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Schiano was 68-67 overall and 28-48 in conference (the Big East Conference) at Rutgers.

If this is honestly who people want coaching BC then we should just fucking keep Daz.

Los {l Wrote}:Can Schiano improve our recruiting rankings in the ACC from the 12-14 range to say 6-8? If the answer is yes then IMO he's worth a shot. We've never even sniffed that type of recruiting "success". As someone else on here noted, if he can clean up in NJ and eastern PA it might be a way to get this program to the next level.

Agreed

Schiano only ever got it done after the Big East had already been raided. Got some nice players to go to Rutgers, and maybe he could upgrade the talent level, but I don’t you hire a head coach based on recruiting ability. That was the big selling point with Addazio. That’s what assistants are for. Plenty of people could get some momentum in recruiting given the right staff.

BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Schiano was 68-67 overall and 28-48 in conference (the Big East Conference) at Rutgers.

How did Rutgers do before and after his tenure? People acting like RU is just a normal football program.

If the choice is really Schiano vs Daz, I'm picking Schiano every time.

HJS {l Wrote}:

BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Schiano was 68-67 overall and 28-48 in conference (the Big East Conference) at Rutgers.

How did Rutgers do before and after his tenure? People acting like RU is just a normal football program.

If the choice is really Schiano vs Daz, I'm picking Schiano every time.

I agree. Rutgers is a blackhole since Schiano and was a blackhole before. The only reason I'd be okay with Schiano is just on his record at the Rutgers, even if the Big East was a shell of its former self. That was a magical job (that said, if Schiano was torpedoed at Tennessee b/c of the Sandusky connection, it's gotta be fantasy that he's in the mix for BC, IMO)

JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Schiano was 68-67 overall and 28-48 in conference (the Big East Conference) at Rutgers.

How did Rutgers do before and after his tenure? People acting like RU is just a normal football program.

If the choice is really Schiano vs Daz, I'm picking Schiano every time.

I agree. Rutgers is a blackhole since Schiano and was a blackhole before. The only reason I'd be okay with Schiano is just on his record at the Rutgers, even if the Big East was a shell of its former self. That was a magical job (that said, if Schiano was torpedoed at Tennessee b/c of the Sandusky connection, it's gotta be fantasy that he's in the mix for BC, IMO)

Rutgers was UConn level of bad before Schiano showed up.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:Schiano was 68-67 overall and 28-48 in conference (the Big East Conference) at Rutgers.

How did Rutgers do before and after his tenure? People acting like RU is just a normal football program.

If the choice is really Schiano vs Daz, I'm picking Schiano every time.

I agree. Rutgers is a blackhole since Schiano and was a blackhole before. The only reason I'd be okay with Schiano is just on his record at the Rutgers, even if the Big East was a shell of its former self. That was a magical job (that said, if Schiano was torpedoed at Tennessee b/c of the Sandusky connection, it's gotta be fantasy that he's in the mix for BC, IMO)

Rutgers was UConn level of bad before Schiano showed up.

8 Win Greg is literally the same coach as 7 Win Steve. If it's a choice between the two, just fucking keep Addazio and save the buy out money.

He had four years in 10 of winning records in conference. In the Big East. At Rutgers. Jesus fucking Christ.

EDIT: 4 wins against ranked opponents in 10 years.

This might be the dumbest fucking conversation on this board.

Schiano was the coach at Rutgers for 11 years. His time in Piscataway was an incredible anomaly when viewed through the last 30 years of Rutgers football.

While at Rutgers, Schiano was 68-67 (50.4%) overall and had a conference record of 28-48 (36.8%).
The other 19 years, Rutgers was 76-140-1 (35.2%) overall and had a conference record of 30-100-1 (23.1%) (this number would be lower but RU wasn't in a conference in Graber's inaugural 3-8 campaign)
Furthermore, Schiano had won 8 or more games 5 of his 11 seasons. Rutgers won 8 or more games just twice in the other 19. Those 2 occurred right after his departure to the NFL with the players that he recruited.

Rutgers futility is otherworldly. You may not like Schiano, that's fine. You may like Daz better, that's fine. But, to pretend what Schiano accomplished at Rutgers wasn't impressive is simply ignoring an inconvenient truth.

HJS {l Wrote}:Schiano was the coach at Rutgers for 11 years. His time in Piscataway was an incredible anomaly when viewed through the last 30 years of Rutgers football.

While at Rutgers, Schiano was 68-67 (50.4%) overall and had a conference record of 28-48 (36.8%).
The other 19 years, Rutgers was 76-140-1 (35.2%) overall and had a conference record of 30-100-1 (23.1%) (this number would be lower but RU wasn't in a conference in Graber's inaugural 3-8 campaign)
Furthermore, Schiano had won 8 or more games 5 of his 11 seasons. Rutgers won 8 or more games just twice in the other 19. Those 2 occurred right after his departure to the NFL with the players that he recruited.

