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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BrightonEagle on Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:12 pm

yurch10 wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
yurch10 wrote:
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HJS wrote:Where does Aazaar fit in BC recruiting lore?

Already a Legend.


Wasn't this guy one of the random names when the staff started being announced, and nobody had any idea what his deal was? I remember there being a couple assistant's that nobody was excited about, and thought he was one of them.

Heis absolutely cleaning up in the DMV region.

Was looking briefly over UVAs class after we lost the CB to them, and while they are slightly higher rated, it seemed the offer lists weren't that impressive. That seems to be the best part of this BC class, in that generally every player has/had legitimate offers from multiple power 5 schools.


Here’s where AAR was first announced viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17676&start=240#p521454 (no meatbaum)


Thx for that. Always thought the staff hirings left people unimpressed, but I guess nobody was real down on him. Though it does seem his recruiting is even better than anticipated.

Not sure if this is what you were thinking of, but people were lukewarm on dc. Everyone was excited about aar.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:47 pm

people were down on both coordinators & the OL coach i believe
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:10 pm

BCEagles25 wrote:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:38 pm

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BCEagles25 wrote:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:38 am

I think a cancelled season actually helps BC in recruiting. Now, when you ask kids... "if there is no football, why are you at this college?"... it may hold a little more weight (with them and their parents).
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 am

hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby BostonCollege1 on Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:33 pm

HJS wrote:I think a cancelled season actually helps BC in recruiting. Now, when you ask kids... "if there is no football, why are you at this college?"... it may hold a little more weight (with them and their parents).


Good point. When BC recruits, do they talk about guys like Jim Unis (who was the H.S. AA who never played a down, but arrived at the same time?), Herzlich, Ryan, Keeks, Kiwi, maybe Yeargrin... who could talk about how BC made a difference in their lives outside of football?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby StratEagle on Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:59 pm

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.


Any press is good press I guess....but also that headline is just straight up factually incorrect. Brian Toal was a 5 star. We've had other players higher rated than Burton who is outside the top 150.

Can't say we've flipped many recruits from programs like Florida though. Huge pickup.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:05 pm

StratEagle wrote:
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
BCEagles25 wrote:February is a metric fuck ton of time away but lets keep in mind he didnt de-commit and put us high on the list, he outright committed. So I feel better. Nobody wants to be that guy that commits and switches like three times. Unless you wanna say “something something millennials something something lack of commitment something something peanut butter something something dog”

You realize that there is an early signing day in football and very few make it to Feb.


Even if he doesnt stick (although Joe Sullivan retweeted out something about him saying its the best decisions he's ever made so im feeling good about it right now), this is still going to open a lot of recruits eyes. I think covid-19 is going to make proximity a big thing for recruits this year ; it looked like this helped with us flipping him along with his relationship with Hafley and Azar.


Headline on front of Boston.com: BC football lands highest-ranked commitment in program history
Getting great publicity with this verbal.


Any press is good press I guess....but also that headline is just straight up factually incorrect. Brian Toal was a 5 star. We've had other players higher rated than Burton who is outside the top 150.

Can't say we've flipped many recruits from programs like Florida though. Huge pickup.


It was based on ESPN rankings, which have him like 74.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:58 pm

Scott Mutryn, Brian Toal, William Green and Jim Unis are 4 of our 5 best recruits over the past 30 years.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:19 pm

Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:08 pm

twballgame9 wrote:Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn

I was going to mention Blackmon to round out our top 5 top rated recruits in the last 30 years. But, I wasn’t sure of his ranking (as opposed to his offers). Other Burton-level recruits: Trueblood, Leavitt, Simpson, Garay, Dillon or Beekman.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:29 am

HJS wrote:
twballgame9 wrote:Trapillo and Pyne have to be up there as well based on some rankings.

