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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby eepstein0 on Mon May 21, 2018 8:28 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:7 pm on a Friday Nignt is a bad idea for attendance.

Your casual fan isn’t taking 1/2 a day off which is necessary for a 7 pm kickoff.

Unless you live in or around Boston.


Leave the Financial District at 4:30 or 5:00 pm on a Friday Night and try to drive out to BC in game traffic. Let me know how it goes.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby flyingelvii on Mon May 21, 2018 9:56 am

If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby eepstein0 on Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.


BC said I couldn't land my helicopter on the 50 yard line before the game.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon May 21, 2018 11:10 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.


BC said I couldn't land my helicopter on the 50 yard line before the game.

i think you spelled "bunch of balloons" wrong
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby MilitantEagle on Mon May 21, 2018 12:27 pm

I always take a full or half day on the Friday games. I don't think it's that crazy to expect a casual fan to leave work a couple hours early on a Friday to go to a big game like FSU. Also, don't a lot of high school teams in Mass still play their games on Saturday? Friday nights are actually better in that respect if that's still the case.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby twballgame9 on Mon May 21, 2018 1:28 pm

MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:I always take a full or half day on the Friday games. I don't think it's that crazy to expect a casual fan to leave work a couple hours early on a Friday to go to a big game like FSU.


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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby eepstein0 on Mon May 21, 2018 2:39 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:I always take a full or half day on the Friday games. I don't think it's that crazy to expect a casual fan to leave work a couple hours early on a Friday to go to a big game like FSU.


This. epstein needs a new butler.


I just take a half day also, but by the time the casual fan gets out of work, slogs home, grabs the kids and gets to BC through the traffic it's well past 7 pm.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby eepstein0 on Mon May 21, 2018 2:40 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.


BC said I couldn't land my helicopter on the 50 yard line before the game.

i think you spelled "bunch of balloons" wrong


If we can rent a hot air balloon with some EO funds I will 100% take a hot air balloon from my house to the Miami game.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon May 21, 2018 2:53 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.


BC said I couldn't land my helicopter on the 50 yard line before the game.

i think you spelled "bunch of balloons" wrong


If we can rent a hot air balloon with some EO funds I will 100% take a hot air balloon from my house to the Miami game.

from what teddy tells us, you could just go to party city and buy a handful of mylar balloons to float yourself there. ACK ACK!
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby twballgame9 on Mon May 21, 2018 6:52 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
flyingelvii {l Wrote}:If only there were other means of transportation to get places, in Boston mind you, besides an automobile.


BC said I couldn't land my helicopter on the 50 yard line before the game.

i think you spelled "bunch of balloons" wrong


If we can rent a hot air balloon with some EO funds I will 100% take a hot air balloon from my house to the Miami game.

from what teddy tells us, you could just go to party city and buy a handful of mylar balloons to float yourself there. ACK ACK!


Yup. He lacks only the balloons. At least that's what my caddy tells my valet.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Mon May 21, 2018 7:50 pm

MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:Also, don't a lot of high school teams in Mass still play their games on Saturday? Friday nights are actually better in that respect if that's still the case.


In the 1980s, if you wanted to play a night game, quite often the smaller schools had to make their way to Middleboro. But Battis field was a gravy train. I was on the committee to help get the lights set up in Abington when they were installed in 1990. That is when lights started popping up everywhere on the South Shore. Basically, the thing about Friday night high school football in the state of Massachusetts (back 28 years ago) went something like this:

  • Decide if having night games will cause too many problems/crime because the fans have problems (which is why Brockton didn't get lights then)
  • Decide if football was that important to the educational experience such that lights were needed just to get the fans (which is why so many Catholic High Schools didn't have lights for the longest time)
  • Find someone to donate the lights (because no one had any money)
  • Profit

