2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eagletx on Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:06 pm

JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:If Daz isn't gone I'll be surprised - why did all the rumors explode out after the ND loss then? It can be just wishful thinking, otherwise we'd have these rumors every year the last few years.

My take: Jarmond told Daz he was out after ND, but that it wasn't Marty's decision (true or not) and they thank him and want him to succeed b/c (in all fairness) he did run a clean program that for the most part garnered BC decent press (Gameday etc) and really rebuilt stabilized it from the death rattle we started to hear under Spaz.

That would explain: Daz shaving his 'stache (big life change/losing what will prob be his best gig), the Rutgers rumors (Jarmond giving his blessing for a positive exit), the high-five and good feeling after y'day's win and Daz saying it was his best coaching job (b/c he's a goner and Jarmond is playing the part of reluctant messenger).

And really, after Spaz I think we can say Daz was mostly the coach we wanted/needed, but for the W-L and competitiveness in big games, which of course, is why he's the best paid person at BC and why he needs to go now.


There is so much more fundamentally wrong with Daz's management; the W-L and big game competitive were just symptoms of his incompetent program management. In seven years:
-He has been incapable of recruiting a QB; it my own feeling part of this is because he sees a QB as the guy who simply hands off to guys who tote the rock. Recruits likely see that writing on the wall and look elsewhere. Notable that a fifth year transfer who fell in his lap was his best QB in 7 years.
- Program management requires sufficient vision to anticipate your needs/weaknesses and go out and fill those voids. His allowing the defense to completely decompose like it did this year was a simple indictment of his lack of vision. He squandered what was arguably his best offensive team he's had here. Of course his excuse is that all that talent left (but he ignores the fact that he had no seviceable replacements in the pipeline). That is an excuse for a first or second year coach, not the guy in year 7.
- And, of course there is the factor of continuity and stability; the HC has been the only continuity in the coaching staff over these 7 years. That revolving door has to impact players as different coaches inevitably come in with different ways of doing things, teaching things, etc...

I could go on....summarized simply, after 7 years, from one year to the next, one is hard pressed to formulate reasonable expectations of what might happen year to year, because the program's foundation is forever shifting.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby jboston19 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:52 pm

Steve Deossie just tweeted he heard the players are in an unscheduled meeting right now, possibly about coaching.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eagle33 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:10 pm

jboston19 {l Wrote}:Steve Deossie just tweeted he heard the players are in an unscheduled meeting right now, possibly about coaching.

he also just tweeted "al washington"
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:15 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Cadillac90 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:16 pm

eagle33 {l Wrote}:
jboston19 {l Wrote}:Steve Deossie just tweeted he heard the players are in an unscheduled meeting right now, possibly about coaching.

he also just tweeted "al washington"



Maybe the former players do know something....
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby angrychicken on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:17 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:I'll bet anyone ten thousand GoogleAdSense dollars that Addazio is gone by Tuesday.


If I had ten thousand google ad sense dollars, then I would take that bet. I don’t think he will be fired albeit he could leave. Still odds are that he is around for a long time.

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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:22 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:I'll bet anyone ten thousand GoogleAdSense dollars that Addazio is gone by Tuesday.


If I had ten thousand google ad sense dollars, then I would take that bet. I don’t think he will be fired albeit he could leave. Still odds are that he is around for a long time.

You can owe me.


Did you have inside info?
I’m really shocked, it needed to be done, but I didn’t think they would actually do it.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:29 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Is anyone tracking planes from Columbus? The weather may force the presser onto FaceTime if the former players didn’t spring for a private jet last night.



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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby JesuitIvy on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:38 pm

Al Washington (if it's him) is the result in part of being too late to hiring Ryan Day.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:42 pm

JesuitIvy {l Wrote}:Al Washington (if it's him) is the result in part of being too late to hiring Ryan Day.


Definitely
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eagle33 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:48 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:51 pm

All comments in Feldman’s thread have Donnie Brown being the guy. Now... that might be because they are all Michigan fans looking to hand him off to another program.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby RegalBCeagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:56 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:All comments in Feldman’s thread have Donnie Brown being the guy. Now... that might be because they are all Michigan fans looking to hand him off to another program.


Fuck us all if it's Brown. We've seen what old white D Coordinator coaches can do to ruin a program. At least with Washington he's be young, full of piss and vinegar, and relatable - even if he's very inexperienced.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:58 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:All comments in Feldman’s thread have Donnie Brown being the guy. Now... that might be because they are all Michigan fans looking to hand him off to another program.


Reminds me of those guys on TOS that always float TOB on the boards of teams looking for a new coach. It would always piss of the merrymen that the reaction was universally NO!

I know Brown has a huge a contact but is it just year-to-year? Also, he will not be our new HC.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:01 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:All comments in Feldman’s thread have Donnie Brown being the guy. Now... that might be because they are all Michigan fans looking to hand him off to another program.