I think Will Blackmon was as highly rated as anyone we are discussing other than Toal. And Mutryn

I was going to mention Blackmon to round out our top 5 top rated recruits in the last 30 years. But, I wasn’t sure of his ranking (as opposed to his offers). Other Burton-level recruits: Trueblood, Leavitt, Simpson, Garay, Dillon or Beekman.


Pete Kendall, Mike Powers, DiCosmo...
Not sure if Burton is a top 10.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby eagle33 on Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:00 am

HJS wrote:
Mike_S wrote:Just read the ESPN.com article on this (https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... on-college).


From the article: “ The Eagles now have 18 total commitments in the class and two four-stars with Burton and defensive tackle Andre Porter.”

Porter is only a 2-star player on Rivals: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/ ... ter-235896
This is very confusing for the epstein agenda.


porter is a si dc area all-america candidate. interesting - he missed his jr year due to academic issues.

https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/football/andre-porter-highlights-evaluation
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby StratEagle on Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:13 am

Trevin Wallace picked up an Oklahoma offer. Gonna be a battle.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby NJM89 on Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:32 pm

Arizona State has now offered both our DT commits in the past week.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:49 am

lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:40 am

claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:50 am

HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby NJM89 on Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:39 am

McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:58 am

NJM89 wrote:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


Who?
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:11 am

NJM89 wrote:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


New staff did not want him.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:19 am

So McGowan is the only recruit from the previous staff. Hm.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:42 am

NJM89 wrote:McCain is no more. Dont blame him when we picked up three CB recruits after him that seem to be more highly rated especially with the 4star in the mix now


seems like he's heading to old dominion
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:37 pm

according to 247, class is now scored as third highest in the past 10 years:

2021 0.8505*
2020 0.8529
2019 0.8514
2018 0.8365
2017 0.8263
2016 0.8181
2015 0.8343
2014 0.8271
2013 0.8098
2012 0.8186
2011 0.8329
2010 0.8453


* the K scored as a 0.77 is the only reason this isn't statistically the highest ranked class by far in the past ten years.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby Eaglekeeper on Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:03 pm

The lowest ranked player is the most important position of need next to QB. It just shows you what a fucking moron Daz was is not recruiting the two positions that account for the most points on game day! I really believe Daz thinks the teams with the most first downs wins!

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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby OCs_Inner_Eagle on Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:55 am

hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby Corporal Funishment on Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:08 am

OCs_Inner_Eagle wrote:
hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:26 am

Corporal Funishment wrote:
OCs_Inner_Eagle wrote:
hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits


But only 2 that had committed to JH.
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Re: 2021 Recruiting Thread

Postby OCs_Inner_Eagle on Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:41 am

DomingoOrtiz wrote:
Corporal Funishment wrote:
OCs_Inner_Eagle wrote:
hansen wrote:
HJS wrote:
claver2010 wrote:lead hip fluidity evaluator at 247 predicted virginia ATH Jamareeh Jones to BC. offers from wv, maryland, unc, nd, pitt, tennessee & vandy.

being recruited as a wr.

how many wr's have we had recently that had sec offers?

Someone thinks there is a flag that UVA didn’t offer.


Are people really still on the Hafley-and-staff-cant-identify-good-talent ship? I would have thought that ship had sailed based on the number of big name schools trying to poach our talent?


Agreed. We can all envision numerous Power-5 HCs and RCs holding recruiting meetings with their staffs and saying: "Pfft. You think I care that kid is committed to [i]Boston College!!??? That's not like trying to yank him from Clemson or Alabama or someone. Go get him.[/i]"

It will be stressful trying to keep these guys on-board, but I'd rather be in this position. Over time that will diminish as schools learn BC commits are solid rather than just locking in a spot while they search for something "better".


we've had multiple decommits


But only 2 that had committed to JH.


Right. Many decommits happen as better prospects commit, and the lower-rated commit decides he has a better chance at PT elsewhere. Available PT was surely a key factor in Burton's decommitment from UF to us.
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