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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:00 am
by MilitantEagle
Does AA include black people who are not of African descent or not American? Like a black person from the Dominican Republic? Would that still meet his needs?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:27 am
by eepstein0
Can someone explain the math of "they'll make the money back on the Daz buyout and signing Chip for $4 million"?

Where is this $6.5 million coming from?

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:41 am
by CowboyEagle22
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
CowboyEagle22 {l Wrote}:an AA candidate

African-American?

probably, but i was hoping for alcoholics anonymous



Steve Sarkisian would be an upgrade.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:41 am
by Cadillac90
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Can someone explain the math of "they'll make the money back on the Daz buyout and signing Chip for $4 million"?

Where is this $6.5 million coming from?


The increased sales of $8 beers.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:41 am
by claver2010
me thinks the increases in shakedowns are coming under jarmond.

last week got the 'give 110%' flyer in the mail trying to get all donors to increase their contribution by 10%

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:51 am
by twballgame9
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Can someone explain the math of "they'll make the money back on the Daz buyout and signing Chip for $4 million"?

Where is this $6.5 million coming from?


They can just cut four or five football scholarships.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:52 am
by twballgame9
claver2010 {l Wrote}:me thinks the increases in shakedowns are coming under jarmond.

last week got the 'give 110%' flyer in the mail trying to get all donors to increase their contribution by 10%


Play better.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:53 am
by eepstein0
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Can someone explain the math of "they'll make the money back on the Daz buyout and signing Chip for $4 million"?

Where is this $6.5 million coming from?


The increased sales of $8 beers.


Well played.

People say this all the time and I'm pretty sure the math doesn't work like that unless you're using the same screwy accounting logic that BC uses for scholarships

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:08 pm
by twballgame9
They just raised a shit ton of money to put a turf field indoors. The increased interest in football and concomitant increase in checkbook opening by simply shit-canning Captain Boredom and hiring the guy with the most exciting offense in college football history will cover the $6.5 million.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:09 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:Does AA include black people who are not of African descent or not American? Like a black person from the Dominican Republic? Would that still meet his needs?

i'll also admit that the grand generalization of "afro-american/african american" has bothered me for some time for just the reason you point out. is it considered racist to call a person "black?" i think it's less offensive than assuming their ancestry is africa

p and s - i am not oj, 0j, or domino12

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:13 pm
by Cadillac90
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:They just raised a shit ton of money to put a turf field indoors. The increased interest in football and concomitant increase in checkbook opening by simply shit-canning Captain Boredom and hiring the guy with the most exciting offense in college football history will cover the $6.5 million.


This. Plus if MJ excels at fund raising, he goes to Leahy with the $6.5mm in hand and informs the good Padre that Sgt. Slaughter will be relieved of his duties as head coach.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:36 pm
by twballgame9
I would have to assume that there are plenty of people that like to see their names on faux gothic architecture that would write a few checks to help stop their alma mater from embarrassing itself on national television 4-5 times a year.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:47 pm
by BCMurt09
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I would have to assume that there are plenty of people that like to see their names on faux gothic architecture that would write a few checks to help stop their alma mater from embarrassing itself on national television 4-5 times a year.


I think this too but the fact that they haven't yet is what concerns me.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:27 pm
by claver2010

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:19 pm
by Logitano
claver2010 {l Wrote}:article on our next hc: https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... se-fordham


He would do very well at BC. :ace

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:31 pm
by Eaglekeeper
The money is easy, do the math. The average attendance will go up each year with Moorhead. Just 5,000 per game for 6 games at $50 per seat is $1,250,000 x 5 years = $7.5 million. Average attendance has been 30,000 the last couple of years. I see the increase at least 10,000 and eventually 15,000. That is not counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc.

BC will lose more than 6.5 million if they do not buy Daz out.

Moorhead is the clear choice. I'm worried about MJ making the right choice. He is not a businessman and his comment at The Gridiron Club that BC would never pay a coach 8 million a year is premature. BC knows what their revenues are now, but if Moorhead is highly successful we do not know how much our revenues will increase. That number is unknown and without it one can never say what BC will be willing to pay a coach to protect that revenue stream. I remember telling a trustee friend of mine after TC's 2nd year that BC should offer him a ten year, ten million dollar contract. The trustee laughed saying that BC would never pay that for a coach and that the faculty would be in an uproar! Daz gets 2.5 million! The whole concern of image and faculty outrage has long since passed at BC. We need to hire Moorhead and keep him here for 25 years. Average to poor coaches will never survive at BC. We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:42 pm
by BCSUPERFAN22
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The money is easy, do the math. The average attendance will go up each year with Moorhead. Just 5,000 per game for 6 games at $50 per seat is $1,250,000 x 5 years = $7.5 million. Average attendance has been 30,000 the last couple of years. I see the increase at least 10,000 and eventually 15,000. That is not counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc.

