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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Onyx Blackman on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:08 pm

HJS wrote:Brett Bielema heading back to the BigTen as head coach for Illinois. I think that’s a pretty decent hire for a terrible program.

I hope he punched Joe Judge on the way out.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:24 pm

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HJS wrote:Brett Bielema heading back to the BigTen as head coach for Illinois. I think that’s a pretty decent hire for a terrible program.

I hope he punched Joe Judge on the way out.

Offensive line has looked so much better since Judge micromanaged it into Colombo's termination.

Joe Judge has all the feel of Steve Addazio... road the coattails of a hall of fame coach into a job they weren't qualified for... became a media darling with straightforward, tough talk... preached old school, physical tropes... talks about how important it is that everyone leaves their ego at the door (but really is the most sensitive and reacts violently to critiques)... quick to point fingers to others for failures... meddles in every aspect of the program even though entire previous coaching experience was limited to one small aspect.

I look forward to his impending failure... because it will be spectacularly volatile and entertaining. Giants have throttled through coaches. So, he'll be around at least through Year 3 (but I don't think he'll make Year 5). That will give the next GM time to rebuild the roster with early draft picks and then pick a coach best suited to allow the organization to not suck.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby claver2010 on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:41 pm

HJS wrote:Joe Judge has all the feel of Steve Addazio... road the coattails of a hall of fame coach into a job they weren't qualified for... became a media darling with straightforward, tough talk... preached old school, physical tropes... talks about how important it is that everyone leaves their ego at the door (but really is the most sensitive and reacts violently to critiques)... quick to point fingers to others for failures... meddles in every aspect of the program even though entire previous coaching experience was limited to one small aspect.

I look forward to his impending failure... because it will be spectacularly volatile and entertaining. Giants have throttled through coaches. So, he'll be around at least through Year 3 (but I don't think he'll make Year 5). That will give the next GM time to rebuild the roster with early draft picks and then pick a coach best suited to allow the organization to not suck.


that was fun a couple of weeks ago.

they're staring down the barrel of a 6-10 / 5 -11 season aided by playing in the worst division in recent memory + playing a joe burrow-less bengals
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:48 pm

claver2010 wrote:
HJS wrote:Joe Judge has all the feel of Steve Addazio... road the coattails of a hall of fame coach into a job they weren't qualified for... became a media darling with straightforward, tough talk... preached old school, physical tropes... talks about how important it is that everyone leaves their ego at the door (but really is the most sensitive and reacts violently to critiques)... quick to point fingers to others for failures... meddles in every aspect of the program even though entire previous coaching experience was limited to one small aspect.

I look forward to his impending failure... because it will be spectacularly volatile and entertaining. Giants have throttled through coaches. So, he'll be around at least through Year 3 (but I don't think he'll make Year 5). That will give the next GM time to rebuild the roster with early draft picks and then pick a coach best suited to allow the organization to not suck.


that was fun a couple of weeks ago.

they're staring down the barrel of a 6-10 / 5 -11 season aided by playing in the worst division in recent memory + playing a joe burrow-less bengals


It is mind boggling that they beat the Seahawks. The best example I have seen as of late of the old saw "on any given Sunday". And with all due respect to BC guy John Mara, the Giants are back where they were in the late 60s through the 70s, a sad joke of an organization that can't get out of its own way.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:54 pm

Dick Rosenthal wrote:It is mind boggling that they beat the Seahawks. The best example I have seen as of late of the old saw "on any given Sunday".

It was the best example until yesterday. That is when the Jets did the Jetsiest Jets thing to ever Jets... by beating a 9-win Rams team playing to secure a playoff spot... and losing the right to draft Trevor Lawrence. Really should've held onto Gregg Williams for a few more weeks.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:56 pm

HJS wrote:
Dick Rosenthal wrote:It is mind boggling that they beat the Seahawks. The best example I have seen as of late of the old saw "on any given Sunday".

It was the best example until yesterday. That is when the Jets did the Jetsiest Jets thing to ever Jets... by beating a 9-win Rams team playing to secure a playoff spot... and losing the right to draft Trevor Lawrence. Really should've held onto Gregg Williams for a few more weeks.


