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gallopingghost {l Wrote}:
Paul Peterson just started as head coach at Snow this year. It will be interesting to see how he does. If Daz gets fired after 2019, he would have two years under his belt.

He'd need to come in and be an OC or something first, but his team definitely knows how to score. 4/5 games at 56+ points https://snowbadgers.com/schedule.aspx?path=football&

Lead Kindly Light {l Wrote}:If I were AD I'd fix basketball first, or do both together. 2 recruits can rebuild a basketball program. Easy peasy, relatively speaking.

CANDIDATES 2018

Obvious Home Run Hire: Chip Kelly

The remaining options seem to fall into 2 categories… retreads (generally low-floor/low-ceiling) and up-and-comers (generally high-risk/high-reward).

Retreads
Greg Schiano
Les Miles
Troy Calhoun
Bob Stoops
Charlie Strong
Lane Kiffin
Wayne Fontes
Al Golden
Tom Coughlin
Mike London
Mark Helfrich
Frank Solich
Ken Niumatalolo
Randy Shannon
Josh McDaniels
Jim Tressel
Bo Pellini
Brady Hoke
Butch Davis
Turner Gill
Bobby Wilder
Jeff Jagodzinski
Any of the “Hot Seat” NFL coaches (like BOB)
Any of the “Hot Seat” college coaches (like Sumlin)

Up-and-coming
Scott Frost
Joe Moorhead
HCRD
Neal Brown
Brent Venables
Brian Flores
Pete Carmichael Jr.
Mike Reed
Al Washington
Greg Roman
Matt Patricia
Sean Ryan
Dennis Allen
Mike Vrabel
Pep Hamilton
Tim Drevno
Mike Norvell
Chad Morris
Mario Cristobal
Tee Martin
Jason Candle
Frank Wilson
Dave Aranda

Barring a stars aligning event that lands BOB or Chip (ain't gonna happen), you have to make a decision on which avenue you are going to take in 2018. Do you (a) "stay within the family" with an assistant from the failed staffs of Spaz or Daz, (b) do you hire a retread or (c) do you hire a young up-and-comer trying to grab a few good years before they move on to bigger and better things.

For me, (a) is a nonstarter. I don't want anything to do with the taint of an assistant of one of these buffoons. A perceived up-and-comer carries significant risk. Those guys fail miserably more often than they succeed. If you are certain that you have the next Tom Herman, you absolutely pull the trigger. But, I have no faith that a BC administration who just hired Spaz and Daz (and Don and JC) is capable of magically tapping the next rising star.

One thing that is important about the next hire is that it should be clear that this isn't what is viewed as a final destination. Assistants and head coaches do best when they are striving for something. TOB's and Jag's first staffs were hungry and thought they were hitching a ride to an upwardly mobile coach. Out next coach should be viewed similarly.

I prefer a retread, followed by a rising NFL assistant.

But, if you are going to pretend that BC is going to cut a $10mm check to send a tenured gym teacher off into retirement, then they won't be able to spend ANYTHING on the next coach. This is a school who still can't find someone to donate $5mm to put their name on the IPF. It's folly to think they have the financial wherewithal to eat a $10mm buyout. Nonetheless, if believing in Santa keeps folks from offing themselves... so be it.

A realistic name that would be uber cheap and would jump at the job is Neal Brown. Super young... Umass grad... runs a funky O... is crushing it at Troy... played Clemson very tough.

HJS {l Wrote}:...This would not be terribly dissimilar to the team Jags received...

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bill O'Brien will be available soon. At least he'll improve the throw game.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Bill O'Brien will be available soon. At least he'll improve the throw game.

3. Texans' Bill O'Brien
Yes, the Texans beat the Cowboys on Sunday to push their record to 2-3, but the manner in which they won shouldn't inspire much confidence. Despite out-gaining the Cowboys by 170 yards, they only won when Garrett bailed them out by punting in overtime. Even then, it required a miraculous catch and run by DeAndre Hopkins to get the Texans into field-goal range.

