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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby Tom Dooder on Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:57 pm

It’s pretty impressive how bad the defense is with this many future nfl draft picks on the roster.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:58 pm

Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:It’s pretty impressive how bad the defense is with this many future nfl draft picks on the roster.


This.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby eagletx on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:10 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
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BC923 {l Wrote}:The team is probably not as good as I thought, but the coaching just kneecaps them at every opportunity


Yeah, they're not good - made worse by a bunch of monkeys "coaching" this team.


They really aren't not good. It's the same team that rolled everyone away the end of last season. Unless you think Wade was the difference. Its 1000% philosophy and coaching. This team is unprepared, sloppy, and look disinterested.


The coaching deficiencies are a given. But at some point, you have to dial back on the "talent" argument when you see repetition of the same film loop game after game, on BOTH offense and defense.

They are in danger here...a real WTF loss after trying to nurse a 10 pt. lead going back to the 6 min. mark of the third quarter.


No you don't. It's the same players. This is all terrible coaching with injury excuses.


Yeah the team is pretty good, just not good enough to overcome whatever the fuck it is that Addazio does here


This. They aren't Clemson, they can't overcome a moron coach.


I guess it may depend in part how good you think Purdue and Temple really are. If they turn out to be .500 teams, then I think you can question the talent level. There is not a gimme the rest of the way based on whst I've seen.


BC didn't play the way they did last week because of talent. Making excuses. They're talented enough to win every game. They might get 8.


OK...whatever....your talent assessments clearly are based on factors that have yet to exhibit themselves on the field of play in now three games against opponents that most thought were gimmes this year.


They have an NFL running back that isn't running well against terrible teams. Im assuming that's playcalling and not that he lost his talent.


As long as you concede that the OL is part of that disguised talent pool you are touting. This OL has one thing going for it experience. But given the recent performance of the OL these past 3-4 years, under Addazio, simply assuming experience=talent or dominance is a stretch. In 3 games they have been less than stellar even with that NFL caliber running back. Now give me the 9 man in the box rag....then, watch them try and pull to the edge...or hold a block....slow, ambling, ineffective...
I agree violently that coaching is deficient. I simply am not willing to concede a superior talent argument, because like you have graded QBs even without significant in game experience, I am grading on what I've seen on the last three games everyone thought were sure Ws.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby LawyersGunsnMoney on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:14 pm

Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:It’s pretty impressive how bad the defense is with this many future nfl draft picks on the roster.

Pasqoulini did a great job with this defense. They miss him. Reid has passed his prime
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:18 pm

eagletx {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
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BC923 {l Wrote}:
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RegalBCeagle {l Wrote}:
BC923 {l Wrote}:The team is probably not as good as I thought, but the coaching just kneecaps them at every opportunity


Yeah, they're not good - made worse by a bunch of monkeys "coaching" this team.


They really aren't not good. It's the same team that rolled everyone away the end of last season. Unless you think Wade was the difference. Its 1000% philosophy and coaching. This team is unprepared, sloppy, and look disinterested.


The coaching deficiencies are a given. But at some point, you have to dial back on the "talent" argument when you see repetition of the same film loop game after game, on BOTH offense and defense.

They are in danger here...a real WTF loss after trying to nurse a 10 pt. lead going back to the 6 min. mark of the third quarter.


No you don't. It's the same players. This is all terrible coaching with injury excuses.


Yeah the team is pretty good, just not good enough to overcome whatever the fuck it is that Addazio does here


This. They aren't Clemson, they can't overcome a moron coach.


I guess it may depend in part how good you think Purdue and Temple really are. If they turn out to be .500 teams, then I think you can question the talent level. There is not a gimme the rest of the way based on whst I've seen.


BC didn't play the way they did last week because of talent. Making excuses. They're talented enough to win every game. They might get 8.


OK...whatever....your talent assessments clearly are based on factors that have yet to exhibit themselves on the field of play in now three games against opponents that most thought were gimmes this year.


They have an NFL running back that isn't running well against terrible teams. Im assuming that's playcalling and not that he lost his talent.


As long as you concede that the OL is part of that disguised talent pool you are touting. This OL has one thing going for it experience. But given the recent performance of the OL these past 3-4 years, under Addazio, simply assuming experience=talent or dominance is a stretch. In 3 games they have been less than stellar even with that NFL caliber running back. Now give me the 9 man in the box rag....then, watch them try and pull to the edge...or hold a block....slow, ambling, ineffective...
I agree violently that coaching is deficient. I simply am not willing to concede a superior talent argument, because like you have graded QBs even without significant in game experience, I am grading on what I've seen on the last three games everyone thought were sure Ws.


The o line was dominant last year. They're all back. I hate to say hjs is right but the line is playing poorly because they are running outside and that's dumb.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby ricosuave on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:35 pm

The line played poorly at the beginning of last season with Baker in the lineup. I think Petrula--Phillips was a better combo than what we're seeing this year.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:52 pm

Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:53 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.


The opposite of this.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby flakes on Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:09 pm

We have far more problems than playcalling (defense is really poor), but today was an exceptionally bizarre day for Loeffler
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:29 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.


