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Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:59 am
by Logitano
cremins wrote:don't really get ham not coming to BC. no eichenberg, he was the stud lber of this class at a school with a pretty good LB tradition.
I guess we have some good young lbers on the team but don't get it.


Dead coach walking. This really should not be a surprise. :ace

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:59 am
by HJS
Here is my take...

1. As I have been saying all along, Daz is a good evaluator and recruiter. The latest poaching of players identified over the summer just further supports that for folks who were stubbornly in disbelief. I think he is questionable as a developer of talent and a flat out awful coach. But, he is a very good salesman.

2. Ham is a loss, but only because we are thin at LB with this class (with the combined loss of Eichenberg). From a quality perspective, I think we would've easily filled the spot with comparable talent if the decommit occurred August. In spite of him apprently pulling a Dillon Quinn at a 247 Camp, he only got a second Big 5 offer when Colorado's new staff is scrambling to fill its class and are flinging around offers.

3. Smith and Eichenberg are the losses. That said, BC is always going to have trouble holding onto an Ohio kid with an OSU offer and a Florida kid with an FSU offer (even if we were 10-2). But, there was talent there that is impossible to replace at this stage.

4. We still have some irons in the fire with Greico, Deberry, Carter and Pyne. Hopefully, some of these slide our way. I believe Carter will end up at LT when all said and done. So, not a perfect contingency to losing Smith (who was an interior lineman), but it would be something. If Greico can grow into a LB, he very well may be a better long term prospect than Ham.

5. I don't think we kept Daz to "save the class". But, if that was part of the thinking, I hope that losing 2 of our top 5 recruits will make folks aware of the folly.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:49 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
innocentbystander wrote:
DavidGordonsFoot wrote:It is really hard to root for this program.


DGF who are you quoting?

Nobody. That is how I feel.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:27 pm
by HJS
Here is your contingency plan for losing Smith.
https://247sports.com/Player/Jermaine-D ... -46054590/

Credit the staff for having one. Don't know exactly why he verballed to Temple over impressive early interest:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/col ... 80621.html

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:50 pm
by flakes
what's our plan at QB?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:01 pm
by hansen
Has anyone heard anything about Romain Mungin flipping to Bowling Green?
Am I reading this right?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:04 pm
by claver2010
i believe it's an academic thing

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:42 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:25 pm
by HJS
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.

We're walking a tightrope closing out this class. Lose Mungin, gain DeBerry. Lose Smith, gain Donaldson. Lose Ham, gain Grieco.
Here's the problem... we haven't gotten confirmation of the additions, but have been assured of the losses.

Also... has anyone have any news on Pyne and Carter?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:00 pm
by HJS
And like that... one of the replacements isn't a replacement.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Vender/status/ ... 7986684928

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:42 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot
'Tis the season for ISL flyers.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:13 am
by DuchesneEast
HJS wrote:And like that... one of the replacements isn't a replacement.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Vender/status/ ... 7986684928


Shit Show, staring the Heinz Hammer

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:34 am
by claver2010
HJS wrote:
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
claver2010 wrote:i believe it's an academic thing


Sounded like he never actually had a "committable" offer.

We're walking a tightrope closing out this class. Lose Mungin, gain DeBerry. Lose Smith, gain Donaldson. Lose Ham, gain Grieco.
Here's the problem... we haven't gotten confirmation of the additions, but have been assured of the losses.

Also... has anyone have any news on Pyne and Carter?


apparently pyne is staying '20 but that's not CONFIRMED, my guess is he ends up at ND

carter: bc is the leader

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:58 am
by DomingoOrtiz
In:
Josh DeBerry
Shittah Sillah
Pat Garwo
Bryce Sebastian
Sam Johnson
I Henderson
Ethon Williams
B Rustemi
Jack Conley
J Williams
Jackson Ness
Zay Flowers
Spencer Bono
Ireland Burke
S Lubisher
Connor Grieco

think that is everyone

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:16 am
by claver2010
Greico signed (offers: academies, cal, oregon, rutgres, uva, wvu) https://247sports.com/Player/Connor-Grieco-46050463/
Deberry signed (offers: wake, nw, iowa, isu, kentucky) https://247sports.com/Player/Josh-DeBerry-46052074/

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:49 am
by angrychicken
Any word on Nails MacFugger?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:50 am
by HJS
Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:57 am
by HJS
In news from ATL... tough day for HCRD. They lost their #1 Recruit to Bama (Jordan Battle) and their QB recruit to Georgia (Dwan Mathis). Eichenberg was their only flip.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:04 am
by DomingoOrtiz
HJS wrote:Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.


Are we out with Pyne and Carter?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:11 am
by bceagles24
DomingoOrtiz wrote:
HJS wrote:Real solid late pick-ups of DeBerry and Grieco. Disappointing we struck out on OLine (Pyne, Donaldson and Carter). Overall, it is still a very good class... but was even better with Eichenberg and Smith.


Are we out with Pyne and Carter?


Pyne ended up switching back to 2020 he’ll EE in that class. BC still heavily involved. Carter might not sign this signing period and wait until February that’s up in the air.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:25 am
by BCSUPERFAN22
247 saying BC flipped Mike Ciafoni from UMass at OL

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:35 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
Daz continues to fail the team at O Line.

Remember O-Line U? Me neither.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:45 pm
by hansen
BCSUPERFAN22 wrote:247 saying BC flipped Mike Ciafoni from UMass at OL


247 has him listed as a 6'3" 265 DT

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:57 pm
by DuchesneEast
I know we dont follow recruiting rankings, but 52nd?

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:02 pm
by BC923
DuchesneEast wrote:I know we dont follow recruiting rankings, but 52nd?

Taking a smaller class won't help you there, and still ranked ahead of pretty much all recent classes

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:06 pm
by hansen
Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:09 pm
by BC923
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:47 pm
by Cadillac90
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.


Why? It is pretty plain as day.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:06 pm
by hansen
BC923 wrote:
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too


Colorado has been a head coach for a total of 5 games in the NFL and went 2-3. That’s the extent of his head coaching expertise.

Re: 2019 Recruiting Thread

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:15 pm
by BC923
hansen wrote:
BC923 wrote:
hansen wrote:Marvin Ham is waiting until 6pm tonight to sign presumably with Colorado.
Is he waiting in the hopes something better comes along?
Still don't get the allure of Colorado or the pac-12.

My guess is the coach. Plenty of :skank in the PAC-12 too


Colorado has been a head coach for a total of 5 games in the NFL and went 2-3. That’s the extent of his head coaching expertise.

Were they not the ones that hired the Georgia DC?