That's true as well, although I chalked yesterday's result up to a combination of you can't lose them all and God hates the Jets.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:59 pm

Dick Rosenthal wrote:
claver2010 wrote:
HJS wrote:Joe Judge has all the feel of Steve Addazio... road the coattails of a hall of fame coach into a job they weren't qualified for... became a media darling with straightforward, tough talk... preached old school, physical tropes... talks about how important it is that everyone leaves their ego at the door (but really is the most sensitive and reacts violently to critiques)... quick to point fingers to others for failures... meddles in every aspect of the program even though entire previous coaching experience was limited to one small aspect.

I look forward to his impending failure... because it will be spectacularly volatile and entertaining. Giants have throttled through coaches. So, he'll be around at least through Year 3 (but I don't think he'll make Year 5). That will give the next GM time to rebuild the roster with early draft picks and then pick a coach best suited to allow the organization to not suck.


that was fun a couple of weeks ago.

they're staring down the barrel of a 6-10 / 5 -11 season aided by playing in the worst division in recent memory + playing a joe burrow-less bengals


It is mind boggling that they beat the Seahawks. The best example I have seen as of late of the old saw "on any given Sunday". And with all due respect to BC guy John Mara, the Giants are back where they were in the late 60s through the 70s, a sad joke of an organization that can't get out of its own way.


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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:37 pm

The Jets would have ruined Lawrence. Jax might do the same but they actually might get to the playoffs on occasion with him.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:06 pm

ATLeagle wrote:The Jets would have ruined Lawrence. Jax might do the same but they actually might get to the playoffs on occasion with him.

I think Lawrence is a generational-type QB prospect. I don't think any team would pass on him. He would've been the number one overall selection in every draft since arriving on campus (should he had been permitted to enter). That said, by Jetsing their opportunity, Douglas should trade the #2 selection to a desperate team willing to surrender assets. I think there is a great opportunity to trade #2 to Atlanta. They would be bringing back a homegrown kid and could move on from Matt Ryan... the Jets could get multiple high picks this year and next.

The Jets should continue to focus on building out their offensive and defensive lines... and then focus on DB and LB. The last thing they need is RB, WR and TE. Those positions are only effective when you have the other pieces in place. Frank Gore and the rest of their makeshift skill positions shows that average talent at those positions are readily available on the waiver wire. You only invest in those other positions when you are ready to compete. There could be a certain freedom from expectations that the Jets can enjoy by missing on Lawrence.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:21 pm

Matt Ryan is not being moved until post-June 1, at the earliest.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby hansen on Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:15 pm

Third Down Donnie Brown is out at Michigan.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:35 pm

hansen wrote:Third Down Donnie Brown is out at Michigan.


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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:58 pm

GDF probably feels justified as he said Brown wasn't a DI dc.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby hansen on Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:15 pm

Thamel reporting BSU head coach Brian Harsin to be named auburns next head coach after Brent Venabels turned them down.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:48 pm

hansen wrote:Third Down Donnie Brown is out at Michigan.


I figured this would get people fired up around here.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:49 pm

hansen wrote:Thamel reporting BSU head coach Brian Harsin to be named auburns next head coach after Brent Venabels turned them down.


What’s Venebles waiting for? You’re not going to find a much better gig than Auburn.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:07 pm

eepstein0 wrote:
hansen wrote:Thamel reporting BSU head coach Brian Harsin to be named auburns next head coach after Brent Venabels turned them down.


What’s Venebles waiting for? You’re not going to find a much better gig than Auburn.


I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:31 pm

Dick Rosenthal wrote:
eepstein0 wrote:
hansen wrote:Thamel reporting BSU head coach Brian Harsin to be named auburns next head coach after Brent Venabels turned them down.


What’s Venebles waiting for? You’re not going to find a much better gig than Auburn.


I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.


All of this is probably true but barring a scandal, after flaming out as a HC, he would walk away with $millions and still be able to get a top DC position.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby TontoKowalski on Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:22 pm

Dick Rosenthal wrote:I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.


