Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Yes, ticket sales increased under TC. I doubt you went to many games. Do you remember when the stadium was expanded? Who do you think was responsible for those extra 12,000 season ticket sales? I know that business is not your field and that is why I try to keep things simple for you to understand.

no, retard. all your math assumes 100% capacity in year one. in coughlin' first two years, the team sucked and ticket sales dropped. tc created a team and turned it into a top 15 team before Jacksonville called. yet you think signing Moorhead means 50,000 in season tickets next year is dumber than, well anything.

please choke on a porno cock and die

[Eaglekeeper]

TC had a very successful second season at BC. You needed to be there the year before TC arrived to see the increase in ticket sales. It's obvious you never went to the games. It's late and I apologize for interrupting your gay porn.

[HJS]

They lost tix in the move from Cowboy Jack to Frank Beamer to Jimmy Laycock to Tom Coughlin. It wasn't until he took Miami to the brink in the last game of the year that folks started to pay attention to what he was doing. The following year he started off undefeated and rose into the top 10 until Holtz on-side kicked his ass. But, by that point, there was major interest generated by TC winning.

This just proves that "if you win, fans will come." That is a position much different than "the mere announcement of Moorhead or Donnie Brown will generate such immediate interest that makeshift bleachers will be manufactured for the corners."

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

TC had a very successful second season at BC. You needed to be there the year before TC arrived to see the increase in ticket sales. It's obvious you never went to the games. It's late and I apologize for interrupting your gay porn.

I was there 90-94. I saw Tom coughlin take over and I saw the seats just as empty as the great second year transpired. It's late and I apologize for interrupting your count of chromosomes that are greater than the rest of us

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

They lost tix in the move from Cowboy Jack to Frank Beamer to Jimmy Laycock to Tom Coughlin. It wasn't until he took Miami to the brink in the last game of the year that folks started to pay attention to what he was doing. The following year he started off undefeated and rose into the top 10 until Holtz on-side kicked his ass. But, by that point, there was major interest generated by TC winning.

This just proves that "if you win, fans will come." That is a position much different than "the mere announcement of Moorhead or Donnie Brown will generate such immediate interest that makeshift bleachers will be manufactured for the corners."

This. Moj and I agree on the reality... much different than your corner porn

[twballgame9]

Yes, ticket sales increased under TC. I doubt you went to many games. Do you remember when the stadium was expanded? Who do you think was responsible for those extra 12,000 season ticket sales? I know that business is not your field and that is why I try to keep things simple for you to understand.

Put together some numbers here to form a word I see, corners.

[Eaglekeeper]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

I never said by signing Moorhead that the fans would immediately come back. He has to win and I think he will. The argument over having to pay Daz 2.5 million for the next two seasons and not being able to more than make up that revenue up with increased ticket sales is stupid. Nobody is coming back for another season of this shit!

[Corporal Funishment]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

I never said by signing Moorhead that the fans would immediately come back. He has to win and I think he will. The argument over having to pay Daz 2.5 million for the next two seasons and not being able to more than make up that revenue up with increased ticket sales is stupid. Nobody is coming back for another season of this shit!

How did the wife and kids take it when you lost your job at the cement plant to that upstart pelican? Did the invention of the transistor radio make it any easier?

[HJS]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

[angrychicken]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

That was a FANTASTIC night. I made $300 bucks.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Yes, ticket sales increased under TC. I doubt you went to many games. Do you remember when the stadium was expanded? Who do you think was responsible for those extra 12,000 season ticket sales? I know that business is not your field and that is why I try to keep things simple for you to understand.

How can you spend so much time on this board and not have a ballpark idea of how old people are or what years they were a student at BC? TRE has written missives about various home games he attended during the TC years and he doesn't even like sports.

[twballgame9]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

I applaud the effort here on the part of HJS.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

That was a FANTASTIC night. I made $300 bucks.

yes - gay sex was much more of a novelty back then and as a result cost much more than it does today. even hansen is tired of hearing you talk about this in the eo lounge

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

I applaud the effort here on the part of HJS.

the part where he ignores the 12,000 seat comment relating to the 1994/1995 stadium expansion (that caused my graduation to be held on shea field)? the rest of it is pretty accurate (right down to the connecticut state championships)

[JesuitIvy]

I don't think any game at BC was crazier than that 91 Miami game. I swear local sports guy Bob Lobel was almost as drunk as everyone else in the Mods that night as he was doing his takes. And not to be a grouchy old man type, but I can't imagine any BC student body matching how enthusiastic those early 90s group were. My class holds the record for freshmen sent to the emergency room for alcohol poisoning! woo-hoo!

