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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:43 pm

twballgame9 wrote:Recruiting rankings are always dumb. BC might land one 4 star over a UF or Alabama, etc. But if 6 guys originally destined to become 4 stars all chose BC, the basement weirdos are automatically going to assume they were wrong in their assessment. The assumed destination drives the rating, particularly when you get down to the level in the ranking where BC is traditionally looking, and the basement dwellers have watched the same grainy tape on Hudl that we all watch.

If BC lands guys in the top 200 on any of these lists, fine, they are probably very good. But they also will have multiple offers from big time schools, which is why they are ranked that high. After 200, blind darts from the basement means nothing.

Essentially, recruiting rankings are significantly more biased and skewed than coronavirus stats.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:14 pm

bceagles24 wrote:
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Corporal Funishment wrote:Recruiting players that have at least one other P5 offer is a minimum expectation, not an accomplishment


As it should be but you are the one who made the comparison of classes all being around 60th when the fact of the matter is a bunch of Daz’s classes didn’t have a majority of players with other P5 offers. Hence the pointing out that rankings mean nothing this cycle.


If you think this class is materially different than the ones we've had before, then more power to you. Looks about the same to me.


P5 Offers for commits:
2014: 14/28
2015: 14/25
2016: 11/19
2017: 12/21
2018: 10/20
2019: 16/19
2020: 12/13
2021: 15/17

Yeah I’d say it’s pretty different considering they’ve already got more commits with P5 offers, and a lot more coming, then any of the classes in 14-18 in a smaller class.


I completely reject the chosen metric as valid, but I'll play along. This information either tells me that Addazio got significantly better at recruiting in his lame duck years, after losing his strongest recruiting assistants (Washington, Day, Brown), and despite the eye test telling me something very different - OR it tells me that somewhere around 2018 the recruiting sites got better at using social media to track down the offer lists of the types of kids who end up at BC. I have a feeling it's the second.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:44 pm

19 and especially 20 will turn out to be strong classes.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:51 pm

Corporal Funishment wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:
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Corporal Funishment wrote:Recruiting players that have at least one other P5 offer is a minimum expectation, not an accomplishment


As it should be but you are the one who made the comparison of classes all being around 60th when the fact of the matter is a bunch of Daz’s classes didn’t have a majority of players with other P5 offers. Hence the pointing out that rankings mean nothing this cycle.


If you think this class is materially different than the ones we've had before, then more power to you. Looks about the same to me.


P5 Offers for commits:
2014: 14/28
2015: 14/25
2016: 11/19
2017: 12/21
2018: 10/20
2019: 16/19
2020: 12/13
2021: 15/17

Yeah I’d say it’s pretty different considering they’ve already got more commits with P5 offers, and a lot more coming, then any of the classes in 14-18 in a smaller class.


I completely reject the chosen metric as valid, but I'll play along. This information either tells me that Addazio got significantly better at recruiting in his lame duck years, after losing his strongest recruiting assistants (Washington, Day, Brown), and despite the eye test telling me something very different - OR it tells me that somewhere around 2018 the recruiting sites got better at using social media to track down the offer lists of the types of kids who end up at BC. I have a feeling it's the second.


His recruiting did get better which interesting enough, or not if you pay attention, coincides with the news and subsequent building of the IPF. As for the tracking of the offers I’ve been following recruiting and covered it for years it’s not any easier or more difficult as it was for those classes that’s just not a relevant factor. Fact of the matter if the recruiting did get better on paper in the later classes and Hafley has took it up another notch on top of that.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:54 pm

DrJackRyan wrote:Am I the only one left who reads The Herald? They do have pretty good BC coverage.