In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Friday night high school games have upwards of ten times the gate revenue of Saturday afternoon games. They just do. If you could get 200 in paid attendance on Saturday afternoon 2PM, you would get 2000 for Friday night 7PM. And the concessions are just as lucrative. They don't pull in anywhere near the dollars you get for Thanksgiving at 10AM (there was 25,000 people in attendance at the Weymouth game vs Brockton in 1991), but Friday Night high school games are far more lucrative than Saturday afternoon. Saturday is for college football because of alcohol and tailgating.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:52 am

wake's qb suspended for our game:

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Head Coach Dave Clawson announced today that quarterback Kendall Hinton and tight end Thomas Cole have been suspended for the first three games of the 2018 season due to a violation of team rules.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:07 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:wake's qb suspended for our game:

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Head Coach Dave Clawson announced today that quarterback Kendall Hinton and tight end Thomas Cole have been suspended for the first three games of the 2018 season due to a violation of team rules.

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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:52 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:wake's qb suspended for our game:

@WakeFB

Head Coach Dave Clawson announced today that quarterback Kendall Hinton and tight end Thomas Cole have been suspended for the first three games of the 2018 season due to a violation of team rules.


Good. Every little bit helps.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:37 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I can see 5 or 6 wins to start the season, followed by 5 or 6 losses and maybe a win at Syracuse. That would be brutal.


I think this is the problem we may be facing this season, an incredible beginning following by a miserable second half. BC's season begins at Wake Forest and if they win there, we may have a false sense of hope.

Clemson's defensive line is a legitimate NFL defensive line, far and away the best defensive line in college football. Every single starter on that line would be on an NFL roster TODAY if they declared for the NFL. So right off the bat, Clemson might hold BC and AJ Dillon to 0 yards rushing and that is assuming that this year's offensive line for BC is the best line that Addazio has had since that incredible line in 2014. Now Miami, VPI, and an FSU team that BC dominated, they are not Clemson. But these are still teams who have recruits that more closely resemble what Clemson has than what BC has.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:10 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I can see 5 or 6 wins to start the season, followed by 5 or 6 losses and maybe a win at Syracuse. That would be brutal.


I think this is the problem we may be facing this season, an incredible beginning following by a miserable second half. BC's season begins at Wake Forest and if they win there, we may have a false sense of hope.

Clemson's defensive line is a legitimate NFL defensive line, far and away the best defensive line in college football. Every single starter on that line would be on an NFL roster TODAY if they declared for the NFL. So right off the bat, Clemson might hold BC and AJ Dillon to 0 yards rushing and that is assuming that this year's offensive line for BC is the best line that Addazio has had since that incredible line in 2014. Now Miami, VPI, and an FSU team that BC dominated, they are not Clemson. But these are still teams who have recruits that more closely resemble what Clemson has than what BC has.


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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby dtwalrus on Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm

2018 could be the most complete BC team Daz has fielded. On both sides of the ball we're returning all the key pieces. The OL should be back to BC standards and hopefully Brown is the QB to finally allow us to run a somewhat unpredictable balanced offense. The defense loses very little from a very good '17 unit.

If BC starts 6-0, I think we'll have the tools and the confidence to knock off at least one or two of Clemson, FSU, VT and Miami. Start 6-0 and we probably limp to a 8-4 finish. Barring major injuries or the defense and OL just being unexpectedly miserable, I just don't see a 6-0 start finishing 1-5...

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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm

unpredictable like a nuke laloosh fastball... you never know where he's going to throw it
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:22 pm

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:2018 could be the most complete BC team Daz has fielded. On both sides of the ball we're returning all the key pieces. The OL should be back to BC standards and hopefully Brown is the QB to finally allow us to run a somewhat unpredictable balanced offense. The defense loses very little from a very good '17 unit.

If BC starts 6-0, I think we'll have the tools and the confidence to knock off at least one or two of Clemson, FSU, VT and Miami. Start 6-0 and we probably limp to a 8-4 finish. Barring major injuries or the defense and OL just being unexpectedly miserable, I just don't see a 6-0 start finishing 1-5...