[DomingoOrtiz]

Alumni Stadium was overflowing for that Miami game at the end of year one. They added 12,000 seats to meet the demand for tickets in what would have been TC's 4th season.

Put the BC-Miami game in proper context.

BC had been dying a slow death at the end of Bicknell's tenure. TC came in with zero fanfare. However, by the end of the first season, there was a sense that BC was on the right track. Combine that with what was a bit of a novelty that was a much ballyhooed recruit starting at QB coming into his own as a sophomore. But, the subsequent years' success colors the nostalgia of this game.

The real reason this was an event... Miami was again #1 in the nation (and had been dominating college FB in a manner Saban could never dream). This was the first time The U would visit Chestnut Hill since the Miracle in Miami. What's more, BC (prior to expansion) only held 32,000. The makeshift high school bleachers that were placed in the open end of the stadium held a few hundred more... not 12k. If you IBpedia this bitch, you will note that the recorded attendance was 32,071. This was night game in an era where tailgating was allowed. So, the fans were well lubricated by kickoff as they had been drinking for 12-hours by that point.

Finally, all this generated interest increased exponentially because the game was nationally televised... a rarity in sports back then. This was due solely to Miami's lofty status and a chance to rehash the Miracle in Miami (as the game was being played on 11/23, which was the 6-year anniversary). So, this was a major happening on the Boston sports scene. While they may have not stayed until the end or cheered as loudly, similar ticket amounts would have been sold if 6-months earlier (instead of TC) Gladchuck poached the hot-shot coach at Cheshire High School winning State Championships every year in Connecticut.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2014/11/ ... ge-14-1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Miam ... tball_team

TC's very first home game was sold out.

[HJS]

I never said by signing Moorhead that the fans would immediately come back. He has to win and I think he will. The argument over having to pay Daz 2.5 million for the next two seasons and not being able to more than make up that revenue up with increased ticket sales is stupid. Nobody is coming back for another season of this shit!

And now... let me play devils' advocate. You have touted the economic windfall associated with the hiring of Moorhead. Yet, you now admit the reality that such financial gains will not be realized in Year 1. Here is the economic ramifications with such an admission (spoiler alert: changing coaches is not the economic no-brainer you pretend).

For the purposes of this analysis I make the following assumptions: (1) Daz makes $2.5mm each year through the end of 2020, (2) Daz's replacement will also make $2.5mm and (3) where we are now in revenues is the baseline as (after a decade of irrelevance) these fans have proven nearly impossible to kill off.

In 2018, the total Head Coach salary obligation balloons to $5mm (for Daz to stay home and the new coach to work). With that, everyone agrees comes no appreciable economic gain. So, 1-year in, the school just dug a $2.5mm deeper hole.

In 2019, if Moorhead is TC-like in quality, there is an uptick in revenues due to increased tickets. That uptick is not in the form of season tix, but like TC's 2nd year... in the form of single game tix from locals and alums as curiosity is piqued by a sudden run up the National Rankings. It is complete folly to think this interest (which necessarily means the first games of the year to have the same financial malaise of the previous year) will equate to massive revenue increases. But, for argument sake, let's blow it out as a $1.5mm increase y.o.y. After 2 years, the program is now in a $4mm hole.

In 2020, if Moorhead is TC-like, season tix are being gobbled up. The financial gain here is meaningful. Let's say that the additional revenues increase another $1.5mm y.o.y (meaning $3mm more in game-day revs over what Daz delivered). In this year, the hole decreases to a $3.5mm net loss.

In 2021, BC no longer has to pay Daz to stay home. Not only do we take that obligation off, but we are now crushing it with an additional $3mm in revs thanks to Moorhead. Everything is perfect (i.e. the aforementioned net loss gets flat in this year). However... TC never made it to Year 4. Moorhead (with TC-like success) wouldn't either. Either, he will be gone to a better program or, if we were to keep him, we'd be paying him twice what he was making (thus occupying the additional revenues gleaned).

That... is the best case scenario. There is also a chance that Moorhead (like Donnie Brown's D) takes 2 full seasons before he starts moving the program forward. Such a result, deepens the losses by an additional $2.5mm. That is a the second best scenario (that after 3 years, we are looking at a net loss of approximately $6mm). Then there is the (most likely) possibility that Moorhead isn't the answer and can only deliver Dazoo-like results. In such a situation, firing Daziani is a net $7.5mm mistake.