Drew Kendall shares recruiting journey with father, Pete

Nobles’ Drew is son of ex-BC o-line star Pete

NORWELL, MA. – MARCH 30: Drew and his father Pete Kendall on March 30, 2020 in Norwell, Massachusetts. (Staff Photo By Matt Stone/MediaNews Group/Boston Herald)
By GREG DUDEK |

April 1, 2020 at 6:10 a.m.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/04/01/drew-kendall-shares-recruiting-journey-with-father-pete/


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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:04 pm

top 7 for 4* WR jalil farooq out of maryland with ou, lsu, bama, clemson, maryland & wv. essentially all baby rapists offered
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:17 am

claver2010 wrote:top 7 for 4* WR jalil farooq out of maryland with ou, lsu, bama, clemson, maryland & wv. essentially all baby rapists offered


The DMV recruiting is very impressive. Doubt BC lands this kid, but there's a ton of football talent down there.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BrightonEagle on Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:07 am

eepstein0 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:top 7 for 4* WR jalil farooq out of maryland with ou, lsu, bama, clemson, maryland & wv. essentially all baby rapists offered


The DMV recruiting is very impressive. Doubt BC lands this kid, but there's a ton of football talent down there.

Great to see us have so much early success down there, but it would be nice to hear a little more buzz about some of the other recruiters/territories. Seems like everything is down there.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:25 pm

Gonna need a 2023 thread... we just landed 3 recruits for that year.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:44 pm

hansen wrote:Gonna need a 2023 thread... we just landed 3 recruits for that year.

I’ll have one up tonight.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:05 pm

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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BC923 on Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:08 pm

MF73-Eleazar wrote:Jalon Williams is a BC commit.

https://twitter.com/iccyjay3/status/1291796354671489024

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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:40 pm

Hafley doing well recruiting CBs, no surprise.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:52 pm

last time we got a kid out of texas with a texas offer?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:58 pm

Other notable offers:
Arizona
Boise
Indiana
Kansas
Mississippi St
Northwestern
Oregon St
SMU
Texas
Texas Tech
Utah
Vanderbilt
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:21 pm

bceagles24 wrote:
MF73-Eleazar wrote:Josiah Stewart from Everett is no longer a BC commit. Man, what happened there?

"Previously committed to Boston College 5/2/20"

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/ ... art-250863

BC moved on


He just verballed to Coastal Carolina.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:30 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
bceagles24 wrote:
MF73-Eleazar wrote:Josiah Stewart from Everett is no longer a BC commit. Man, what happened there?

"Previously committed to Boston College 5/2/20"

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/ ... art-250863

BC moved on


He just verballed to Coastal Carolina.


That makes me feel better.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:44 pm

Apparently down two BC and Michigan for Daymon David ...

https://gbmwolverine.com/2020/08/17/michigan-football-tidbits-2021-db-recruit-daymon-david/


Latest buzz with Michigan and Daymon David

In other news, Michigan seems to be in a stronger position than before with three-star safety recruit Daymon David.

David is a low-ranking three-star recruit, sort of like Hairston. He’s from Reisterstown, Maryland and ranks 1,143 overall in 2021 according to the 247 sports composite rankings.

But David doesn’t play to his ranking. He’s actually much better and at some point, he will likely get a bump. He is a tremendous hitter and he has turned into a priority for the Wolverines.

For a while, David was considered an Oklahoma lean. But the Sooners aren’t known for turning out NFL defensive backs, so you always felt like Michigan was going to have a chance.

And now, according to a report from Boston College reporter Tyler Calvaruso of Eagles Insider ($), the Sooners have moved David down their board, meaning it could be down to BC and Michigan. Here’s an excerpt of what he wrote:

“I’m hearing that Daymon David is dropping down Oklahoma’s board, as the Sooners are prioritizing Jardin Gilbert. From what I have been told, this leaves Boston College and Michigan as the two top contenders and the two fighting the hardest to land David. David and Michigan have been in contact basically every day and it’s clear that he is a priority recruit for them at this point in the cycle.”
It felt like it was down to the Sooners and Wolverines and if Oklahoma really is prioritizing others at the safety position, then you’d have to consider U-M the favorite to land David.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:52 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:Apparently down two BC and Michigan for Daymon David ...

https://gbmwolverine.com/2020/08/17/michigan-football-tidbits-2021-db-recruit-daymon-david/


Latest buzz with Michigan and Daymon David

In other news, Michigan seems to be in a stronger position than before with three-star safety recruit Daymon David.

