smarts, work ethic and respect for BC. I also think helping out Jarmond shows that he gets it and cares about BC. I just don't think Leahy will reward him now.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 1:48 pmby innocentbystander
HJS {l Wrote}:DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Caparro will not get the job. Probably a good sign that they didn't go with a more obvious internal candidate.
Regarding Matt Hass, why do you "think the politics of this process will kill his candidacy."?
See my post about Leahy not hiring a white male.
So I guess Fred Smerlas and Bob Sweeney are out.
Re: 2020 Athletic Director Candidates Thread
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Wed May 20, 2020 2:54 pmby TobaccoRoadEagle
bill romanowski
gene defilippo
margie from lower
paul grant
rick kuhn
bill leahy
seymore skinner (nee armin tamzatian)