The opposite of this.


How many of the bullet points did you have to read to come to that conclusion?
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:03 pm

Prepare to be dazzled:

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:06 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.


The opposite of this.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DuchesneEast on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:29 pm

5-7 or 6-6, and Daz is fired right? 7-5 again should get him fired if there is a viable alternative
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:37 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Imagine BC having an all-male step team named Sexual Chocolate that performs at halftime?

Cuz that just happened.


Were they all black?

No. Not even close.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:38 pm

Manny {l Wrote}:It appears there are approximately 15 more fans in attendance than there were at the six year old's soccer game I just watched. Great showing.


The stadium was emtpy at kickoff but was pretty full (but for the high endzone sections) midway through the 2ndQ. 85% of the :geek: left at halftime.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:43 pm

I don't understand why the coaches will call runs between he tackles for Glines but not Dillon.

Glines is a tough son of a bitch and I bet he's good in a street fight.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:54 pm

ricosuave {l Wrote}:Can we move Petrula back to center now? A hold on Baker then on 2nd down he loses his man and it flushes Brown.


So who plays RT?
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:00 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.


The opposite of this.


How many of the bullet points did you have to read to come to that conclusion?


None
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:01 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Yeah, they won. BFD. Initial thoughts (watching that whole game from beginning to end)

  • This is not a very good BC team. BC's players are just not any better than Temple's players no matter what we have bene irrationally wanting to believe
  • Temple outplayed BC today. Temple controlled the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense
  • The ONLY reason BC won, is because BC made more BIG PLAYS than Temple did (3 more BIG PLAYS in fact) and Temple had way too many penalties
  • The players have no reason to be happy about today (offense couldn't stay on the field, defense couldn't get off the field)

BC's high water mark (for this season) will be 8-4. That is the best they can do. They can not beat Clemson, Syracuse, or Miami. They can't. It's impossible. If they get super lucky against VPI and NCState (get more "big plays" than those teams) then maybe they win those games, and that is assuming that AJ Dillon is at least 90% next week. What is likely to happen is they split those two games and they wind up with yet another 7-5 season.


The opposite of this.


Lazy


Yes, that is the perfect word for your post, thanks.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby b0mberMan on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:02 pm

Real bummer we look like we’re going tthe squander a year when our conference is gettable. Not surprising but still
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:04 pm

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:Real bummer we look like we’re going tthe squander a year when our conference is gettable. Not surprising but still


Yup. This team could win the conference if they get their heads out of their asses. No chance they do.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby ricosuave on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:25 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ricosuave {l Wrote}:Can we move Petrula back to center now? A hold on Baker then on 2nd down he loses his man and it flushes Brown.


So who plays RT?


Phillips at RG. Lindstrom back to RT.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby NEUBCfan on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:41 pm

The play calling has been awful, specifically in the “throw game.” AJ averaged more per run than Brown did per pass attempt.

I have to say the fast tempo has to go. It’s having an impact across the board due to a lack of depth - especially on the lines. Time of possession isn’t a great indicator for this game. Check out the play charts https://bceagles.com/boxscore.aspx?path=football&id=15617

Time of possession per drive is gonna hurt your defense no matter how good and will kill your team if your lack depth on the defensive line as we do.

Let Brown take his time. Let AJ get more rest btw plays. Let the offensive line recover so they can pound defenders for AJ. Most importantly let the defense freaking recover so they can get you the ball back.

When you have the depth and utilize it (sub out AJ before you beat him down) as well as have a more experienced Brown, try the tempo game. Until then, slow it down to let your defense win games for you and be more effective per play on offfense

What’s the point of running more plays or running plays fast if you are executing at a dogshit level
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:44 pm

Keep tempo. Call better plays
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:47 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Imagine BC having an all-male step team named Sexual Chocolate that performs at halftime?

Cuz that just happened.


Were they all black?

No. Not even close.


That’s pretty fucked up then.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby NEUBCfan on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:53 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Keep tempo. Call better plays


How many true power running teams run high tempo? No sarcasm - I simply can’t think of any.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:58 pm

ricosuave {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ricosuave {l Wrote}:Can we move Petrula back to center now? A hold on Baker then on 2nd down he loses his man and it flushes Brown.


So who plays RT?

Lindstrom back to RT.


Where his pass blocking was terrible.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:03 pm

NEUBCfan {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Keep tempo. Call better plays


How many true power running teams run high tempo? No sarcasm - I simply can’t think of any.


The better plays part subsumes getting rid of the dumb fucking formations.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby MilitantEagle on Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:11 pm

The best part of the game was Longman taking over.

That was a long and painful game but the BC fans who left early are pathetic, yet not surprising. Even the Temple fans had more enthusiasm than the home crowd.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:33 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ricosuave {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ricosuave {l Wrote}:Can we move Petrula back to center now? A hold on Baker then on 2nd down he loses his man and it flushes Brown.


So who plays RT?

Lindstrom back to RT.


Where his pass blocking was terrible.


This

He created some big holes for Glines today at RG.
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