David is a low-ranking three-star recruit, sort of like Hairston. He’s from Reisterstown, Maryland and ranks 1,143 overall in 2021 according to the 247 sports composite rankings.

But David doesn’t play to his ranking. He’s actually much better and at some point, he will likely get a bump. He is a tremendous hitter and he has turned into a priority for the Wolverines.

For a while, David was considered an Oklahoma lean. But the Sooners aren’t known for turning out NFL defensive backs, so you always felt like Michigan was going to have a chance.

And now, according to a report from Boston College reporter Tyler Calvaruso of Eagles Insider ($), the Sooners have moved David down their board, meaning it could be down to BC and Michigan. Here’s an excerpt of what he wrote:

“I’m hearing that Daymon David is dropping down Oklahoma’s board, as the Sooners are prioritizing Jardin Gilbert. From what I have been told, this leaves Boston College and Michigan as the two top contenders and the two fighting the hardest to land David. David and Michigan have been in contact basically every day and it’s clear that he is a priority recruit for them at this point in the cycle.”
It felt like it was down to the Sooners and Wolverines and if Oklahoma really is prioritizing others at the safety position, then you’d have to consider U-M the favorite to land David.


That last sentence is pure arrogance and showing they don’t have a clue. It’s been Oklahoma and BC leading for months now with Michigan making a late offer and trying to make up ground. Could he end up at Michigan? Sure but right now with Oklahoma having another safety higher on the board, and who they are in good shape with, BC is leading this race. Don’t think he’s super close to decision though.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby eaglesfan06 on Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:13 pm

3* ATH Cole Batson from San Clemente, CA commited today.

https://twitter.com/ColeBatson1/status/1297233217540337665

Other P5 offers: Arizona, Colorado State, MarylandWashington State.

Also of note: 4.0 GPA, with offers from basically every Ivy League school.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:20 pm

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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 pm

eaglesfan06 wrote:3* ATH Cole Batson from San Clemente, CA commited today.

https://twitter.com/ColeBatson1/status/1297233217540337665

Other P5 offers: Arizona, Colorado State, MarylandWashington State.

Also of note: 4.0 GPA, with offers from basically every Ivy League school.

He actually was a Zona commit. He decommitted earlier this week. Sounds like they were expecting him to grow into a hybrid OLB.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:29 pm

Is Jamareeh Jones still a take?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:37 pm

Of our 19 commits... only 6 are slated for offense.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:00 pm

HJS wrote:Of our 19 commits... only 6 are slated for offense.


Batson kid must be smart that’s pretty impressive.

The defense needs the talent influx I was pretty horrified at the lack of athleticism at points last year. El Attrach and Palmer were clueless back there, but they also lacked the closing speed to make a play.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:43 pm

HJS wrote:Of our 19 commits... only 6 are slated for offense.


Hopefully Kendall will be 7?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:17 pm

hansen wrote:Is Jamareeh Jones still a take?

Yes he’s a WR for the staff so the Batson commit didn’t change anything there.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:28 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
HJS wrote:Of our 19 commits... only 6 are slated for offense.


Batson kid must be smart that’s pretty impressive.

The defense needs the talent influx I was pretty horrified at the lack of athleticism at points last year. El Attrach and Palmer were clueless back there, but they also lacked the closing speed to make a play.


Hes from same HS as Chase Rettig and it looks like there is some connection to Will Blackmon (per twitter) ... not sure if he does private coaching with Baston or he knows him from the area (I think Blackmon might be connected to Bosco out there in some way).
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby Oliver Closeoff on Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:43 am

Kendall decides next week, things are looking up for BC. :banana :chewbanka :banana
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:34 am

Oliver Closeoff wrote:Kendall decides next week, things are looking up for BC. :banana :chewbanka :banana


Hope so. Interior OL is the one piece missing in this class.
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