Rutgers futility is otherworldly. You may not like Schiano, that's fine. You may like Daz better, that's fine. But, to pretend what Schiano accomplished at Rutgers wasn't impressive is simply ignoring an inconvenient truth.

Yes. Thank you. I cited his 0.4% above average overall record and his below average conference record about four posts ago. He also had double digit losses to TOBy every year they played each other.

Hiring Schiano will be maintaining the status quo. He is a known quantity and not a marked improvement over Addazio. You may like Schiano, that's fine, but you can't ignore this inconvenient truth.

HJS {l Wrote}:Schiano was the coach at Rutgers for 11 years. His time in Piscataway was an incredible anomaly when viewed through the last 30 years of Rutgers football.

While at Rutgers, Schiano was 68-67 (50.4%) overall and had a conference record of 28-48 (36.8%).
The other 19 years, Rutgers was 76-140-1 (35.2%) overall and had a conference record of 30-100-1 (23.1%) (this number would be lower but RU wasn't in a conference in Graber's inaugural 3-8 campaign)
Furthermore, Schiano had won 8 or more games 5 of his 11 seasons. Rutgers won 8 or more games just twice in the other 19. Those 2 occurred right after his departure to the NFL with the players that he recruited.

Rutgers futility is otherworldly. You may not like Schiano, that's fine. You may like Daz better, that's fine. But, to pretend what Schiano accomplished at Rutgers wasn't impressive is simply ignoring an inconvenient truth.

There’s an obvious point you’re not including. Much of his success came when the Big East had already been raided. Before Schiano, you had a Big East with Miami, VT, and BC. After Schiano, Rutgers plays OSU, Michigan, Penn St. etc. He also benefitted from Ray Rice who I believe was a Cuse commit only to switch after Pasqualoni was fired.

https://twitter.com/smartfootball/statu ... 75360?s=20
It is a bit frustrating for us to be still dealing with a hiring we never wanted while the Board fave proving to be a big effing miss.

According to today's paper, Hafley and Beilema are emerging as Plan B candidates for Rutgers.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019 ... rough.html

HJS {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/1199336263788175360?s=20
It is a bit frustrating for us to be still dealing with a hiring we never wanted while the Board fave proving to be a big effing miss

Roman would have been great, and I think it only reinforces that we should look for an NFL guy this time around.

All credit to the patron saint's ability to make a laughingstock relevant, but Schiano does jack shit to advance the program.

ATL put up a good candidate name: Mike Reed '95 DB Coach for Clemson.
I like the idea of hiring him as head coach IF we pony up money to get an experienced/talented OC.

Will we have something extra to be thankful for tomorrow?

https://www.si.com/college/bostoncollege/football/boston-college-steve-addazio-rutgers-coaches-hot-seat/

ZBC2001 {l Wrote}:Will we have something extra to be thankful for tomorrow?

https://www.si.com/college/bostoncollege/football/boston-college-steve-addazio-rutgers-coaches-hot-seat/

interesting cast of characters in the comments section on that article. (wave's hi to a resident in Ft Worth Texas) Happy Thanksgiving guys

hansen {l Wrote}:ATL put up a good candidate name: Mike Reed '95 DB Coach for Clemson.
I like the idea of hiring him as head coach IF we pony up money to get an experienced/talented OC.

Name one program who would have interest in hiring Mike Reed as a head coach? He's never been an coordinator. Further, while I wouldn't call his press conferences Diaco-like, I would say they aren't particularly exciting. Basically, his only qualification for the job is diploma from 25 years ago.

Take this fwiw, I know someone who is very close to Addazio from his time in the CT High School scene. I asked if they had heard anything re: Rutgers and the whole situation, and I was told that Arkansas (of all places) is showing interest. Idk if I believe it as it makes zero sense and there would have been something publicly (ie Rutgers) if true, but just thought Id throw it out there

daz to rutgers and schiano to bc hypothetical in today's globe

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/colleges/2019/11/27/greg-schiano-next-coach-might-make-sense/c1dceDK2d5PyugAnDV78WO/story.html

It is one of the more fascinating scenarios that could play out at the annual end-of-season coaching carousel and one that, in the end, could bring us college football’s own version of Freaky Friday, wherein Rutgers would have interest in Boston College’s Steve Addazio.

With Addazio on the hot seat regardless of what happens Saturday against Pittsburgh (the 5-6 Eagles are 10-point underdogs), BC AD Martin Jarmond also might be in the market for a new coach.

Connect the dots. Jarmond previously was the deputy AD at Ohio State from 2009-16. Schiano began his assistant head coach/defensive coordinator stint at Ohio State in 2016. So the two have a history.

But more than that, Schiano has a college football history. Rutgers may have chosen to ignore it — a total head-scratcher to me, given that Rutgers is precisely where he established it by somehow turning the nation’s biggest football doormat into a top 20 team — but if the adage about one person’s trash being someone else’s treasure, Jarmond could absolutely cash in.