Sure, there is a chance for better donations (though we had one of our best years coming off an 0-fer-ACC season). Sure, there is the Flutie Effect and exposure benefits that come from a winning program (though some say that the real benefits are over-hyped... as evidenced by our academic ranking going up the last 10 years). Again... at the end of the day, firing Daz is a very expensive proposition that, not only is unlikely to provide profitable results, but also puts Jarmond's head on the chopping block (ala BB) should his chosen FHCRD-like hire fails to overwhelm.

[HJS]

TC's very first home game was sold out.

Which had absolutely nothing to do with it being against Michigan... who was ranked #2... and had to-be-Heisman winner Desmond Howard (who did his first Heisman "pose" on the astroturf of Alumni).

[twballgame9]

I am enjoying the era of HJS arguments with factual support.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I am enjoying the era of HJS arguments with factual support.

i'm kinda wondering if equifax gave his posting credentials to a good poster or something

[eepstein0]

Daz killed me off and I thought I’d be the last person to stop going or watching.

You’ll definitely kill off even more if you bring him back next year.

Chip Kelly would cause a huge donation and ticket sale bump. None of the rest of the guys mentioned would

[Eaglekeeper]

HJS: I can see that you are not a business person and that you believe that the world is flat. You forgot to mention the sure decline in ticket sales, donations, etc. by bringing Daz back, not to mention the further damage to the reputation of the program making it even more difficult to find a new coach. I am glad you admit that a successful coach will increase revenue, but those gains only happen when you get rid of Daz. Your position arguing for the return of Daz is indefensible to anyone with an ounce of common business sense.

TC came in with high accolades from the NYG. People familiar with the program remember him well as Flutie's QB coach. Without TC's success BC would not have sold out the expanded stadium in 1994. It makes zero economic sense to bring back a failing head coach, it only deepens the losses and delays the increases in revenue. The first rule of business is to increase revenues immediately. Expenses will not be an issue if you focus on revenue. You're focusing on the wrong side of the ledger.

[ATLeagle]

I don't have the particulars of Addazio's contract but it is unlikely that BC would owe him 2.5 M per year for each of the remaining years. Typically lots of the comp is tied to being the active coach like shoes, media appearances, bowl bonuses, grad bonuses, the car.

Also if he takes another job, BC gets partial relief.

If these deals were super lucrative our last coach wouldn't be coaching NM State for pennies.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

HJS: I can see that you are not a business person and that you believe that the world is flat. You forgot to mention the sure decline in ticket sales, donations, etc. by bringing Daz back, not to mention the further damage to the reputation of the program making it even more difficult to find a new coach. I am glad you admit that a successful coach will increase revenue, but those gains only happen when you get rid of Daz. Your position arguing for the return of Daz is indefensible to anyone with an ounce of common business sense.

TC came in with high accolades from the NYG. People familiar with the program remember him well as Flutie's QB coach. Without TC's success BC would not have sold out the expanded stadium in 1994. It makes zero economic sense to bring back a failing head coach, it only deepens the losses and delays the increases in revenue. The first rule of business is to increase revenues immediately. Expenses will not be an issue if you focus on revenue. You're focusing on the wrong side of the ledger.

Clearly you are not a business man. You focus on expenses until the revenue shows up.

[Eaglekeeper]

100% wrong! You're in business to generate revenue not watch expenses. You have to spend money to make money in any business. BC already has a big chunk of revenue from the ACC, FF, ticket sales, etc. I'm talking about maximizing the revenue by investing in a good coach and in building facilities. The issue is not how much Addazio is owed, BC can always find a few donors to foot the buyout if it makes Leahy feel better. The issue is the management of the program. We all agree that keeping Addazio is a major mistake and we all agree with HJS that these idiots might just do exactly that over relatively short dollars given the huge increase in TV revenue from the ACC.

BC needs a very good coach to be able to compete in the ACC given our recruiting disadvantages and tougher academic standards. We have enough history to understand at this point that the bottom falls out when we hire average to poor coaches. We have to accept that fact otherwise we are doomed to repeating our history of being mostly bottom dwellers with an occasional flash in the pan.

I had a discussion with a trustee friend of mine who was very high up in command under Fr. Monan. I told him that BC should give TC a ten year, ten million dollar contract back in 1992. He laughed and said that BC would never pay a coach that much money, the faculty would be in an outrage. We're paying Addazio 2.5 million! The days of faculty outrage over coaches salaries have long since passed. Crazy salaries are the norm. Duke gets it and that is why Coach K gets 10 million per year. He earns the school a lot more than that and Duke has avoided turnover in an important position for decades.

