Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby hawaiirob on Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:31 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:for all those saying “if only wade brown hadn’t gotten hurt, we would have won that game...” what did brown really do before getting hurt to show that to be the case? was it the kick return for a touchdown?

I agree perry was clown shoes, but brown wasn’t exactly marching down the field either

He was in for 6 plays and had a huge pass that the refs called dead because Clemson wasn’t ready yet. Rejoice TRE (et al). You have your wish and desired starter

Anyway. Last I heard is that it isn’t collarbone or shoulder... it is an organ injury and likely career ending. Sounds like this is a serious health situation and something folks should be praying on a recovery (instead of giddily sniping about cesspools and broadsides of barns).

That is a real shame. For all the shit he took on here AB seems like a great kid and hard worker. Hoping he gets back out there without too much damage


This. Brown has real offers and has talent, though very raw. Because of his injury last year, he didn’t get s full year to develop. He’s essentially played only one year of college football.

Perry had offers from nowhere. Based on the high school tape and the leagues they played in, I can’t fathom why McDonald is behind Perry.

Because McDonald wasn’t even a starter in high school. Perry and McDonald were recruited with McQuarrie. This was a spaghetti-against-the-wall strategy after missing out on Tommy DeVito (Bosco to Cuse).


McDonald was a starter. He transferred after being injured and losing the spot to JT Daniels and then threw for 39 TDS as a senior. Utah was close to offering and before his transfer he had looks from a lot of the baby rapists. I’m not saying he’s amazing but he’s definitely better than Perry.


For the record, McDonald was a starter twice in high school - for two damn good programs. First, as a junior at Mater Dei, which might be year-in-year-out the best high school football program in the nation - not an easy job to win. Early in his junior year, he broke his non-throwing arm and was replaced by JT Barrett. Then, to get playing time and the requisite film, transferred to Mission Viejo, where he had a damn good senior year, with only one-year in that program.

Ridiculous he is behind Perry on the depth chart. Jesus, with AJ, all this team needs is a guy to keep defenses honest with a solid and accurate passing game. That guy is buried on the bench behind two guys with lesser arms in every sense of the word. And it's not like either guy is Mike Vick or V Young, so I don't see any relevance to athleticism/dual threat stuff.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby Onyx Blackman on Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:32 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:BTW.... this is thread from the Clemson board on AB.
https://www.tigernet.com/forum/thread/A ... al-1850655

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby angrychicken on Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:58 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:all this team needs is a guy to keep defenses honest with a solid and accurate passing game.

This is true.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby 2001Eagle on Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:10 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:for all those saying “if only wade brown hadn’t gotten hurt, we would have won that game...” what did brown really do before getting hurt to show that to be the case? was it the kick return for a touchdown?

I agree perry was clown shoes, but brown wasn’t exactly marching down the field either

He was in for 6 plays and had a huge pass that the refs called dead because Clemson wasn’t ready yet. Rejoice TRE (et al). You have your wish and desired starter

Anyway. Last I heard is that it isn’t collarbone or shoulder... it is an organ injury and likely career ending. Sounds like this is a serious health situation and something folks should be praying on a recovery (instead of giddily sniping about cesspools and broadsides of barns).

That is a real shame. For all the shit he took on here AB seems like a great kid and hard worker. Hoping he gets back out there without too much damage


This. Brown has real offers and has talent, though very raw. Because of his injury last year, he didn’t get s full year to develop. He’s essentially played only one year of college football.

Perry had offers from nowhere. Based on the high school tape and the leagues they played in, I can’t fathom why McDonald is behind Perry.

Because McDonald wasn’t even a starter in high school. Perry and McDonald were recruited with McQuarrie. This was a spaghetti-against-the-wall strategy after missing out on Tommy DeVito (Bosco to Cuse).


McDonald was a starter. He transferred after being injured and losing the spot to JT Daniels and then threw for 39 TDS as a senior. Utah was close to offering and before his transfer he had looks from a lot of the baby rapists. I’m not saying he’s amazing but he’s definitely better than Perry.


For the record, McDonald was a starter twice in high school - for two damn good programs. First, as a junior at Mater Dei, which might be year-in-year-out the best high school football program in the nation - not an easy job to win. Early in his junior year, he broke his non-throwing arm and was replaced by JT Barrett. Then, to get playing time and the requisite film, transferred to Mission Viejo, where he had a damn good senior year, with only one-year in that program.