BC will lose more than 6.5 million if they do not buy Daz out.

Moorhead is the clear choice. I'm worried about MJ making the right choice. He is not a businessman and his comment at The Gridiron Club that BC would never pay a coach 8 million a year is premature. BC knows what their revenues are now, but if Moorhead is highly successful we do not know how much our revenues will increase. That number is unknown and without it one can never say what BC will be willing to pay a coach to protect that revenue stream. I remember telling a trustee friend of mine after TC's 2nd year that BC should offer him a ten year, ten million dollar contract. The trustee laughed saying that BC would never pay that for a coach and that the faculty would be in an uproar! Daz gets 2.5 million! The whole concern of image and faculty outrage has long since passed at BC. We need to hire Moorhead and keep him here for 25 years. Average to poor coaches will never survive at BC. We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!


While this is conceptually true, its not the case with Morehead. Im not arguing that he would be good/bad, but he will not make a material difference in contributions or attendance, hes not a big enough name in the near term. To see the type of immediate impact that youre projecting, its someone like Kelly (or maybe O'Brien). Maybe in the long run with success (if he were to stay), but for immediate impact, you need to make a bigger splash.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:43 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The money is easy, do the math. The average attendance will go up each year with Moorhead. Just 5,000 per game for 6 games at $50 per seat is $1,250,000 x 5 years = $7.5 million. Average attendance has been 30,000 the last couple of years. I see the increase at least 10,000 and eventually 15,000. That is not counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc.

BC will lose more than 6.5 million if they do not buy Daz out.

Moorhead is the clear choice. I'm worried about MJ making the right choice. He is not a businessman and his comment at The Gridiron Club that BC would never pay a coach 8 million a year is premature. BC knows what their revenues are now, but if Moorhead is highly successful we do not know how much our revenues will increase. That number is unknown and without it one can never say what BC will be willing to pay a coach to protect that revenue stream. I remember telling a trustee friend of mine after TC's 2nd year that BC should offer him a ten year, ten million dollar contract. The trustee laughed saying that BC would never pay that for a coach and that the faculty would be in an uproar! Daz gets 2.5 million! The whole concern of image and faculty outrage has long since passed at BC. We need to hire Moorhead and keep him here for 25 years. Average to poor coaches will never survive at BC. We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!

in the history of bad posts on this board, this post may be the worst. I don't know how he does it, but corners has figured out how to post like a 16 year old that thinks he knows everything from his experience on ps college football dynasty mode. there is so much hyperbole, false assumption, and downright stupidity in his post, I don't know where to start criticizing.

CORNERS WORST POSTER for search bar purposes to quote in december

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:14 am
by DrJackRyan
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}: We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!


What a world it would be if LSU, Florida, South Carolina remain as steppingstones but somehow Boston College isn't.

Every college program in America is a "stepping stone" (except maybe Alabama) to some other job - NFL if not other college job.

If you doubt me ask Florida Coach Urban Meyer or LSU Coach Nick Saban.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:16 am
by claver2010
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
While this is conceptually true, its not the case with Morehead. Im not arguing that he would be good/bad, but he will not make a material difference in contributions or attendance, hes not a big enough name in the near term. To see the type of immediate impact that youre projecting, its someone like Kelly (or maybe O'Brien). Maybe in the long run with success (if he were to stay), but for immediate impact, you need to make a bigger splash.


correct

probably 90% of the people who go to bc games don't know who moorehead is

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:24 am
by eagletx
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The money is easy, do the math. The average attendance will go up each year with Moorhead. Just 5,000 per game for 6 games at $50 per seat is $1,250,000 x 5 years = $7.5 million. Average attendance has been 30,000 the last couple of years. I see the increase at least 10,000 and eventually 15,000. That is not counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc.

BC will lose more than 6.5 million if they do not buy Daz out.

Moorhead is the clear choice. I'm worried about MJ making the right choice. He is not a businessman and his comment at The Gridiron Club that BC would never pay a coach 8 million a year is premature. BC knows what their revenues are now, but if Moorhead is highly successful we do not know how much our revenues will increase. That number is unknown and without it one can never say what BC will be willing to pay a coach to protect that revenue stream. I remember telling a trustee friend of mine after TC's 2nd year that BC should offer him a ten year, ten million dollar contract. The trustee laughed saying that BC would never pay that for a coach and that the faculty would be in an uproar! Daz gets 2.5 million! The whole concern of image and faculty outrage has long since passed at BC. We need to hire Moorhead and keep him here for 25 years. Average to poor coaches will never survive at BC. We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!

in the history of bad posts on this board, this post may be the worst. I don't know how he does it, but corners has figured out how to post like a 16 year old that thinks he knows everything from his experience on ps college football dynasty mode. there is so much hyperbole, false assumption, and downright stupidity in his post, I don't know where to start criticizing.

CORNERS WORST POSTER for search bar purposes to quote in december


You captured my thoughts exactly....where to start....