Reminds me of those guys on TOS that always float TOB on the boards of teams looking for a new coach. It would always piss of the merrymen that the reaction was universally NO!

I know Brown has a huge a contact but is it just year-to-year? Also, he will not be our new HC.


MJ isn’t hiring Don Brown
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:04 pm



Probably got this list from this thread.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby JesuitIvy on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:05 pm

Rich Gunnell interim HC. Always liked him. I assume he'll emphasize the throw game.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BrightonEagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:06 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:


Probably got this list from this thread.

That list is terrifying. There are some really underwhelming names on there.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BrightonEagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:09 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:


Probably got this list from this thread.

That list is terrifying. There are some really underwhelming names on there.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:10 pm

BrightonEagle {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:


Probably got this list from this thread.

That list is terrifying. There are some really underwhelming names on there.


Most of that list is okay.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:10 pm

Ciao Minchia. 'Bout fucking time. Va fa Napoli.

Just fucking hire Coughlin's playbook.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby Eagle1999 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:14 pm

Rich Gunnell is our version of Dabo Swinney. Bring on the National championships!
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:20 pm

I’d rather keep Daz than hire 3rd Down Donnie Brown.

I don’t necessarily understand the support for Al. We loved him as a player. But, let’s be honest. That’s a massive question mark. He left BC for a lesser position. Was saved by Donnie Brown and then reunited by HCRD. Never been a coordinator and hasn’t really progressed his career. I get it. Folks think he can be our Pat Fitzgerald. I guess it’s a possibility. However, if you want to compare resumes, how do you pick Al over Hafley?
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby HJS on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:23 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
BrightonEagle {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:


Probably got this list from this thread.

That list is terrifying. There are some really underwhelming names on there.


Most of that list is okay.

Only 3 of those 10 names received any relevant votes in our many polls.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby hansen on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:27 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:I’d rather keep Daz than hire 3rd Down Donnie Brown.

I don’t necessarily understand the support for Al. We loved him as a player. But, let’s be honest. That’s a massive question mark. He left BC for a lesser position. Was saved by Donnie Brown and then reunited by HCRD. Never been a coordinator and hasn’t really progressed his career. I get it. Folks think he can be our Pat Fitzgerald. I guess it’s a possibility. However, if you want to compare resumes, how do you pick Al over Hafley?


I could easily see Brown being Spaz 2.0.

As for Washington, I disagree about Washington. His bio on the tOSU is impressive. If he was a coordinator right now, then I think he would be the perfect fire for BC. The question is do we want to take a risk on a guy? Honestly we might need a guy like that opposes to some retread that we would normally go after. He might just be the type of hire to take us to 10 wins. He would def need a strong OC though. I think if I was interviewing him then I would ask who are you going to be your coordinators and get a sense of does he have a plan, is it realistic, etc. I think in management sometimes people just have “it” and experience while helpful isn’t the end all / be all.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:27 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:I’d rather keep Daz than hire 3rd Down Donnie Brown.

I don’t necessarily understand the support for Al. We loved him as a player. But, let’s be honest. That’s a massive question mark. He left BC for a lesser position. Was saved by Donnie Brown and then reunited by HCRD. Never been a coordinator and hasn’t really progressed his career. I get it. Folks think he can be our Pat Fitzgerald. I guess it’s a possibility. However, if you want to compare resumes, how do you pick Al over Hafley?


In addition to choosing Addazio over Don Brown, I'd also rather have Addazio over Al Washington.

They can't mess around and hire someone who would likely be in over his head. He needs to become at least a coordinator first, if not a head coach at a smaller school.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:29 pm

This doesn’t mean anything has been decided or is not a read into Jarmonds mind, but, I was told that Addazio thinks the new coach will be Al Washington
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:30 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:I’d rather keep Daz than hire 3rd Down Donnie Brown.

I don’t necessarily understand the support for Al. We loved him as a player. But, let’s be honest. That’s a massive question mark. He left BC for a lesser position. Was saved by Donnie Brown and then reunited by HCRD. Never been a coordinator and hasn’t really progressed his career. I get it. Folks think he can be our Pat Fitzgerald. I guess it’s a possibility. However, if you want to compare resumes, how do you pick Al over Hafley?


It would take some balls to hire someone that has never been a coordinator. It is why we didn't hire Edsall.
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:31 pm

Also, Blauds says Al/Brown package is leading
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Re: 2019-2020 Coaching Candidate Thread (this time for reals)

Postby MilitantEagle on Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:34 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:This doesn’t mean anything has been decided or is not a read into Jarmonds mind, but, I was told that Addazio thinks the new coach will be Al Washington


I'm sure Al is a good guy, but what are his qualifications other than having played at BC? No other P5 school would consider him as head coach.
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