Addazio is the worst. Losing out on Rutgers after publicly gunning for the job is so TOB UDub.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019 ... saved.html
https://www.onthebanks.com/2019/11/27/2 ... ll-big-ten
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019 ... apart.html

HJS {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:ATL put up a good candidate name: Mike Reed '95 DB Coach for Clemson.
I like the idea of hiring him as head coach IF we pony up money to get an experienced/talented OC.

Name one program who would have interest in hiring Mike Reed as a head coach? He's never been an coordinator. Further, while I wouldn't call his press conferences Diaco-like, I would say they aren't particularly exciting. Basically, his only qualification for the job is diploma from 25 years ago.

That’s because you are delusional thinking we are gonna get a good hire. He will be no worse than the terrible hire that Leahy agrees to.

Also of note to Schiano - I usually LOVE NFL experience. The smartest coaches are there, and they have to think about preparing players and game plans for the highest level. That being said, Schiano was a dumpster fire in the NFL. Yes, it is a brutal league. BUT, his WP% (.344) is even with Vance Joseph, and the only recent guys below him are Gus Bradley, Hue Jackson and Steve Wilks. Say what you want about NFL head coaches like Philbin, McAdoo, Rex Ryan, etc....but they were all WAY more successful at the highest level than Schiano was. I could think about looking at the 11 years of .500 football at Rutgers in a different light if the NFL track record was even a little bit better.

I agree with others that Schiano is an upgrade over Daz. I prefer him to the status quo. But we can do better.

The sharks in the water smell blood:

Please Leave Steve Addazio
by Jamal Burke
https://www.wblzmedia.com/2019/11/27/bo ... ve-please/

hansen {l Wrote}:The sharks in the water smell blood:

Please Leave Steve Addazio
by Jamal Burke
https://www.wblzmedia.com/2019/11/27/bo ... ve-please/

There’s always been whispers about how the former players hate him, but it’s been mostly under wraps. If Addazio survives this year somehow he’s severely hobbled

BC923 {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:The sharks in the water smell blood:

Please Leave Steve Addazio
by Jamal Burke
https://www.wblzmedia.com/2019/11/27/bo ... ve-please/

There’s always been whispers about how the former players hate him, but it’s been mostly under wraps. If Addazio survives this year somehow he’s severely hobbled

To play college football, you got to be a highly competitive person. So, I imagine the losing must eat at them in a way I can only imagine.

hansen {l Wrote}:

BC923 {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:The sharks in the water smell blood:

Please Leave Steve Addazio
by Jamal Burke
https://www.wblzmedia.com/2019/11/27/bo ... ve-please/

There’s always been whispers about how the former players hate him, but it’s been mostly under wraps. If Addazio survives this year somehow he’s severely hobbled

To play college football, you got to be a highly competitive person. So, I imagine the losing must eat at them in a way I can only imagine.

a heterosexual way?

hansen {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:ATL put up a good candidate name: Mike Reed '95 DB Coach for Clemson.
I like the idea of hiring him as head coach IF we pony up money to get an experienced/talented OC.

Name one program who would have interest in hiring Mike Reed as a head coach? He's never been an coordinator. Further, while I wouldn't call his press conferences Diaco-like, I would say they aren't particularly exciting. Basically, his only qualification for the job is diploma from 25 years ago.

That’s because you are delusional thinking we are gonna get a good hire. He will be no worse than the terrible hire that Leahy agrees to.

Was Swinney a coordinator before he got the Clemson gig? Coulda sworn he was WR coach.

Coughlin may be leaving Jacksonville

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/tom-coughlin-wont-commit-to-returning-to-jaguars-next-season/ar-BBXqjQz?ocid=spartanntp

Coughlin held an impromptu press conference at the team’s facility on Wednesday. The reasoning is not yet known.

However, Coughlin was asked directly whether he plans on returning next season. The Super Bowl winner ignored the question, simply indicating that there’s five more games left in the season.

Maybe... coming back to BC?

MF73-Eleazar {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:ATL put up a good candidate name: Mike Reed '95 DB Coach for Clemson.
I like the idea of hiring him as head coach IF we pony up money to get an experienced/talented OC.

Name one program who would have interest in hiring Mike Reed as a head coach? He's never been an coordinator. Further, while I wouldn't call his press conferences Diaco-like, I would say they aren't particularly exciting. Basically, his only qualification for the job is diploma from 25 years ago.

That’s because you are delusional thinking we are gonna get a good hire. He will be no worse than the terrible hire that Leahy agrees to.

Was Swinney a coordinator before he got the Clemson gig? Coulda sworn he was WR coach.

WR coach until named interim head coach after Bowden resigned.

Swinney was a promotion. Like HCRD at OSU, the people hiring him had first hand knowledge of him in that environment and with that team. Further, Dabo was a mad-man as a recruiter. The closest thing to Dabo’s elevation would be Al Washington or Campanile if they were still at BC. Mike Reed is simply not close to being the same comparison.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/684 ... of-clemson