Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:The only way the season was ever going to happen was if people could come to peace with the fact that players will get the virus.
That has not happened, so no season.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:There is zero chance, given what Duke basketball has become, that Duke won’t join the Baby Rapists. My guess is that men’s football and basketball will cleave off from the NCAA entirely at a P5 level. The rest of sports will still be housed in the NCAA and greatly scaled back—with Title 9 no longer a factor with football and men’s basketball (the employee model takes it off the table), women’s sports are going away except to the extent necessary to maintain scholarship parity with the few men’s sports that are self funding (which is largely regional depending on the sport (BC/BU, Big Ten, UND, Denver, ASU, some Ivies for hockey; SEC, the old “Six PAC”, some ACC and a few rando southern baseball schools; Cuse, Hopkins, ND, a few ACC, a few Big 10, a few MAAC/CAA programs for lacrosse), a few Big 10, Big 12, Cornell and some rando small Pennsylvania and Ohio schools for wrestling).
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:I don’t think Northeastern schools break even ever with baseball. I am told the SEC, old Six Pac (Arizona, ASU, USC, UCLA, Cal and Stanford), a few rando Cali and Southern Schools (Long Beach, Fullerton, Fresno St, Tampa, USF) and some ACC schools (FSU, UNC, UVA, Louisville, ND) and some Big 10 schools (Michigan and tOSU) break even.
In hockey, you have BC, BU, Cornell, Northeastern, Providence, Harvard, Princeton (because the entire program has been endowed since the 40s), RPI, Maine and UNH break even or make some money. UVM used to be a money maker, but has fallen on hard times. Clarkson and St Lawrence have endowment money set aside for the programs, but do not turn a profit. Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Notre Dame and Minnesota are money makers—tOSU sometimes breaks even, but not always. North Dakota, Denver, UMD, St. Cloud, ASU, Northern Michigan, Miami (OH) and Lake Superior generally make money or break even. Michigan Tech used to make money, but does not anymore. Colorado College and the Alaska schools do well at the gate, but in CC’s case the rink isn’t big enough to turn a profit big enough to cover all costs and the Alaska teams get killed on travel despite having good gates. Air Force and Army do not make money, but would survive in a profit-driven environment because of the academies developmental missions.
The lacrosse model is interesting—Cuse, Hopkins, MD, Loyola, ND, Duke, UVA and a few others can make money off the gate and concessions, parking and merchandise. However, some of the smaller schools in the MAAC and CAA also make money, but in those instances it is accomplished by drawing players to attend the school. The average D1 lacrosse roster apparently has 48 players, but can only give out 12.6 scholarships per year. The result being that you end up drawing in a lot of kids who would not otherwise have attended you school but are now there and either paying full freight or as half or more of the schollies are diced up among multiple players, paying 70 or 80% of tuition. Three ADs in the MAAC have told me they started lacrosse as a varsity sport for this reason.
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:There is zero chance, given what Duke basketball has become, that Duke won’t join the Baby Rapists. My guess is that men’s football and basketball will cleave off from the NCAA entirely at a P5 level. The rest of sports will still be housed in the NCAA and greatly scaled back—with Title 9 no longer a factor with football and men’s basketball (the employee model takes it off the table), women’s sports are going away except to the extent necessary to maintain scholarship parity with the few men’s sports that are self funding (which is largely regional depending on the sport (BC/BU, Big Ten, UND, Denver, ASU, some Ivies for hockey; SEC, the old “Six PAC”, some ACC and a few rando southern baseball schools; Cuse, Hopkins, ND, a few ACC, a few Big 10, a few MAAC/CAA programs for lacrosse), a few Big 10, Big 12, Cornell and some rando small Pennsylvania and Ohio schools for wrestling).
hansen {l Wrote}:claver2010 {l Wrote}:mcmurphy says unsurprisingly acc will be doing the same (will facilitate ND into schedule, maybe the revenge of jurk?)
doesn't look good for college football this fall
Auerbach and Feldman saying ACC decision has not yet been made and talks of it being done are premature.
eagle33 {l Wrote}:this doesn't sound good.
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.html
NJM89 {l Wrote}:2020 roster is up. A lot of freshman walk ons with one being Robert Kraft’s grandson.
BC923 {l Wrote}:Per twitter, Jaelen Gill has been granted immediate eligibility should we play this year. Can’t imagine what the hang up with Jurk is
claver2010 {l Wrote}:seems like a really good kid that didn't fit day's offense and got stuck behind 5*s everywhere. between him, zay, & kobay we haven't had that level of talent at wr in a long time
StratEagle {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:Per twitter, Jaelen Gill has been granted immediate eligibility should we play this year. Can’t imagine what the hang up with Jurk is
Rumored that Ryan Day vouched for Gill's case, while Notre Dame did the complete opposite. No idea if true though.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a Grade A Douchenozzle, is anyone surprised. He's Harbaugh, except a bigger dick and 9 wins instead of 8.
BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a Grade A Douchenozzle, is anyone surprised. He's Harbaugh, except a bigger dick and 9 wins instead of 8.
I remember there was a brief time where I was disappointed BC didn't get rid of Spaz and go after Kelly...
hansen {l Wrote}:BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a Grade A Douchenozzle, is anyone surprised. He's Harbaugh, except a bigger dick and 9 wins instead of 8.
I remember there was a brief time where I was disappointed BC didn't get rid of Spaz and go after Kelly...
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BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Brian Kelly is a Grade A Douchenozzle, is anyone surprised. He's Harbaugh, except a bigger dick and 9 wins instead of 8.
I remember there was a brief time where I was disappointed BC didn't get rid of Spazand go after Kelly...
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:Phil Jurkovec's in a different situation. At the time of the transfer, it was clear his departure was related to his treatment at ND. It appears Kelly (and Tommy Rees) had elevated what was said to be the less talented QB, rather than focusing the offense on the skills of the more talented one.
ND was never going to cooperate in Jurkovec's transfer. Doing so undercuts ND's depth at QB. More importantly, Jurkovec's success will redound negatively on Kelly and Rees. That will be moreso the case if Jurkovec plays well THIS season and shows what Kelly (and Rees) could have done with the ND offense--if only they had been willing to change the scheme to suit their personnel.
Probably the best option for them is to wait and see if CFB gets canceled before they have to decide.
HJS on Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:22 am {l Wrote}:This won’t be in fashion as we wonder where on the Shinskie-Towles-Murphy spectrum Jurkovec falls...
High school accolades aside, Jurkovec sounds to me like a mentally broken player. He seemed to have been psychologically dismantled by the ND coaching staff (maybe to preserve Ian Book’s status as unquestioned starter). He has talked about losing a love for the game about how he wasn’t seeing the field about how he has a lot to learn. I understand folks will say that Kelly has a lot of blame here. That maybe true, but we are the ones to deal with the fall out.
For all of AB’s accuracy limitations, he was a very strong leader (smart, confidant and inspiring) whom his teammates loved. Over anything else, I think Jurkovec’s success here will be linked to whether he can step into that role. As the Spring starts, I will be looking for clues to see if the kid has regained his confidence. If he hasn’t, I hope he doesn’t get the waiver and takes the year to find his passion again.
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