Ridiculous he is behind Perry on the depth chart. Jesus, with AJ, all this team needs is a guy to keep defenses honest with a solid and accurate passing game. That guy is buried on the bench behind two guys with lesser arms in every sense of the word. And it's not like either guy is Mike Vick or V Young, so I don't see any relevance to athleticism/dual threat stuff.


Yup. I guess there’s at least two of us in this camp. I’d be shocked however if anyone other than EJ “quinton” Perry takes a snap at QB these next two games.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby hawaiirob on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:00 pm

Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby flakes on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:17 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:for all those saying “if only wade brown hadn’t gotten hurt, we would have won that game...” what did brown really do before getting hurt to show that to be the case? was it the kick return for a touchdown?

I agree perry was clown shoes, but brown wasn’t exactly marching down the field either

He was in for 6 plays and had a huge pass that the refs called dead because Clemson wasn’t ready yet. Rejoice TRE (et al). You have your wish and desired starter

Anyway. Last I heard is that it isn’t collarbone or shoulder... it is an organ injury and likely career ending. Sounds like this is a serious health situation and something folks should be praying on a recovery (instead of giddily sniping about cesspools and broadsides of barns).

That is a real shame. For all the shit he took on here AB seems like a great kid and hard worker. Hoping he gets back out there without too much damage


This. Brown has real offers and has talent, though very raw. Because of his injury last year, he didn’t get s full year to develop. He’s essentially played only one year of college football.

Perry had offers from nowhere. Based on the high school tape and the leagues they played in, I can’t fathom why McDonald is behind Perry.

Because McDonald wasn’t even a starter in high school. Perry and McDonald were recruited with McQuarrie. This was a spaghetti-against-the-wall strategy after missing out on Tommy DeVito (Bosco to Cuse).


McDonald was a starter. He transferred after being injured and losing the spot to JT Daniels and then threw for 39 TDS as a senior. Utah was close to offering and before his transfer he had looks from a lot of the baby rapists. I’m not saying he’s amazing but he’s definitely better than Perry.


For the record, McDonald was a starter twice in high school - for two damn good programs. First, as a junior at Mater Dei, which might be year-in-year-out the best high school football program in the nation - not an easy job to win. Early in his junior year, he broke his non-throwing arm and was replaced by JT Barrett. Then, to get playing time and the requisite film, transferred to Mission Viejo, where he had a damn good senior year, with only one-year in that program.

Ridiculous he is behind Perry on the depth chart. Jesus, with AJ, all this team needs is a guy to keep defenses honest with a solid and accurate passing game. That guy is buried on the bench behind two guys with lesser arms in every sense of the word. And it's not like either guy is Mike Vick or V Young, so I don't see any relevance to athleticism/dual threat stuff.


Yup. I guess there’s at least two of us in this camp. I’d be shocked however if anyone other than EJ “quinton” Perry takes a snap at QB these next two games.


Agree...cannot believe in any way that Perry is better than McDonald. It's baffling. He looked like a scared child. His helmet was covering his goddamn eyes. He should never see the field. My bigger issue is that we have no idea how to recruit QBs. I know no one wants to come here to hand the ball off 40 times a game anyway...
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby hansen on Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:54 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.


Maybe he is still learning the playbook? Or trouble reading collegiate defensive schemes which are surely more complicated than what he faced in HS?
I honestly thought he would be the backup this year (and even challenge as the starter) and I'm surprised that he has\ not given his HS success. Maybe he will get a chance to play this weekend if Brown is out.

If Brown is out, Best case scenario is we blow out FSU early and then he gets snaps to show what he can do.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby DuchesneEast on Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:41 pm

The fact that BC couldn't recruit a quality QB after Matt Ryan is an epic fail.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:22 pm

DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:The fact that BC couldn't recruit a quality QB after Matt Ryan is an epic fail.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby claver2010 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:29 pm

daz fired up about the missed opportunity of a healthy anthony against clemson. called the TO that negated the post to jeff smith 'phantom TO that came from somewhere'. 'we have back to back first downs with jeff splitting their safeties and next play anthony gets knocked out'

was getting pretty worked up before changing the subject to tallahassee & fsu with a belichick line

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby 2001Eagle on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:20 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.