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:46 am
by hansen
I miss college football dynasty mode on PlayStation. :shrug

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:48 am
by HJS
eagletx {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:in the history of bad posts on this board, this post may be the worst. I don't know how he does it, but corners has figured out how to post like a 16 year old that thinks he knows everything from his experience on ps college football dynasty mode. there is so much hyperbole, false assumption, and downright stupidity in his post, I don't know where to start criticizing.

CORNERS WORST POSTER for search bar purposes to quote in december


You captured my thoughts exactly....where to start....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:13 am
by DuchesneEast
hansen {l Wrote}:I miss college football dynasty mode on PlayStation. :shrug


Want to start an online league? I still have the last season they released it.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:14 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:The money is easy, do the math. The average attendance will go up each year with Moorhead. Just 5,000 per game for 6 games at $50 per seat is $1,250,000 x 5 years = $7.5 million. Average attendance has been 30,000 the last couple of years. I see the increase at least 10,000 and eventually 15,000. That is not counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc.

BC will lose more than 6.5 million if they do not buy Daz out.

Moorhead is the clear choice. I'm worried about MJ making the right choice. He is not a businessman and his comment at The Gridiron Club that BC would never pay a coach 8 million a year is premature. BC knows what their revenues are now, but if Moorhead is highly successful we do not know how much our revenues will increase. That number is unknown and without it one can never say what BC will be willing to pay a coach to protect that revenue stream. I remember telling a trustee friend of mine after TC's 2nd year that BC should offer him a ten year, ten million dollar contract. The trustee laughed saying that BC would never pay that for a coach and that the faculty would be in an uproar! Daz gets 2.5 million! The whole concern of image and faculty outrage has long since passed at BC. We need to hire Moorhead and keep him here for 25 years. Average to poor coaches will never survive at BC. We can't keep cycling through 2.5 million per year coaches, eating their contracts to the tune of 5 million per year, 2.5 for the old coach still on the payroll and 2.5 for the new coach! We can't be a fucking steppingstone!

in the history of bad posts on this board, this post may be the worst. I don't know how he does it, but corners has figured out how to post like a 16 year old that thinks he knows everything from his experience on ps college football dynasty mode. there is so much hyperbole, false assumption, and downright stupidity in his post, I don't know where to start criticizing.

CORNERS WORST POSTER for search bar purposes to quote in december

One would think he'd go out on a high note after being right about serving alcohol in Alumni, but instead he decides to double-down on stupidity.

CORNERS WORST POSTER

CORNERS SPM

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:15 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
probably 90% of the people who go to bc games don't know who moorehead is

90% might be too generous

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:25 am
by twballgame9
Back to the big boy conversation, Chip Kelly or Bill O'Brien would boost attendance, and more importantly from a fiscal standpoint, cause more checkbooks to open.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:35 am
by TobaccoRoadEagle
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Back to the big boy conversation, Chip Kelly or Bill O'Brien would boost attendance, and more importantly from a fiscal standpoint, cause more checkbooks to open.

i think the impact would be minimal in both attendance and donation prior to a change in the winning percentage/product on the field.

we as a society are much more prone to dropping something out of our lives than we are to adding something to our lives; and the locals have proven time and again that they have no interest in bc. a coaching change alone would not alter that behavior in my opinion

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:03 am
by HJS
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Back to the big boy conversation, Chip Kelly or Bill O'Brien would boost attendance, and more importantly from a fiscal standpoint, cause more checkbooks to open.

i think the impact would be minimal in both attendance and donation prior to a change in the winning percentage/product on the field.

we as a society are much more prone to dropping something out of our lives than we are to adding something to our lives; and the locals have proven time and again that they have no interest in bc. a coaching change alone would not alter that behavior in my opinion

I think you are both correct. First, teddy is correct that ONLY a coach like Bill O'Brien or Chip Kelly would generate the type of buzz/attention that would result in a marked increase in ticket sales and donations. But, TRE is correct that human nature is such that those increases would be muted as to what they might have been 10-years ago (i.e. before most gave up caring).

As for the locals, they would initially be attracted to BC football as a novelty based upon the sudden noise surrounding a big-name hire. However, that will fade as soon as they realize we aren't immediately/magically going 10-2.

I think those who want a Dazoo change need to be prepared for a replacement coach who will work for under $2mm per year. Now... there are some up-and-comers who would potentially take the job (e.g. Neal Brown, Joe Moorhead) for that price. There are also likely some retreads that would be willing to get another chance as well (e.g. Schiano, Miles, Strong). All their interest is based upon their knowledge that they would be one good season at BC away from getting a real job. Chip or BOB ain't happening... so there is as much reason to discuss them as there is filling in the corners.

Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:41 am
by BCMurt09
Logitano {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:article on our next hc: https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... se-fordham


He would do very well at BC. :ace


Valecce and Moorhead. The irony of Fordham saving BC football.