We don't know yet (for sure) how strong or weak Wake Forest, Purdue, or NCState will be this year. But given the performance of these schools over the last few years, few would dispute that the first half of the season looks much easier than the second.

Good. That's good. That is the way we want it. We want to pump up the record early, give the players easier wins and some resulting confidence even if it is undeserved. But that confidence is not necessarily going to translate into wins in the later part of the season. These teams are (most likely) night and day different in athletic ability.

Lets get by a Wake Forest team that pummeled last year's BC team first and then, re-evaluate.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby dtwalrus on Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:34 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:2018 could be the most complete BC team Daz has fielded. On both sides of the ball we're returning all the key pieces. The OL should be back to BC standards and hopefully Brown is the QB to finally allow us to run a somewhat unpredictable balanced offense. The defense loses very little from a very good '17 unit.

If BC starts 6-0, I think we'll have the tools and the confidence to knock off at least one or two of Clemson, FSU, VT and Miami. Start 6-0 and we probably limp to a 8-4 finish. Barring major injuries or the defense and OL just being unexpectedly miserable, I just don't see a 6-0 start finishing 1-5...


We don't know yet (for sure) how strong or weak Wake Forest, Purdue, or NCState will be this year. But given the performance of these schools over the last few years, few would dispute that the first half of the season looks much easier than the second.

Good. That's good. That is the way we want it. We want to pump up the record early, give the players easier wins and some resulting confidence even if it is undeserved. But that confidence is not necessarily going to translate into wins in the later part of the season. These teams are (most likely) night and day different in athletic ability.

Lets get by a Wake Forest team that pummeled last year's BC team first and then, re-evaluate.


If we start 6-0 is a big if under Daz. I could just as easily see us going 6-0 as I can see up lose to Wake, Purdue AND Temple.

But I'm actually kind of optimistic going into this year. I think 6-0 is very possible. And VT should be down this year. Miami is home after a bye. FSU still has QB questions. I think a 6-0 start could actually mean a 10-2 season...and a 10 year Daz extension!
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:43 pm

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:I think a 6-0 start could actually mean a 10-2 season...


Its Tuesday right, not Friday or even Thursday afternoon. Why are you drinking already?

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:and a 10 year Daz extension!


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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:41 pm

Phil Steele's annual magazine (yes, the same Phil Steele who had BC rated #6 out of 6 teams in the Atlantic division in 2007) hit the book shelves today. I have never seen any publication suck off BC and Addazio so much as this one. He has the 2018 BC team as the best team Addazio has ever coached, #23 team in the nation, #4 in the ACC, and a serious challenger for Clemson. Hopefully the man didn't curse us.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby MattTheEagle on Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:10 pm

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Phil Steele's annual magazine (yes, the same Phil Steele who had BC rated #6 out of 6 teams in the Atlantic division in 2007) hit the book shelves today. I have never seen any publication suck off BC and Addazio so much as this one. He has the 2018 BC team as the best team Addazio has ever coached, #23 team in the nation, #4 in the ACC, and a serious challenger for Clemson. Hopefully the man didn't curse us.

I can agree with that. This is the best team Addazio has ever put on the field. The talent is there to be in the top 25. I’ll go on the record in saying that if Addazio gets 8 wins or less (including bowl), he should be fired.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:44 pm

MattTheEagle {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Phil Steele's annual magazine (yes, the same Phil Steele who had BC rated #6 out of 6 teams in the Atlantic division in 2007) hit the book shelves today. I have never seen any publication suck off BC and Addazio so much as this one. He has the 2018 BC team as the best team Addazio has ever coached, #23 team in the nation, #4 in the ACC, and a serious challenger for Clemson. Hopefully the man didn't curse us.

I can agree with that. This is the best team Addazio has ever put on the field. The talent is there to be in the top 25. I’ll go on the record in saying that if Addazio gets 8 wins or less (including bowl), he should be fired.