Almost every one of the big time programs showed interest in McDonald before his injury (largely because they do that for Mater Dei starters) but the comparison against Perry is stark. Perry’s offers were brown, Dartmouth,
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:24 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:daz fired up about the missed opportunity of a healthy anthony against clemson. called the TO that negated the post to jeff smith 'phantom TO that came from somewhere'. 'we have back to back first downs with jeff splitting their safeties and next play anthony gets knocked out'

was getting pretty worked up before changing the subject to tallahassee & fsu with a belichick line

https://tunein.com/radio/Boston-College ... k-s230303/


Dabo called TO right in the refs face but they never showed a split screen with the snap to see if it was before the snap or not. Very frustrating turn of events for sure.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby BC923 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:44 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:daz fired up about the missed opportunity of a healthy anthony against clemson. called the TO that negated the post to jeff smith 'phantom TO that came from somewhere'. 'we have back to back first downs with jeff splitting their safeties and next play anthony gets knocked out'

was getting pretty worked up before changing the subject to tallahassee & fsu with a belichick line

https://tunein.com/radio/Boston-College ... k-s230303/


Dabo called TO right in the refs face but they never showed a split screen with the snap to see if it was before the snap or not. Very frustrating turn of events for sure.

All I know is that the whistle happened 2 or 3 seconds after the snap. He may have been trying to get it off before that, but still feels like bullshit to me. Whether Daz would have given us a chance or not, AB wasn't getting hurt right then if they gave us that first down.

Same sort of weird thing happened on that Clemson false start where they let the play go and we got a sack IIRC.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby hawaiirob on Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:35 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.


Maybe he is still learning the playbook? Or trouble reading collegiate defensive schemes which are surely more complicated than what he faced in HS?
I honestly thought he would be the backup this year (and even challenge as the starter) and I'm surprised that he has\ not given his HS success. Maybe he will get a chance to play this weekend if Brown is out.

If Brown is out, Best case scenario is we blow out FSU early and then he gets snaps to show what he can do.


The likely issue as far as I can tell is that the playbook is geared for "dual threat" QBs. Since AB is the anointed one in the mold of Tebow, Murphy, J. Smith, Towles and the other cast of "dual threats" that Daz has rolled out...it would make sense that the back up is also a "dual threat." Heck, it is debatable what would happen if McD got into a game with real live bullets. No player on our team has ever had a QB that could actually throw - and experienced the play calling for such a QB. Our o-line has never gotten into the real swing of pass blocking, our running backs have never benefited from a reliable downfield passing game (or any passing game), our WRs have never run routes thinking they had a shot on 3rd and 10. What we've had over the bulk of the last 10 years is a total joke. We're generally like a worse version of Navy or Georgia Tech - but with a better defense, which is forced to play double time because our terrible offense gets 3 and outs ultra fast due to our hurry-up no offense. What a disaster.

Out of these aforementioned guys, is there truly one dual threat QB? Some damn good runners on that list. But nobody who can throw a lick. Like not a f'ing lick. The reality is that Daz could not possibly care any less about the "throw game." He is impressed by runners and athletic measurable types. There is no other explanation. The confusing part is that he has trotted out AB despite him being basically no threat to run - understandable following the knee injury - and a questionable arm (being nice at HJS request). So we've played this year- a year with our most potential in the last 10 - with a "dual threat" QB coming off a season ending knee injury with an iffy arm. My only guess on why this could be is that AB is the unquestioned leader in the locker room - which is a big tip of the hat the person he must be.

Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. I don't know if McD is the answer...he is a pro-style QB and we are not that program - anymore. Sad. So honestly, it really might not matter if we blow out FSU early. By the way, we're not blowing out FSU early.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby BC923 on Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:47 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.


Maybe he is still learning the playbook? Or trouble reading collegiate defensive schemes which are surely more complicated than what he faced in HS?
I honestly thought he would be the backup this year (and even challenge as the starter) and I'm surprised that he has\ not given his HS success. Maybe he will get a chance to play this weekend if Brown is out.

If Brown is out, Best case scenario is we blow out FSU early and then he gets snaps to show what he can do.


The likely issue as far as I can tell is that the playbook is geared for "dual threat" QBs. Since AB is the anointed one in the mold of Tebow, Murphy, J. Smith, Towles and the other cast of "dual threats" that Daz has rolled out...it would make sense that the back up is also a "dual threat." Heck, it is debatable what would happen if McD got into a game with real live bullets. No player on our team has ever had a QB that could actually throw - and experienced the play calling for such a QB. Our o-line has never gotten into the real swing of pass blocking, our running backs have never benefited from a reliable downfield passing game (or any passing game), our WRs have never run routes thinking they had a shot on 3rd and 10. What we've had over the bulk of the last 10 years is a total joke. We're generally like a worse version of Navy or Georgia Tech - but with a better defense, which is forced to play double time because our terrible offense gets 3 and outs ultra fast due to our hurry-up no offense. What a disaster.

