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Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:05 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
ranked #24.
Great kickoff time anyway! :angrychicken

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:19 pm
by BC923
Their (worse) offense gave our (better) defense a lot of trouble last year. Our offense better be ready for a shootout

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:10 pm
by innocentbystander
BC923 {l Wrote}:Their (worse) offense gave our (better) defense a lot of trouble last year. Our offense better be ready for a shootout


I think BC needs 35+ points to win vs Wake Forest. I dont know if this team has enough gas in the tank for that kind of performance, not unless AJ Dillon gets 3 touchdowns all by himself. If the offense can't produce that much then the defense needs to recover at least 3 turnovers or BC will lose this game. And they might get punked the way they were by Kansas.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:40 pm
by twballgame9
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:Their (worse) offense gave our (better) defense a lot of trouble last year. Our offense better be ready for a shootout


I think BC needs 35+ points to win vs Wake Forest. I dont know if this team has enough gas in the tank for that kind of performance, not unless AJ Dillon gets 3 touchdowns all by himself. If the offense can't produce that much then the defense needs to recover at least 3 turnovers or BC will lose this game. And they might get punked the way they were by Kansas.


Don't think.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:16 pm
by hansen
I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:23 pm
by BC923
hansen {l Wrote}:I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Not sure any of the defensive staff members that developed players are still here. Allen always credited Pasqualoni, and now Campanile is gone. Sheridan is not all that impressive. Credit to Daz for making some good hires in the first place, but I don’t think he’s been as successful backfilling

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:17 pm
by innocentbystander
BC923 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Not sure any of the defensive staff members that developed players are still here. Allen always credited Pasqualoni, and now Campanile is gone. Sheridan is not all that impressive. Credit to Daz for making some good hires in the first place, but I don’t think he’s been as successful backfilling


It's not going to make any difference. You can't "develop" speed. I don't see these players (on defense) getting Wake Forest off the field. I would put the over/under at Wake Forest punts (for the game) at about, 2 and a half.

BC needs to get the ball, and keep the ball. They just need to squander every second of that game clock, spend a full 30 seconds on every play, and run the damn the ball. If you want to mix in some tight end dumps (passes that even AB can't miss) that's fine so long as they stay on the field and keep the game clock moving. That is asking a lot (particularly of this offensive line who seems to only be good at getting false start penalties) but I can't see any other way they win this game.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:13 am
by eepstein0
Wake has a really good pass offense, this is going to be bad on Saturday

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:23 am
by claver2010
yeah not a great match up for our d, going to have to hope for some turnovers.

meter mentioned on saturday that it's close to a sell out

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:40 am
by DomingoOrtiz
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
meter mentioned on saturday that it's close to a sell out


Parents' weekend and 3:30 kickoff.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:31 pm
by BCSUPERFAN22
BC923 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Not sure any of the defensive staff members that developed players are still here. Allen always credited Pasqualoni, and now Campanile is gone. Sheridan is not all that impressive. Credit to Daz for making some good hires in the first place, but I don’t think he’s been as successful backfilling


They lost 4 starting DBs and 3 starting DLs to graduation/NFL. This talent “reset” was bound to happen at some point. I really hope at some point the abandon the Mike Palmer experiment, he’s been atrocious. I’d much rather take my chances with Muse going forward.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:04 pm
by BCMurt09
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Not sure any of the defensive staff members that developed players are still here. Allen always credited Pasqualoni, and now Campanile is gone. Sheridan is not all that impressive. Credit to Daz for making some good hires in the first place, but I don’t think he’s been as successful backfilling


They lost 4 starting DBs and 3 starting DLs to graduation/NFL. This talent “reset” was bound to happen at some point. I really hope at some point the abandon the Mike Palmer experiment, he’s been atrocious. I’d much rather take my chances with Muse going forward.


Speaking of starting DBs in the NFL, last night John Johnson had the INT that sealed the win for LA.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:08 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:I expect the defense to improve.
Daz might be a shitty game day coach who can’t make adjustments but him and his staff have shown an ability to
Develop players at all positions not named QB.

Not sure any of the defensive staff members that developed players are still here. Allen always credited Pasqualoni, and now Campanile is gone. Sheridan is not all that impressive. Credit to Daz for making some good hires in the first place, but I don’t think he’s been as successful backfilling


They lost 4 starting DBs and 3 starting DLs to graduation/NFL. This talent “reset” was bound to happen at some point. I really hope at some point the abandon the Mike Palmer experiment, he’s been atrocious. I’d much rather take my chances with Muse going forward.


Muse is playing OLB. We have a serious talent (lack thereof) issue on D.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:23 pm
by hansen

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:50 pm
by hansen
just finished listening to the Daz presser.

