Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:58 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The problem is not that they play some zone, although I agree this team is more suited to play man with the pass rush they have. The problem is that they can't stop the run, which is perplexing.


Its not perplexing. Its shitty recruiting. Defensive ends great at getting to the QB do not stop the run up the middle.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:18 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The problem is not that they play some zone, although I agree this team is more suited to play man with the pass rush they have. The problem is that they can't stop the run, which is perplexing.


Its not perplexing. Its shitty recruiting. Defensive ends great at getting to the QB do not stop the run up the middle.

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So when they inevitably stop the run, will the recruiting be better? Blaming recruiting in isolation is trite, yet dumb.

Don't bother responding, too much on TV to get dumb listening to you rant about star rankings.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:05 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The problem is not that they play some zone, although I agree this team is more suited to play man with the pass rush they have. The problem is that they can't stop the run, which is perplexing.


Its not perplexing. Its shitty recruiting. Defensive ends great at getting to the QB do not stop the run up the middle.


what about all the defensive players drafted in the NFL while he's been here?
did these "bad" recruits suddenly become "good"?
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:17 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The problem is not that they play some zone, although I agree this team is more suited to play man with the pass rush they have. The problem is that they can't stop the run, which is perplexing.


Its not perplexing. Its shitty recruiting. Defensive ends great at getting to the QB do not stop the run up the middle.


what about all the defensive players drafted in the NFL while he's been here?
did these "bad" recruits suddenly become "good"?


Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby Corporal Funishment on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:12 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:21 pm

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


You mean the part where Brace and Raji were 2 star recruits? Or the part where BC was the best run defense because teams like Maryland and FSU with the immortal Charlie Weatherford were too busy throwing all over them because the moron Italian played cover two from the 4-3 on every down his entire time here? Or is it the part when the dumb shart that watched those games through boxscores while being cucked in the trailer after a long day getting bargains at Costco based an entire argument on a statistic that he read in the paper?
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:42 pm

Or was it the part that he didn't get any of the years right? Or was it the fact that they have been top 10 in rush defense three of the last four years?
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:06 am

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby ricosuave on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:20 am

Those Don Brown defenses were phenomenal against the run, the only game I can think of where we were gashed horribly like this past week was 2014 Pitt.

The issues with stopping the run began in earnest early last season (see Notre Dame).
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby HJS on Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:13 am

ricosuave {l Wrote}:Those Don Brown defenses were phenomenal against the run, the only game I can think of where we were gashed horribly like this past week was 2014 Pitt.

The issues with stopping the run began in earnest early last season (see Notre Dame).

But those Don Brown defenses were complete garbage against the pass. Again... it is like people didn't really watch Third Down Donnie Brown his 1st two years when he was the world's best QB coach (as he turned every QB he faced into a senior-year version of Matty Ice).
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby claver2010 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:33 am

he also had the ends of spaz;s classes with the likes of sean silvia and spencer rositano patrolling the secondary
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:23 am

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:25 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.

no - it appears 6-7/7-6 teams do too
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby claver2010 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:20 pm

finally able to watch game today

daz was right, that was a physical game
never liked dillon getting 80% of the carries. it's not sustainable. wish we would get levy involved more esp w the threat in passing game
don't think run blocking was as good as daz did until 2nd half where they started to exert will a little more. pass blocking looked good (though might;ve been result of everyone being surprised when we actually do pass)
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby ricosuave on Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:21 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
ricosuave {l Wrote}:Those Don Brown defenses were phenomenal against the run, the only game I can think of where we were gashed horribly like this past week was 2014 Pitt.

The issues with stopping the run began in earnest early last season (see Notre Dame).

But those Don Brown defenses were complete garbage against the pass. Again... it is like people didn't really watch Third Down Donnie Brown his 1st two years when he was the world's best QB coach (as he turned every QB he faced into a senior-year version of Matty Ice).


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:39 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.

no - it appears 6-7/7-6 teams do too


Yup, shart conveniently ignored that BC had a top 10 run defense 3 of the last 4 years, too. Must have been Spaz.
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:43 pm

i don't think shart is an accurate name for him. his underwears are likely all skid marked up, but that's just from an inability to clean past all those folds of fat with his stick and damp rag
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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:08 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.

no - it appears 6-7/7-6 teams do too


Yup, shart conveniently ignored that BC had a top 10 run defense 3 of the last 4 years, too. Must have been Spaz.