Out of these aforementioned guys, is there truly one dual threat QB? Some damn good runners on that list. But nobody who can throw a lick. Like not a f'ing lick. The reality is that Daz could not possibly care any less about the "throw game." He is impressed by runners and athletic measurable types. There is no other explanation. The confusing part is that he has trotted out AB despite him being basically no threat to run - understandable following the knee injury - and a questionable arm (being nice at HJS request). So we've played this year- a year with our most potential in the last 10 - with a "dual threat" QB coming off a season ending knee injury with an iffy arm. My only guess on why this could be is that AB is the unquestioned leader in the locker room - which is a big tip of the hat the person he must be.

Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. I don't know if McD is the answer...he is a pro-style QB and we are not that program - anymore. Sad. So honestly, it really might not matter if we blow out FSU early. By the way, we're not blowing out FSU early.

My impression has been that AB is a leader for the team, part of the reason why I root for him even if he hasn't really done it on the field.

I do think he has the arm strength to be a good QB, if we had a coach interested in developing QBs, but it's pretty clear that QBs are not a Daz priority. Combined with his injury keeping him out of a crucial offseason for development, I don't think AB will reach his potential here, which is a shame given the type of kid he is.

All this also worries me with the kid we're bringing in from Michigan. He seems like he's got all the tools, but needs a good deal of coaching. I'm not sure Daz is capable or interested in providing that
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby flakes on Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:24 pm

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Would not be the first time New England provincialism prevailed within the BC program. As they say for ladies, an LA 7 is a Boston 10. And for QBs, a SoCal 8+ is better than a Mass 7 or whatever. And yes, if you start for Mater Dei you are that good. Maybe Flutie is pissed that McD played for Rob Johnson at Mission Viejo? Who the hell knows.

The QB situation at BC is abhorrent and has been for the better part of 10 years. Shame on all involved. Gene, Bates, Spaz, Daz. Really sad. BC had a real chance to do something special on Sat night. The campus shined, the students shined, alums turned out in droves, the D played a very good game, we got the special teams TD, the school even got it right with the throw back unis..so many things lined up. It was a good damn scene. Another lost opportunity. And it starts and ends with the QB situation. From a school that has zero excuse not to have a strong stable of QBs. Just shameful.


Maybe he is still learning the playbook? Or trouble reading collegiate defensive schemes which are surely more complicated than what he faced in HS?
I honestly thought he would be the backup this year (and even challenge as the starter) and I'm surprised that he has\ not given his HS success. Maybe he will get a chance to play this weekend if Brown is out.

If Brown is out, Best case scenario is we blow out FSU early and then he gets snaps to show what he can do.


The likely issue as far as I can tell is that the playbook is geared for "dual threat" QBs. Since AB is the anointed one in the mold of Tebow, Murphy, J. Smith, Towles and the other cast of "dual threats" that Daz has rolled out...it would make sense that the back up is also a "dual threat." Heck, it is debatable what would happen if McD got into a game with real live bullets. No player on our team has ever had a QB that could actually throw - and experienced the play calling for such a QB. Our o-line has never gotten into the real swing of pass blocking, our running backs have never benefited from a reliable downfield passing game (or any passing game), our WRs have never run routes thinking they had a shot on 3rd and 10. What we've had over the bulk of the last 10 years is a total joke. We're generally like a worse version of Navy or Georgia Tech - but with a better defense, which is forced to play double time because our terrible offense gets 3 and outs ultra fast due to our hurry-up no offense. What a disaster.

Out of these aforementioned guys, is there truly one dual threat QB? Some damn good runners on that list. But nobody who can throw a lick. Like not a f'ing lick. The reality is that Daz could not possibly care any less about the "throw game." He is impressed by runners and athletic measurable types. There is no other explanation. The confusing part is that he has trotted out AB despite him being basically no threat to run - understandable following the knee injury - and a questionable arm (being nice at HJS request). So we've played this year- a year with our most potential in the last 10 - with a "dual threat" QB coming off a season ending knee injury with an iffy arm. My only guess on why this could be is that AB is the unquestioned leader in the locker room - which is a big tip of the hat the person he must be.

Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. I don't know if McD is the answer...he is a pro-style QB and we are not that program - anymore. Sad. So honestly, it really might not matter if we blow out FSU early. By the way, we're not blowing out FSU early.


I don’t know what our QB recruiting philosophy is...we have Velecce and McDonald who are true dropbacks (as is the kid from Michigan) yet we run some weird dual threat style offense where there is no chance of throwing the ball downfield. It is truly a coach that has no clue what he’s doing.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby HJS on Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:40 am

There is some crazy revisionist history going on here. Perry was recruited by MAC and Ivies. That’s true. But, that represented significantly more interest than McDonald mustered. Despite being on the radar for a long time and starting at a respected Mission Viejo program, EVERYONE took a hard pass. Our offer a week before signing day was a lifeline for the kid. I was glad we did it, but this was no Uber-recruit who Daz has been stubbornly avoiding. This was a major project/insurance policy. https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/23/f ... ege-offer/

As for AB, he has always been a passer who can run. Even last year, he was very tentative to run. But, as the year went by, he grew more comfortable. When he did run, it was a thing of beauty (and it opened up his passing). This year, his running is ugly and slow (so he hasn’t done much). While his accuracy leaves much to be desired, everyone downplays his greatest asset... decision making. He has done a very good job leading the team in and out of the huddle (no small feat with an unhinged Daz on the sideline). He routinely makes the right audible and read (be it to the open receiver or in an RPO). All in all, he has been an effective game manager. And, from a recruiting perspective, he is the only one that had actual Power 5 offers (outside of the young kids who haven’t entered the conversation: Valecce, Langham and Johnson). Do you want to say we should have better QB talent in Year 6... fine. But, that doesn’t mean the Pop Warner backups should be seeing time because no one could be worse than Chris Crane (their mere roster presence goes to the validity of the previous sentence).

Finally... I’m confused about AB’s status. You don’t stay in the hospital for 36+ hours and take practice reps to play versus FSU. Daz always lies about his players’ health to throw the other staff off. But, there is no way he could say what he did yesterday if the kid had a splenectomy. I guess, it is possible, that it was a lacerated/bruised spleen that was medicated and monitored to make sure it didn’t rupture. That would be great news for AB’s ability long term. But, he sure as shit shouldn’t be flying to Tallahassee in a desperate attempt to crack the 7-win glass ceiling. Unlike Dillon’s high ankle sprain where playing doesn’t enhance further injury, I don’t think the same is true of a damaged organ.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby angrychicken on Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:50 am

HJS {l Wrote}:There is some crazy revisionist history going on here.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby HJS on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:24 am

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:26 am

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:36 am

hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. .



Very true HR, and sad.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby HJS on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:19 am

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. .



Very true HR, and sad.

For college, Tebow over Brady is the correct call.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby Corporal Funishment on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:20 am

I think Daz would start Brady, but then have him hand it off 50 times a game and only allow him to throw 2 yard out routes on 3rd and 5
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:26 am

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:I think Daz would start Brady, but then have him hand it off 50 times a game and only allow him to throw 2 yard out routes on 3rd and 5


They did kind of win the first couple super bowls doing that.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:26 am

HJS {l Wrote}:Because McDonald wasn’t even a starter in high school.


Just gonna leave this here to show how wrong HJS is/was. Schools don’t recruit on senior tape. Spots are filled and the two next recruiting cycles are in full swing. It may be that Daz stumbled into a decent qb recruit but that doesn’t change how stupid it is to stick with Perry.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:28 am

HJS {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
hawaiirob {l Wrote}:Daz would start Tebow over Tom Brady. This is our problem. .



Very true HR, and sad.

For college, Tebow over Brady is the correct call.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby claver2010 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:35 am

HJS {l Wrote}:There is some crazy revisionist history going on here. Perry was recruited by MAC and Ivies. That’s true. But, that represented significantly more interest than McDonald mustered. Despite being on the radar for a long time and starting at a respected Mission Viejo program, EVERYONE took a hard pass. Our offer a week before signing day was a lifeline for the kid. I was glad we did it, but this was no Uber-recruit who Daz has been stubbornly avoiding. This was a major project/insurance policy. https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/23/f ... ege-offer/