Daz interestingly put zero blame on AB and instead hinted that the WR routes hadn't been run tight enough and the play calls haven't been conducive to AB completing passes on 1st and 2nd down.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:19 pm
by innocentbystander
hansen {l Wrote}:just finished listening to the Daz presser.

Daz interestingly put zero blame on AB and instead hinted that the WR routes hadn't been run tight enough and the play calls haven't been conducive to AB completing passes on 1st and 2nd down.


He is right and wrong. He is right that the WR routes were not run tight enough and the play calls weren't conducive, but AB should still receive some blame. He missed wide open receivers. Unacceptable. Not running their routes tight doesn't excuse poor throws on AB's part.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:23 pm
by claver2010
as stated in the game thread, i think there's a lot that goes into our throw game woes

playcalling certainly a part of it
leading p5 in drop %
i bet our average depth of target is probably top 10% of p5 (both cause we don't throw as much and others use their screen game a lot more)
as is brown's inaccuracy

so far he's been up and down (like last year)
vt was excellent
richmond who gives a shit
ku bad
rutgers ok

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:26 pm
by eepstein0
claver2010 {l Wrote}:as stated in the game thread, i think there's a lot that goes into our throw game woes

playcalling certainly a part of it
leading p5 in drop %
i bet our average depth of target is probably top 10% of p5 (both cause we don't throw as much and others use their screen game a lot more)
as is brown's inaccuracy

so far he's been up and down (like last year)
vt was excellent
richmond who gives a shit
ku bad
rutgers ok


Saying Rutgers was "ok" is being generous

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:54 pm
by BC923
The absolute floor for completion percentage these days is 60%. Brown is, what, 54% career? Sure there’s drops but he’s not all that close to being good enough to lead us anywhere or even be the sort of guy who can manage a game for us. Some of that is on him, but like Claver said lots of other factors too

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:02 pm
by angrychicken
His inaccuracy affects the playcalling. The playcalling doesn't affect his inaccuracy.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:43 pm
by innocentbystander
angrychicken {l Wrote}:His inaccuracy affects the playcalling. The playcalling doesn't affect his inaccuracy.


This statement is equally true of BC's passing game AND BC's field goal kicking game.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:48 pm
by twballgame9
BC923 {l Wrote}:The absolute floor for completion percentage these days is 60%. Brown is, what, 54% career? Sure there’s drops but he’s not all that close to being good enough to lead us anywhere or even be the sort of guy who can manage a game for us. Some of that is on him, but like Claver said lots of other factors too


BC doesnt run the offense that created the 60% floor. That's not to excuse Brown or suggest the offense is good, just to say you aren't running this offense and expecting the dink and dunk completion percentages in the high 60s.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:52 pm
by claver2010
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Saying Rutgers was "ok" is being generous


eh maybe

6.4 yards per attempt + 5 rushes for 1d / TD, no picks, no sacks

not great not terrible

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:29 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
claver2010 {l Wrote}:meter mentioned on saturday that it's close to a sell out

Color me skeptical.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:43 am
by DuchesneEast
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:meter mentioned on saturday that it's close to a sell out

Color me skeptical.


Parents Weekend, 3:00 start, nice weather, decent beatable opponent. Perfect storm.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:49 am
by BC923
Thamel tweeted out that Wake is averaging 8.65 yards per drop back. I’m sure Sheridan has a plan for that

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:45 pm
by hansen
BC923 {l Wrote}:Thamel tweeted out that Wake is averaging 8.65 yards per drop back. I’m sure Sheridan has a plan for that


I'm expecting a lot of cover 2, cushion defense. Probably will need to bring a lot of blitzes in order to compensate for the lack of pressure from the DL.

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:22 pm
by blueline
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:meter mentioned on saturday that it's close to a sell out

Color me skeptical.


Parents Weekend, 3:00 start, nice weather, decent beatable opponent. Perfect storm.


Beatable but Daz always finds to blow a winnable game

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:58 pm
by 2001Eagle
It will be shocking if wake scores less than 30

Re: Wake Forest weak

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:54 pm
by eepstein0
hansen {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:Thamel tweeted out that Wake is averaging 8.65 yards per drop back. I’m sure Sheridan has a plan for that


I'm expecting a lot of cover 2, cushion defense. Probably will need to bring a lot of blitzes in order to compensate for the lack of pressure from the DL.


Blitzing like crazy leaves guys like Palmer and Haynes on an island. Not a good idea.

The correct strategy is to jam and beat their receivers and RBs up similar to what the Pats have done in the past. Wake has small skill position players.