The way O'Brien handled the team's red zone trips is especially concerning. They went 1 of 6 in the red zone, and the play-calls included sweeping runs with Deshaun Watson, who is coming off a torn ACL. Watson took an absolute pounding.

Last year, O'Brien's excuse was legitimate: They had no healthy players. This year, everyone is healthy, from Watson to J.J. Watt to Whitney Mercilus. O'Brien is out of excuses. This team is nowhere close to becoming a playoff contender. If the Texans miss the playoffs again, it wouldn't be surprising to see them move in a different direction. O'Brien is 33-36 as the Texans' coach and while he's made the playoffs twice, he's never won more than nine games in a season.

HJS {l Wrote}:

Lead Kindly Light {l Wrote}:If I were AD I'd fix basketball first, or do both together. 2 recruits can rebuild a basketball program. Easy peasy, relatively speaking.

I agree. JC hasn't really done anything other than hire Spinelli (who has landed some nice recruits). I think faith and patience in JC is wholy unwarranted. That said, BB is Jarmond's sport. It is the area where he's at risk of becoming Coach Flip. He and his folks have been out there publicly supporting the direction of the BB program. In the same conversations, they've taken a critical/speculative stance as it relates to Daz (who I think objectively done a significantly better job). Now... they could be reading the room and just preaching to the choir (which is all salesmen really ever do). But, I have generally been surprised at the lack of public pressure on the BB front. Perhaps, the trainwreck that is NCAA BB has cooled BC's willingness to "dive out the window" into the dirtiest cesspool in the neighborhood.

HJS {l Wrote}:

Lead Kindly Light {l Wrote}:If I were AD I'd fix basketball first, or do both together. 2 recruits can rebuild a basketball program. Easy peasy, relatively speaking.

I agree. JC hasn't really done anything other than hire Spinelli (who has landed some nice recruits). I think faith and patience in JC is wholy unwarranted. That said, BB is Jarmond's sport. It is the area where he's at risk of becoming Coach Flip. He and his folks have been out there publicly supporting the direction of the BB program. In the same conversations, they've taken a critical/speculative stance as it relates to Daz (who I think objectively done a significantly better job). Now... they could be reading the room and just preaching to the choir (which is all salesmen really ever do). But, I have generally been surprised at the lack of public pressure on the BB front. Perhaps, the trainwreck that is NCAA BB has cooled BC's willingness to "dive out the window" into the dirtiest cesspool in the neighborhood.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

Lead Kindly Light {l Wrote}:If I were AD I'd fix basketball first, or do both together. 2 recruits can rebuild a basketball program. Easy peasy, relatively speaking.

I agree. JC hasn't really done anything other than hire Spinelli (who has landed some nice recruits). I think faith and patience in JC is wholy unwarranted. That said, BB is Jarmond's sport. It is the area where he's at risk of becoming Coach Flip. He and his folks have been out there publicly supporting the direction of the BB program. In the same conversations, they've taken a critical/speculative stance as it relates to Daz (who I think objectively done a significantly better job). Now... they could be reading the room and just preaching to the choir (which is all salesmen really ever do). But, I have generally been surprised at the lack of public pressure on the BB front. Perhaps, the trainwreck that is NCAA BB has cooled BC's willingness to "dive out the window" into the dirtiest cesspool in the neighborhood.

Unless they get some major jump from Popovic, Mitchell, etc. or the freshman are amazing this team is going to have a losing conference record again this year. I'm still not a big Ky Bowman fan.

As long as BC keeps being BC I'd honestly prefer they just stick with JC. Whatever coach they hire will be some cheap option with a 0% chance of success and we'll be right back in the same place.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

Lead Kindly Light {l Wrote}:If I were AD I'd fix basketball first, or do both together. 2 recruits can rebuild a basketball program. Easy peasy, relatively speaking.

I agree. JC hasn't really done anything other than hire Spinelli (who has landed some nice recruits). I think faith and patience in JC is wholy unwarranted. That said, BB is Jarmond's sport. It is the area where he's at risk of becoming Coach Flip. He and his folks have been out there publicly supporting the direction of the BB program. In the same conversations, they've taken a critical/speculative stance as it relates to Daz (who I think objectively done a significantly better job). Now... they could be reading the room and just preaching to the choir (which is all salesmen really ever do). But, I have generally been surprised at the lack of public pressure on the BB front. Perhaps, the trainwreck that is NCAA BB has cooled BC's willingness to "dive out the window" into the dirtiest cesspool in the neighborhood.