This had me in tears. Also, there's way too much meth available within an hours drive of Opelika for him to bring his kids to Auburn and nothing else to do. Clemson has accessible meth in Robbinsville and the Nantahala has tons of backwoods cookers, but his kids have to drive past too many distracting things to get to those places from Clemson. No way they have that level of focus.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Eaglekeeper on Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:42 pm

It’s Harbaugh who is the problem, not Don Brown. Michigan’s offense is horrible. With Brown out it’s a help to our recruiting.

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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby claver2010 on Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:45 am

so is brown's defense and reliance on the ISL all stars to go up against ryan day
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:02 am

claver2010 wrote:so is brown's defense and reliance on the ISL all stars to go up against ryan day

Going back and reading the buconvict/#michiganmbasmatter posts in the recruiting thread is a delight given how everything transpired in the months since helter-skeltering this board with Harbaugh/Brown love.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby flyingelvii on Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:05 am

Your Michigan obsession is odd.
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Postby BC923 on Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:19 am

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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:12 pm

TontoKowalski wrote:
Dick Rosenthal wrote:I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.


This had me in tears. Also, there's way too much meth available within an hours drive of Opelika for him to bring his kids to Auburn and nothing else to do.


Tonto that is exactly what Kevin Williamson said in his latest book. Would you care to venture a guess as to what (exactly) is used as "currency" as a medium of exchange to go from the Food stamps all the way to the meth? Would any of you? Its one thing specifically.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby MF73-Eleazar on Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:44 pm

Have any of Hafley's staff been offered a gig/promotion elsewhere? I don't think I've heard anyone's name mentioned outside of Lukabu.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:23 pm

innocentbystander wrote:
TontoKowalski wrote:
Dick Rosenthal wrote:I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.


This had me in tears. Also, there's way too much meth available within an hours drive of Opelika for him to bring his kids to Auburn and nothing else to do.


Tonto that is exactly what Kevin Williamson said in his latest book. Would you care to venture a guess as to what (exactly) is used as "currency" as a medium of exchange to go from the Food stamps all the way to the meth? Would any of you? Its one thing specifically.

i assume it is lies. they are using lies as currency
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:41 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle wrote:
innocentbystander wrote:
TontoKowalski wrote:
Dick Rosenthal wrote:I think Venables has figured out that he will be disaster as a head coach and is willing to do a job for which he is well-suited for $2 million a year. Venables is an inarticulate hayseed who, conversationally, comes across as a cross between a character from Deliverance and The Hills Have Eyes. As the face of a program he is a disaster waiting to happen. He has a sweet gig. Dabo is an ace recruiter and the perfect program CEO for modern college football. He will make sure that Venables will have a plethora of 5 star talent and Venables will deploy it well. I congratulate Venables on being self aware of what he is and honest about his own limitations. Most people never reach that state of enlightenment.


This had me in tears. Also, there's way too much meth available within an hours drive of Opelika for him to bring his kids to Auburn and nothing else to do.


Tonto that is exactly what Kevin Williamson said in his latest book. Would you care to venture a guess as to what (exactly) is used as "currency" as a medium of exchange to go from the Food stamps all the way to the meth? Would any of you? Its one thing specifically.

i assume it is lies. they are using lies as currency


Good guess. Nice try.

Soda. Its cans of soda. What happens in the White Ghetto is this (follow the welfare/poverty steps):

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  • You go to the only grocery store in town, and buy cases and cases of pop, sometimes 30 cases or more
  • You then sell that pop to whomever wants to buy it at 50 cents on the EBT dollar that you paid
  • Now you have cash to buy meth, lottery tickets, and cigarettes

You must convert the food stamp to cash. Because only cash buys the meth and the scratch tickets. Soda is the most perfect medium of exchange in the White Ghetto of meth-Appalachia. You could even convert unopened cans of soda into blowjobs. As such, its not uncommon to find cans of soda (their currency) never actually opened and drank. I find this shit (a world, in which none of us on this board live) to be fascinating. I only wish that colleges and universities weren't too "politically-correct-pussy" to educate our children on this so that they really know what-the-fuck is going on in the poverty parts of this country.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:53 pm

What the hell is going in here?
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Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:23 pm

twballgame9 wrote:What the hell is going in here?

nospace is trying to corner the cigarette market in the local hi-max prison, i think
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