The point is simple, if BC wants a very good football program then they have to pay the market rate for a coach. You can never win the expense game, but you can win the revenue game. If Chip Kelly is the best choice then offer him the job and pay whatever it takes to sign him and if successful keep him long term. You cannot be successful letting your most important employee walk out the door over money. If you don't like how much coaches cost then work through the NCAA to get a cap on coaches salaries. Bill Flynn was instrumental in getting a cap on the number of scholarships at 85. Pitt gave out 120 scholarships one year and BC could never compete in that system. Until sensible reform happens BC has to deal with the present reality. If they had top 20 programs they would have more leverage in the NCAA.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

hey, fuckface... where are your revenues coming from? the disenfranchised alumni? the apathetic locals? the ghosts that live in a cornfield? you are a dreamer with no basis in reality; money is real. Empty seats are real. Moorhead may be in your dreams every night but he's not enough of a name to make a splash.

go back to eating dicks and filling corners, oh clueless one. Leave this conversation to the grown ups that live in the real world

[Eaglekeeper]

If you don't believe a winning coach can increase revenue significantly then there is zero reason to fire Daz. Your business strategy ensures that BC will continue to be a doormat in the ACC.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

100% wrong! You're in business to generate revenue not watch expenses. You have to spend money to make money in any business. BC already has a big chunk of revenue from the ACC, FF, ticket sales, etc. I'm talking about maximizing the revenue by investing in a good coach and in building facilities. The issue is not how much Addazio is owed, BC can always find a few donors to foot the buyout if it makes Leahy feel better. The issue is the management of the program. We all agree that keeping Addazio is a major mistake and we all agree with HJS that these idiots might just do exactly that over relatively short dollars given the huge increase in TV revenue from the ACC.

BC needs a very good coach to be able to compete in the ACC given our recruiting disadvantages and tougher academic standards. We have enough history to understand at this point that the bottom falls out when we hire average to poor coaches. We have to accept that fact otherwise we are doomed to repeating our history of being mostly bottom dwellers with an occasional flash in the pan.

I had a discussion with a trustee friend of mine who was very high up in command under Fr. Monan. I told him that BC should give TC a ten year, ten million dollar contract back in 1992. He laughed and said that BC would never pay a coach that much money, the faculty would be in an outrage. We're paying Addazio 2.5 million! The days of faculty outrage over coaches salaries have long since passed. Crazy salaries are the norm. Duke gets it and that is why Coach K gets 10 million per year. He earns the school a lot more than that and Duke has avoided turnover in an important position for decades.

The point is simple, if BC wants a very good football program then they have to pay the market rate for a coach. You can never win the expense game, but you can win the revenue game. If Chip Kelly is the best choice then offer him the job and pay whatever it takes to sign him and if successful keep him long term. You cannot be successful letting your most important employee walk out the door over money. If you don't like how much coaches cost then work through the NCAA to get a cap on coaches salaries. Bill Flynn was instrumental in getting a cap on the number of scholarships at 85. Pitt gave out 120 scholarships one year and BC could never compete in that system. Until sensible reform happens BC has to deal with the present reality. If they had top 20 programs they would have more leverage in the NCAA.

There's no way you graduated from business school anywhere.

[twballgame9]

hey, fuckface... where are your revenues coming from? the disenfranchised alumni? the apathetic locals? the ghosts that live in a cornfield? you are a dreamer with no basis in reality; money is real. Empty seats are real. Moorhead may be in your dreams every night but he's not enough of a name to make a splash.

go back to eating dicks and filling corners, oh clueless one. Leave this conversation to the grown ups that live in the real world

Most of the revenues actually come in a check from the socialist bowl/TV revenue sharing agreement for the ACC. Which is precisely why there is no incentive to hire a good coach because they don't think it matters. Alumni could be completely empty and they would still bring in more gross revenue than they did in 2004.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

If you don't believe a winning coach can increase revenue significantly then there is zero reason to fire Daz. Your business strategy ensures that BC will continue to be a doormat in the ACC.

yes, we need a new coach, but your financial "analysis" is the most retarded thing ever posted here. and that includes nospace posts

keep Heinz or fire Heinz and this program is still losing out on coaching salaries for the next 3 years. that's not the reason you fire him, it's not a slam dunk, it's not a certainty. A new hire is just as much risk as the current asshole. To ignore that is American-Eastian thinking