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flyingelvii {l Wrote}:ND never legitimately challenged for a national title outside the year they played in the national title game and the other years he made the playoff. Giving yourself a lot of latitude with the word “legitimately”.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:ND never legitimately challenged for a national title outside the year they played in the national title game and the other years he made the playoff. Giving yourself a lot of latitude with the word “legitimately”.

Lol they played in that game?

I am enjoying your diction critiques. Carry on.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:Brent Venables getting talked up as the leader for the OU job. Would be tremendous to get him out of conference.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ball-coach
I can’t believe that Aranda did not get picked up this cycle based on the jobs that were open.

I don't know, if you watched the second half of Baylor-OK State yesterday, it was a master class in game management as taught by Steve Adazzio. Also, when you win the turnover battle +4, including three turnovers in or on the edges of the opponents Red Zone, it takes a special kind of ineptness to require your OLB to make a freakishly good play despite being lined up completely out of position to bring the opponent's running back down an inch shy of the goal line.

Dick:

Who are your Irish going to hire when they fire Freeman in three years?

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

b0mberMan {l Wrote}:Brent Venables getting talked up as the leader for the OU job. Would be tremendous to get him out of conference.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ball-coach
I can’t believe that Aranda did not get picked up this cycle based on the jobs that were open.

I don't know, if you watched the second half of Baylor-OK State yesterday, it was a master class in game management as taught by Steve Adazzio. Also, when you win the turnover battle +4, including three turnovers in or on the edges of the opponents Red Zone, it takes a special kind of ineptness to require your OLB to make a freakishly good play despite being lined up completely out of position to bring the opponent's running back down an inch shy of the goal line.

Dick:

Who are your Irish going to hire when they fire Freeman in three years?

I guess it depends on whether he emulates Ty Willy and spends three years playing golf and putting no effort into recruiting. I think the morons who tried to play the race card after they fired Ty Willy all had to drink a big frothy cup of STFU after he went to UDub and did the exact same thing and absolutely buried that program. The other failed coaches at ND who got their five year runs at least made an effort with respect to recruiting. Faust left Holtz a bundle of talent that formed the backbone of the 1988 National Championship (All Americans Frank Stams, Andy Heck, etc.), Davie left Ty Willie with enough talent that even a gross incompetent like Ty Willie could go 8-0 to start his ND career and was actually the architect of the class that signed in the wake of his firing (Quinn, Zibikowski, etc.) that Weis took and went 10-3 and 10-3 his first two years, and Weis left a plethora of talent that was then entire platform upon which Kelly made his run in 2012.

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:I agree with all of what you said, and I was being sarcastic with respect to Blog Boy suggesting that Ty Willy got fired because of racism rather than being grossly incompetent and lazy with respect to recruiting. With respect to Freeman, I do think he will do exceptionally well as a recruiter--he already has, and with the dead weight of Kelly gone, I expect him to do even better.

eagle33 {l Wrote}:diaz out at miami. looks like the cristobal deal is done.

HJS {l Wrote}:Tony Elliott favored for the UVA job.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say

Pretty rough 2021 for Dabo. Since he’s more a cheerleader and recruiter, who he brings in to actually coach will determine the ongoing success.

HJS {l Wrote}:Tony Elliott favored for the UVA job.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say

Pretty rough 2021 for Dabo. Since he’s more a cheerleader and recruiter, who he brings in to actually coach will determine the ongoing success.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:ND never legitimately challenged for a national title outside the year they played in the national title game and the other years he made the playoff. Giving yourself a lot of latitude with the word “legitimately”.

Lol they played in that game?

I am enjoying your diction critiques. Carry on.

As opposed to using an extremely narrow definition so you can fit your argument in. Otherwise it means there were like 3 teams that legitimately challenged for a title and didn’t win.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:ND never legitimately challenged for a national title outside the year they played in the national title game and the other years he made the playoff. Giving yourself a lot of latitude with the word “legitimately”.

Lol they played in that game?

I am enjoying your diction critiques. Carry on.

As opposed to using an extremely narrow definition so you can fit your argument in. Otherwise it means there were like 3 teams that legitimately challenged for a title and didn’t win.

"Legitimately challenged" is a good description for that ND team.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:ND never legitimately challenged for a national title outside the year they played in the national title game and the other years he made the playoff. Giving yourself a lot of latitude with the word “legitimately”.

Lol they played in that game?

I am enjoying your diction critiques. Carry on.

As opposed to using an extremely narrow definition so you can fit your argument in. Otherwise it means there were like 3 teams that legitimately challenged for a title and didn’t win.

"Legitimately challenged" is a good description for that ND team.

I agree that teams should not strive to make the National Championship game for fear of losing in it.

HJS {l Wrote}:Duke made a pretty nice hire in Mike Elko.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:Duke made a pretty nice hire in Mike Elko.

I think Duke will always be a tough job because they don't care about Football. It will also be interesting to see what happens after Coach K leaves. They might stop caring about revenue sports in general.

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:He got paid and got lucky. Like 8 things had to happen for him to get the ND position starting with him choosing ND over LSU, Cincy making the playoffs to take Fickell off the market, Coach O pissing off boosters two years after a National Championship, Lincoln Riley choosing USC, and I’m sure others. Better to be lucky than good.

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:

flyingelvii {l Wrote}:He got paid and got lucky. Like 8 things had to happen for him to get the ND position starting with him choosing ND over LSU, Cincy making the playoffs to take Fickell off the market, Coach O pissing off boosters two years after a National Championship, Lincoln Riley choosing USC, and I’m sure others. Better to be lucky than good.

Yes, a lot of luck involved, but the fact that he took ND over LSU showed some awareness. Elko did not have that sort of awareness when he took the money and jumped ship to A&M, which did nothing but hurt his reputation as a defensive genius--especially when coupled with the fact that Lea came in and the defense outperformed what it did under Elko (more as a result of improved recruiting that anything Lea did, but it didn't help). Lea's decision is even more baffling. I know he is an alum, but Vandy is where promising coaches go to kill their careers. Yes, Franklin did well by Vandy standards (6-7, 9-4, 8-4) but benefitted from a few very unique historical anomalies within the SEC all happening at the same time (specifically Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida and Kentucky being bad beyond any historical norms all at the same time). Lea should have avoided that job like the plague and banked the current 11-1 season. While he admittedly would have been clairvoyant to see Kelly being lured away by LSU, I am guessing that Lea would have been a top candidate for the ND job had he still been there and at the very least would have been a candidate for some of the better available jobs that opened this year.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:In the current format ND has a pretty good lane to the playoff annually. If it goes to an 8 or 12 team format, they will be locks. That will give recruiting some perpetual motion. Then it is on Freeman to staff well and manage games when things get tight.