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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby dtwalrus on Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:42 am

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Phil Steele's annual magazine (yes, the same Phil Steele who had BC rated #6 out of 6 teams in the Atlantic division in 2007) hit the book shelves today. I have never seen any publication suck off BC and Addazio so much as this one. He has the 2018 BC team as the best team Addazio has ever coached, #23 team in the nation, #4 in the ACC, and a serious challenger for Clemson. Hopefully the man didn't curse us.


Aren't Phil Steele's ratings just a math formula? Some mash of recruiting stars and returning starters? BC returns a ton of starts this year. Of course, Phil Steele's doesn't include Daz's return in the equation...
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:15 am

People here are rightfully underestimating this team. Ignoring for a moment that the coach is terrible, this should be a better team than last year. It's unlikely they regress. BC is strong on both lines and that is the great equalizer against the factories. Whether they get better depends on whether they can replace the corners and whether Brown can increase his accurancy to an acceptable level and stay healthy. If those two things happen, in a vacuum (and no space's drivel notwithstanding) this is the best and most talented team in the division after Clemson.

To paraphrase Dan Patrick it's too bad they don't play games in a vacuum. [insert Tigers in space meme here]. There is simply no overlooking the coaching deficiency. The only hope to avoid a loss or two on the coaches is that they come out and punch every team in the mouth so hard with the run game that most games look like FSU last season - over early. But it will only matter in a game or two. They should win 7 or 8 at least, even with this coach.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby flyingelvii on Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:36 am

Hard to replace corners when they've never got filled in in the first place.
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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:50 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Hard to replace corners when they've never got filled in in the first place.


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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:24 am

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:Hard to replace corners when they've never got filled in in the first place.


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Re: 2018 Schedule

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:15 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:People here are rightfully underestimating this team. Ignoring for a moment that the coach is terrible, this should be a better team than last year. It's unlikely they regress. BC is strong on both lines and that is the great equalizer against the factories.


What was bolded was the most important thing you said. Your "drivel" was all downhill from here.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Whether they get better depends on whether they can replace the corners and whether Brown can increase his accuracy to an acceptable level and stay healthy. If those two things happen, in a vacuum (and no space's drivel notwithstanding) this is the best and most talented team in the division after Clemson.


Addazio is starting his 6th recruiting class. In his 5th class, he finally recruited a player that the Baby Rapists wanted. Still, his class was ranked dead last in the ACC as it usually is. A J Dillon didn't change that fact. This team is not talented.

BC may have the second best team in the Atlantic but they are NOT the second most talented team in the Atlantic. They are just the oldest team in the Atlantic. No team in the ACC (either division) has so many returning starters (which was Phil Steele's main point to rank them as high as he did.) No team in the ACC has so many players in their early 20s. They are BYU without the missionary work. This is a team of very young men playing a game against teams filled with grown boys. BC's young men are not as talented or athletic as the grown boys they will be playing, but they are still men playing boys.

You could be a 5-star super athlete at defensive end, you are still going to struggle at defensive end if you are a redshirt frosh, only 19, and the 2-star offensive tackle blocking you is 22 years old with 24 starts under his belt. 2 or 3 years of age and experience means everything in college football from strength, bone structure, and an experience standpoint. It is the great "equalizer." This is especially true for linemen more than any other position (which Teddy correctly pointed out, kudos to him.)

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:To paraphrase Dan Patrick it's too bad they don't play games in a vacuum. [insert Tigers in space meme here]. There is simply no overlooking the coaching deficiency. The only hope to avoid a loss or two on the coaches is that they come out and punch every team in the mouth so hard with the run game that most games look like FSU last season - over early. But it will only matter in a game or two. They should win 7 or 8 at least, even with this coach.


We are allies in wanting this coach gone. I have wanted him gone for a couple years now, maybe not for the exact reasons you want him gone. If the AD gives Addazio any kind of a contract extension, then I will want the AD gone. With the 4 OOC games on this schedule, winning 7 does nothing for me. But given the "deficiency" winning 7 is probably to be expected, unfortunately. And even if it is expected, I'll still be disappointed.
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