As for AB, he has always been a passer who can run. Even last year, he was very tentative to run. But, as the year went by, he grew more comfortable. When he did run, it was a thing of beauty (and it opened up his passing). This year, his running is ugly and slow (so he hasn’t done much). While his accuracy leaves much to be desired, everyone downplays his greatest asset... decision making. He has done a very good job leading the team in and out of the huddle (no small feat with an unhinged Daz on the sideline). He routinely makes the right audible and read (be it to the open receiver or in an RPO). All in all, he has been an effective game manager. And, from a recruiting perspective, he is the only one that had actual Power 5 offers (outside of the young kids who haven’t entered the conversation: Valecce, Langham and Johnson). Do you want to say we should have better QB talent in Year 6... fine. But, that doesn’t mean the Pop Warner backups should be seeing time because no one could be worse than Chris Crane (their mere roster presence goes to the validity of the previous sentence).

Finally... I’m confused about AB’s status. You don’t stay in the hospital for 36+ hours and take practice reps to play versus FSU. Daz always lies about his players’ health to throw the other staff off. But, there is no way he could say what he did yesterday if the kid had a splenectomy. I guess, it is possible, that it was a lacerated/bruised spleen that was medicated and monitored to make sure it didn’t rupture. That would be great news for AB’s ability long term. But, he sure as shit shouldn’t be flying to Tallahassee in a desperate attempt to crack the 7-win glass ceiling. Unlike Dillon’s high ankle sprain where playing doesn’t enhance further injury, I don’t think the same is true of a damaged organ.


As usual, moj nails it.

I don't get the hate for Brown at all. BC has the 4th most efficient passing game in the ACC (looking only at conference games) behind Clemson, NC St, & VT. Is he the most accurate passer? Nope but only 4 teams have a higher completion % in ACC games. (http://theacc.com/stats.aspx?path=footb ... &conf=true)

I wouldn't read too much into what Daz said about Anthony's health.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby Corporal Funishment on Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:51 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:I think Daz would start Brady, but then have him hand it off 50 times a game and only allow him to throw 2 yard out routes on 3rd and 5


They did kind of win the first couple super bowls doing that.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby angrychicken on Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:09 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:There is some crazy revisionist history going on here. Perry was recruited by MAC and Ivies. That’s true. But, that represented significantly more interest than McDonald mustered. Despite being on the radar for a long time and starting at a respected Mission Viejo program, EVERYONE took a hard pass. Our offer a week before signing day was a lifeline for the kid. I was glad we did it, but this was no Uber-recruit who Daz has been stubbornly avoiding. This was a major project/insurance policy. https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/23/f ... ege-offer/

As for AB, he has always been a passer who can run. Even last year, he was very tentative to run. But, as the year went by, he grew more comfortable. When he did run, it was a thing of beauty (and it opened up his passing). This year, his running is ugly and slow (so he hasn’t done much). While his accuracy leaves much to be desired, everyone downplays his greatest asset... decision making. He has done a very good job leading the team in and out of the huddle (no small feat with an unhinged Daz on the sideline). He routinely makes the right audible and read (be it to the open receiver or in an RPO). All in all, he has been an effective game manager. And, from a recruiting perspective, he is the only one that had actual Power 5 offers (outside of the young kids who haven’t entered the conversation: Valecce, Langham and Johnson). Do you want to say we should have better QB talent in Year 6... fine. But, that doesn’t mean the Pop Warner backups should be seeing time because no one could be worse than Chris Crane (their mere roster presence goes to the validity of the previous sentence).

Finally... I’m confused about AB’s status. You don’t stay in the hospital for 36+ hours and take practice reps to play versus FSU. Daz always lies about his players’ health to throw the other staff off. But, there is no way he could say what he did yesterday if the kid had a splenectomy. I guess, it is possible, that it was a lacerated/bruised spleen that was medicated and monitored to make sure it didn’t rupture. That would be great news for AB’s ability long term. But, he sure as shit shouldn’t be flying to Tallahassee in a desperate attempt to crack the 7-win glass ceiling. Unlike Dillon’s high ankle sprain where playing doesn’t enhance further injury, I don’t think the same is true of a damaged organ.


As usual, moj nails it.

I don't get the hate for Brown at all. BC has the 4th most efficient passing game in the ACC (looking only at conference games) behind Clemson, NC St, & VT. Is he the most accurate passer? Nope but only 4 teams have a higher completion % in ACC games. (http://theacc.com/stats.aspx?path=footb ... &conf=true)

I wouldn't read too much into what Daz said about Anthony's health.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. the Clemson - 11/10/2018

Postby claver2010 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:44 am

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