EagleOutsider.com

31southst {l Wrote}:I assume not for a while but does anyone know how quickly the waiver question will be resolved one way or another?

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

eagle33 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Btw... if we land him, I think credit goes directly to Cignetti.

not bad for a 3rd choice oc who's only been on the job for a week.

I shit on the hire because I thought it was boring and safe. But, I’m pointing this out because it’s only fair to give him credit if he lands a monster QB.

Is Ian Book's backup really a "monster QB"?

Yes. Look at Brian Kelly’s record of QB development. Jurkovec was the #4 QB in the country out of high school. He might have been higher, but he shut his recruiting down his sophomore year of HS and didn’t do any of the road shows like The Opening and the like.

As I said, and this comes from a very highly placed and source, Kelly prefers system QBs and has never done well with talent. There is a reason that Tommy Rees and Ian Book are the only guys who will have played 3 years under Kelly. Kiel left after a semester. Kizer regressed badly from year 1 to year 2 when Kelly made him stick in “his system” after letting him freelance his first year out of necessity because he didn’t know the playbook. And even if they were busts, take a look at Zaire and Wimbush’s first few starts versus after Kelly “installed” his offense in their brains and started going all purple face on them when they utilized their athleticism to make plays.

Go read the ND message boards and beat writers. Even the Kelly apologists are upset by this development. People close to the program are similarly angry. I watched him in spring ball and he was fantastic. His fall camp was allegedly not good, but know one knows and Kelly isn’t above throwing kids under the bus to justify putting his man-crush in the QB position (See Everett Golson v Tommy Rees), (Dayne Crist v Tommy Rees). I will also say that Jurkovec made one of the most impressive throws I have ever seen in what was mop up duty against UVA. Got drilled in the chest as he was throwing and still delivered a pinpoint accurate 40 yard rope across the field. Hope I will see more of it going forward (without him getting drilled).

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Irish writers saying he didn’t get along with Rees

https://www.si.com/college/bostoncolleg ... notre-dame

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:ND insiders are spinning this as a recruit not being as good as expected and unwilling to stay and compete for a job. Not saying that’s accurate, but that’s what I’ve heard from 2 people close to ND program.

billyshelby {l Wrote}:Combing through the ND site, the waiver actually should be likely. Somebody posted a list of NCAA criteria and one is lack of competition ("no participation opportunity"). Kelly has publicly said he wants Book back. Any coach would say that, sure, but it's reasonable to infer that Book would remain the starter coming back for a 5th year. Additionally, Jurkovec having a girlfriend in Boston and a family that would have an easier time seeing his games should make it a slam dunk.

billyshelby {l Wrote}:Another interesting wrinkle is what this night mean about Cignetti. Aside from the PA connections which probably helped sell the kid, Cignetti did spend the last year in McCarthy's "think tank" which was purportedly to study "NFL trends." If you can peel away the cynicism about the think tank, there have been no hotter trends in the NFL QB/offense realm over the last two years than the RPO and the rise of the mobile QB. Cignetti already had a lot to sell Jurkovec on with his pro QB Coach experience, But the think tank also suggests he wants to coordinate an offense around the mobile QB that pros are looking at more seriously than ever. That's a good sign even if it takes Cignetti a while to figure it out in games

HJS {l Wrote}:

billyshelby {l Wrote}:Another interesting wrinkle is what this night mean about Cignetti. Aside from the PA connections which probably helped sell the kid, Cignetti did spend the last year in McCarthy's "think tank" which was purportedly to study "NFL trends." If you can peel away the cynicism about the think tank, there have been no hotter trends in the NFL QB/offense realm over the last two years than the RPO and the rise of the mobile QB. Cignetti already had a lot to sell Jurkovec on with his pro QB Coach experience, But the think tank also suggests he wants to coordinate an offense around the mobile QB that pros are looking at more seriously than ever. That's a good sign even if it takes Cignetti a while to figure it out in games

I believe Cignetti is related to Jurkovec.

HJS {l Wrote}:

billyshelby {l Wrote}:Another interesting wrinkle is what this night mean about Cignetti. Aside from the PA connections which probably helped sell the kid, Cignetti did spend the last year in McCarthy's "think tank" which was purportedly to study "NFL trends." If you can peel away the cynicism about the think tank, there have been no hotter trends in the NFL QB/offense realm over the last two years than the RPO and the rise of the mobile QB. Cignetti already had a lot to sell Jurkovec on with his pro QB Coach experience, But the think tank also suggests he wants to coordinate an offense around the mobile QB that pros are looking at more seriously than ever. That's a good sign even if it takes Cignetti a while to figure it out in games

I believe Cignetti is related to Jurkovec.

NJM89 {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/sj3_thefuture/status/1216113741948956673?s=21

hansen {l Wrote}:Coming out of high school, if he had committed here, then he would have been rated by 247 as our fourth best recruit ever behind Brian Toal, Justin Hinds, and Brandon Brokaw. An absolute massive get by Hafley.

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:Coming out of high school, if he had committed here, then he would have been rated by 247 as our fourth best recruit ever behind Brian Toal, Justin Hinds, and Brandon Brokaw. An absolute massive get by Hafley.

If he had committed to BC out of HS his rating would have been summarily reduced by each of the services, as we’ve seen before. Your point stands, however. Big get, and at the biggest position of need. We need that waiver to come through.

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:Coming out of high school, if he had committed here, then he would have been rated by 247 as our fourth best recruit ever behind Brian Toal, Justin Hinds, and Brandon Brokaw. An absolute massive get by Hafley.

If he had committed to BC out of HS his rating would have been summarily reduced by each of the services, as we’ve seen before. Your point stands, however. Big get, and at the biggest position of need. We need that waiver to come through.

https://twitter.com/ForBlogston/status/ ... 9793751040

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

Hansen, it's time for you to put that twitter account to use and become the Dooder-esque hero you so desperately want to be.

You know what you must do.

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

Hansen, it's time for you to put that twitter account to use and become the Dooder-esque hero you so desperately want to be.

You know what you must do.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:

EagleNYC {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:Coming out of high school, if he had committed here, then he would have been rated by 247 as our fourth best recruit ever behind Brian Toal, Justin Hinds, and Brandon Brokaw. An absolute massive get by Hafley.

If he had committed to BC out of HS his rating would have been summarily reduced by each of the services, as we’ve seen before. Your point stands, however. Big get, and at the biggest position of need. We need that waiver to come through.

https://twitter.com/ForBlogston/status/ ... 9793751040

While I have no information on the waiver whatsoever, I have more information than that sort of blogger.

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

Manny {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Patterson has the excuse of the Ole Miss program imploding. Fields pulled the race card by claiming some anonymous posters posted racist things on the inter web (some of which may have been planted by friends and family to facilitate the exit). Even the Tate Martell thing is different. There was a change at head coach at OSU from Urban to HCRD. That was the argument Martell used. Jurkovec can only argue that his OC has changed. Don’t think it’ll be a winner.

There was also the UGA baseball player who got expelled after calling him the N-word a bunch of times (published news) and the handful of said baseball player's teammates who harassed him for a while afterward (rumor from local people). But sure, make up some bullshit to make a 19-year-old look like the bad guy for wanting to play football somewhere else.