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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:12 pm
by BrightonEagle
yurch10 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
yurch10 {l Wrote}:
Bunratty {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Where does Aazaar fit in BC recruiting lore?

Already a Legend.


Wasn't this guy one of the random names when the staff started being announced, and nobody had any idea what his deal was? I remember there being a couple assistant's that nobody was excited about, and thought he was one of them.

Heis absolutely cleaning up in the DMV region.

Was looking briefly over UVAs class after we lost the CB to them, and while they are slightly higher rated, it seemed the offer lists weren't that impressive. That seems to be the best part of this BC class, in that generally every player has/had legitimate offers from multiple power 5 schools.


Here’s where AAR was first announced viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17676&start=240#p521454 (no meatbaum)


Thx for that. Always thought the staff hirings left people unimpressed, but I guess nobody was real down on him. Though it does seem his recruiting is even better than anticipated.

Not sure if this is what you were thinking of, but people were lukewarm on dc. Everyone was excited about aar.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:47 pm
by claver2010
people were down on both coordinators & the OL coach i believe

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:10 pm
by HJS
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:38 pm
by hansen
HJS {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:38 am
by HJS
I think a cancelled season actually helps BC in recruiting. Now, when you ask kids... "if there is no football, why are you at this college?"... it may hold a little more weight (with them and their parents).

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 am
by DomingoOrtiz
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:33 pm
by BostonCollege1
HJS {l Wrote}:I think a cancelled season actually helps BC in recruiting. Now, when you ask kids... "if there is no football, why are you at this college?"... it may hold a little more weight (with them and their parents).


Good point. When BC recruits, do they talk about guys like Jim Unis (who was the H.S. AA who never played a down, but arrived at the same time?), Herzlich, Ryan, Keeks, Kiwi, maybe Yeargrin... who could talk about how BC made a difference in their lives outside of football?

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:59 pm
by StratEagle
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.


Any press is good press I guess....but also that headline is just straight up factually incorrect. Brian Toal was a 5 star. We've had other players higher rated than Burton who is outside the top 150.

Can't say we've flipped many recruits from programs like Florida though. Huge pickup.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:05 pm
by twballgame9
StratEagle {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
BCEagles25 {l Wrote}:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.


Any press is good press I guess....but also that headline is just straight up factually incorrect. Brian Toal was a 5 star. We've had other players higher rated than Burton who is outside the top 150.

Can't say we've flipped many recruits from programs like Florida though. Huge pickup.


It was based on ESPN rankings, which have him like 74.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:58 pm
by HJS
Scott Mutryn, Brian Toal, William Green and Jim Unis are 4 of our 5 best recruits over the past 30 years.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:19 pm
by twballgame9
Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:08 pm
by HJS
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn

I was going to mention Blackmon to round out our top 5 top rated recruits in the last 30 years. But, I wasn’t sure of his ranking (as opposed to his offers). Other Burton-level recruits: Trueblood, Leavitt, Simpson, Garay, Dillon or Beekman.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:29 am
by DomingoOrtiz
HJS {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn

I was going to mention Blackmon to round out our top 5 top rated recruits in the last 30 years. But, I wasn’t sure of his ranking (as opposed to his offers). Other Burton-level recruits: Trueblood, Leavitt, Simpson, Garay, Dillon or Beekman.


Pete Kendall, Mike Powers, DiCosmo...
Not sure if Burton is a top 10.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:00 am
by eagle33
HJS {l Wrote}:
Mike_S {l Wrote}:Just read the ESPN.com article on this (https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... on-college).


From the article: “ The Eagles now have 18 total commitments in the class and two four-stars with Burton and defensive tackle Andre Porter.”

Porter is only a 2-star player on Rivals: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/ ... ter-235896
This is very confusing for the epstein agenda.


porter is a si dc area all-america candidate. interesting - he missed his jr year due to academic issues.

https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/football/andre-porter-highlights-evaluation

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:13 am
by StratEagle
Trevin Wallace picked up an Oklahoma offer. Gonna be a battle.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 pm
by NJM89
Arizona State has now offered both our DT commits in the past week.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 am
by claver2010
lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:40 am
by HJS
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:50 am
by hansen
HJS {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:39 am
by NJM89
McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:58 am
by hansen
NJM89 {l Wrote}:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


Who?

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:11 am
by DomingoOrtiz
NJM89 {l Wrote}:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


New staff did not want him.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:19 am
by MF73-Eleazar
So McGowan is the only recruit from the previous staff. Hm.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:42 am
by claver2010
NJM89 {l Wrote}:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


seems like he's heading to old dominion

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:37 pm
by hansen
according to 247, class is now scored as third highest in the past 10 years:

2021 0.8505*
2020 0.8529
2019 0.8514
2018 0.8365
2017 0.8263
2016 0.8181
2015 0.8343
2014 0.8271
2013 0.8098
2012 0.8186
2011 0.8329
2010 0.8453


* the K scored as a 0.77 is the only reason this isn't statistically the highest ranked class by far in the past ten years.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:03 pm
by Eaglekeeper
The lowest ranked player is the most important position of need next to QB. It just shows you what a fucking moron Daz was is not recruiting the two positions that account for the most points on game day! I really believe Daz thinks the teams with the most first downs wins!

Go Eagles!

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:55 am
by OCs_Inner_Eagle
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:08 am
by Corporal Funishment
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:26 am
by DomingoOrtiz
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits


But only 2 that had committed to JH.

Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:41 am
by OCs_Inner_Eagle
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits


But only 2 that had committed to JH.


Right. Many decommits happen as better prospects commit, and the lower-rated commit decides he has a better chance at PT elsewhere. Available PT was surely a key factor in Burton's decommitment from UF to us.