Unless they get some major jump from Popovic, Mitchell, etc. or the freshman are amazing this team is going to have a losing conference record again this year. I'm still not a big Ky Bowman fan.

As long as BC keeps being BC I'd honestly prefer they just stick with JC. Whatever coach they hire will be some cheap option with a 0% chance of success and we'll be right back in the same place.

HJS {l Wrote}:
I think he will look at guys like:
Neal Brown - Yes. Good fit and realist.
Brian Flores - Never been a head coach and never coached college. Would never sniff this job if not for BC connection.
HCRD - I think the window for him to come back to BC has passed.
Al Washington - not ready
Mike Reed - Never been coordinator and never showed any real interest in coming back to BC. Passed on offers from multiple BC head coaches.
Shane Waldron - Not terrible but a big reach. Never recruited.
Sean Ryan - Another GDF protege. A short stint as a BC GA doesn't really get me excited.
John DeFilippo - This is a joke, right?
Pete Carmichael Jr. - GDF and BB ignored him.
Brent Venables - Would be a real odd fit.
Dave Aranda - Not terrible.
Jason Candle - Not terrible but once again going rolling the dice with a MAC guy.
Frank Wilson - Another odd fit. What has he done at USTA to make you think he would be great at BC?
Scott Satterfield - Terrible fit.
Chad Morris - Why would he take less money to be the Head Coach at BC?
Mike Norvell - Weird fit and I think he will probably go to a factory before BC gets serious.
Tony Elliott - Not a terrible fit but still a big risk. Probably a better bet than Venables.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Most of HJS's list is terrible. See above. Brown and Day make the most sense.

hansen {l Wrote}:Didn’t FHCRD get named tOSU head coach in waiting?

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Most of HJS's list is terrible. See above. Brown and Day make the most sense.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Also the Catholic issue is a bigger deal than you probably realize for some of these Evangelical coaches.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Jarmond is a fundraiser who worked the Midwest and is from NC. He knows the ACC and although he had never worked private schools or the Northeast, he certainly seemed to get BC. Lots of the guys you mentioned are from schools with no similar geography for recruiting and have never recruited for schools with any admission standards. Also the Catholic issue is a bigger deal than you probably realize for some of these Evangelical coaches. That's what I mean by fit. We can grab a coach from a random school from outside the region - like Logan would have been from ECU - but the guy better be an x and os guy who is Catholic, not just some yokel who slips cash to random juco players.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Jarmond is a fundraiser who worked the Midwest and is from NC. He knows the ACC and although he had never worked private schools or the Northeast, he certainly seemed to get BC. Lots of the guys you mentioned are from schools with no similar geography for recruiting and have never recruited for schools with any admission standards. Also the Catholic issue is a bigger deal than you probably realize for some of these Evangelical coaches. That's what I mean by fit. We can grab a coach from a random school from outside the region - like Logan would have been from ECU - but the guy better be an x and os guy who is Catholic, not just some yokel who slips cash to random juco players.

College football is too big of a business for all involved for any of this backwater shit to be true.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Jarmond is a fundraiser who worked the Midwest and is from NC. He knows the ACC and although he had never worked private schools or the Northeast, he certainly seemed to get BC. Lots of the guys you mentioned are from schools with no similar geography for recruiting and have never recruited for schools with any admission standards. Also the Catholic issue is a bigger deal than you probably realize for some of these Evangelical coaches. That's what I mean by fit. We can grab a coach from a random school from outside the region - like Logan would have been from ECU - but the guy better be an x and os guy who is Catholic, not just some yokel who slips cash to random juco players.

College football is too big of a business for all involved for any of this backwater shit to be true.

So all this money is changing hands in basketball but it is not in Football? The car dealer recording Cam Newton's dad trolling for tens of thousands was just a one time thing?