Teddy, 2006 and 2010. #1 in ALL of college football against the run. And I think they were #3 or #4 in 2008. Common denominator here is Spaz (and Toby's recruits.)

Look I don't give a shit about any of the past. I want to win now. You want to win now. We want to win now. Just don't bullshit me and give us lawyer's answer saying that it is "perplexing" that they can't stop the run. Fuck you Teddy and your perplexing. These interior tackles are not good (and neither are the linebackers.) They are not good because Addazio is a shit-recruiter. The front seven's overall lack of performance against the run is what makes the two defensive ends look so spectacular against the pass, its because they are the only two (of the seven) performing defensively. And because the two defensive ends are ALL that Addazio has for the front seven, they are never allowed to leave the field when the defense can't get OFF the field.

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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby hansen on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:17 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.

no - it appears 6-7/7-6 teams do too


Yup, shart conveniently ignored that BC had a top 10 run defense 3 of the last 4 years, too. Must have been Spaz.


Teddy, 2006 and 2010. #1 in ALL of college football against the run. And I think they were #3 or #4 in 2008. Common denominator here is Spaz (and Toby's recruits.)

Look I don't give a shit about any of the past. I want to win now. You want to win now. We want to win now. Just don't bullshit me and give us lawyer's answer saying that it is "perplexing" that they can't stop the run. Fuck you Teddy and your perplexing. These interior tackles are not good (and neither are the linebackers.) They are not good because Addazio is a shit-recruiter. The front seven's overall lack of performance against the run is what makes the two defensive ends look so spectacular against the pass, its because they are the only two (of the seven) performing defensively. And because the two defensive ends are ALL that Addazio has for the front seven, they are never allowed to leave the field when the defense can't get OFF the field.

Fuck everything else.


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Re: Official Gameday Thead - BC vs. Temple - 9/29/2018

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:51 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
Defensive tackles?

There were two seasons when Boston College had the #1 defense in the country against the run, 2006 and (I believe) 2010. These were all Toby and Jagodzinski recruits. And even in 2008 (Ron Brace and BJ Raji) they were incredible against the run (once again, Toby recruits.) But twice in the last 12 years, #1 defense in the country against the run. When Spaz was running the defense (or even as a head coach) we got it done, and got it done against the run-happy ACC I might add.

Today? With 5 straight recruiting classes that are ranked dead last in the ACC? Ha. Nope. That is unless you are under the delusion that Temple and Wake Forest are these powerhouse teams with unstoppable rushing attacks. I am not under that delusion.


I'm quoting this because I don't feel like pointing out everything wrong with it, but I also don't want him to be able to delete it before someone else rips it to shreds


No.

You are quoting it because you know its true and you want someone else to do your dirty work of trying to "argue against it." Apparently you are too "pussy" to "nut up" and admit that I have a point and you would rather suck Teddy's dick.

Are you going to dispute that BC had the #1 defense in ALL of college football (against the run) TWICE? You know that they did. You know. I know it. And I know that Addazio had no part of it. But Spaz had a hand in it. TWICE. Two fucking times CF.

I am sick and tired of you guys making excuses for these kids.


Only 8-4 teams talk about their run defense title.

no - it appears 6-7/7-6 teams do too


Yup, shart conveniently ignored that BC had a top 10 run defense 3 of the last 4 years, too. Must have been Spaz.


Teddy, 2006 and 2010. #1 in ALL of college football against the run. And I think they were #3 or #4 in 2008. Common denominator here is Spaz (and Toby's recruits.)

Look I don't give a shit about any of the past. I want to win now. You want to win now. We want to win now. Just don't bullshit me and give us lawyer's answer saying that it is "perplexing" that they can't stop the run. Fuck you Teddy and your perplexing. These interior tackles are not good (and neither are the linebackers.) They are not good because Addazio is a shit-recruiter. The front seven's overall lack of performance against the run is what makes the two defensive ends look so spectacular against the pass, its because they are the only two (of the seven) performing defensively. And because the two defensive ends are ALL that Addazio has for the front seven, they are never allowed to leave the field when the defense can't get OFF the field.

Fuck everything else.


Top 10 run D 3 of last 4. Sorry it's not number one. Your stats are dumb.
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