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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:30 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:I may be in the minority, but I've always liked Frye and think he has done a pretty good job in his time here. ND would be a near perfect move for him.

That said, if he leaves, I have confidence that Daz will bring in a quality replacement. Daz has done a very good job while at BC finding quality assistants. This likely comes from him being a well-liked, known quantity in the coaching fraternity. Further, with all his considerable faults, Daz is legitimately an excellent OLine coach. Saban/Harbaugh/Meyer would all hire him in a heartbeat (and give him some sort of Assistant Head Coach title) to coach their OL. If Daz has less time planning for gameday because he is being more hands-on with the OL... that is probably to the betterment of everyone.

yes - there have been no complains about the o-line in frye's 5 years here. he's been an excellent coach that certainly drove the strength of the offense for all of his tenure. it's totally because of him and his 5 years of stellar o-line play that we're the school known as o-line u


3 of 5 years they had an elite rushing attack.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:01 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:I may be in the minority, but I've always liked Frye and think he has done a pretty good job in his time here. ND would be a near perfect move for him.

That said, if he leaves, I have confidence that Daz will bring in a quality replacement. Daz has done a very good job while at BC finding quality assistants. This likely comes from him being a well-liked, known quantity in the coaching fraternity. Further, with all his considerable faults, Daz is legitimately an excellent OLine coach. Saban/Harbaugh/Meyer would all hire him in a heartbeat (and give him some sort of Assistant Head Coach title) to coach their OL. If Daz has less time planning for gameday because he is being more hands-on with the OL... that is probably to the betterment of everyone.

yes - there have been no complains about the o-line in frye's 5 years here. he's been an excellent coach that certainly drove the strength of the offense for all of his tenure. it's totally because of him and his 5 years of stellar o-line play that we're the school known as o-line u


3 of 5 years they had an elite rushing attack.

Why are you trying to talk football to someone who doesn't even like sports?
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby hansen on Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:26 pm

I’m too drunk to pick up on sarcasm
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:09 pm

Kevin Sumlin got the Arizona State job (as expected and hoped for by their fans).
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:43 pm

It is the University of Arizona. Arizona State got Herm Edwards. Neither are good choices and neither are particularly good at coaching football. Arizona should have just asked Dick Tomey to come out of retirement. Anyone who wins ten games at SJSU can win in Tucson.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby MattTheEagle on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:13 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:It is the University of Arizona. Arizona State got Herm Edwards. Neither are good choices and neither are particularly good at coaching football. Arizona should have just asked Dick Tomey to come out of retirement. Anyone who wins ten games at SJSU can win in Tucson.

Sumlin is a great coach.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:11 pm

In my mind, ASU and Zona are different campuses of the same party school. Apologies for the confusion. I like Sumlin... always have. But, RichRod and Graham were good coaches too. That said, both programs have underperformed. No excuse for a school with no academic requirements for even the regular gen-pop student to struggle getting athletes with zero interest in skoolin’.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:58 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:It is the University of Arizona. Arizona State got Herm Edwards. Neither are good choices and neither are particularly good at coaching football. Arizona should have just asked Dick Tomey to come out of retirement. Anyone who wins ten games at SJSU can win in Tucson.


Shouldn’t you be ranting over on the basketball board about St Bonnie’s after our latest big basketball win?

Sumlin is a very good coach
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby b0mberMan on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:50 am

Sumlin's probably not as bad as he seemed at A&M. He's probably served better by not being at a place that has lower expectations for themselves so it won't look as bad when he can't beat USC/make it to the Pac-12 title game on a yearly basis.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:10 pm

Kiffin hired Charlie Weis Jr to be his OC. While the players on the field have to be the best of the best in relatively objective measurements (hits ball farthest, runs fastest, etc), coaching may have some of the worst cronyism of any industry around.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:57 pm

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Kiffin hired Charlie Weis Jr to be his OC. While the players on the field have to be the best of the best in relatively objective measurements (hits ball farthest, runs fastest, etc), coaching my have some of the worst cronyism of any industry around.

Which is a shocking development from the son of Monte Kiffin.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 am

Per Bruce Feldman, FHCRD promoted to OC at tOSU.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby angrychicken on Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:18 am

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Per Bruce Feldman, FHCRD promoted to OC at tOSU.

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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:36 am

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Per Bruce Feldman, FHCRD promoted to OC at tOSU.

He was already co-offensive coordinator. Now, he is offensive coordinator. Note that Kevin Wilson is not being demoted and is also offensive coordinator. Essentially, there is no change in HCRD's responsibilities. So, while Kevin Wilson is still calling the shots (like last year), HCRD will no longer be sullied by "co-" in his title. That would be a really crappy deal for a coach who allegedly turned down Tennessee OC and the chance to work with the player his mentor (Chip Kelly) was willing to gamble his entire career on.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chip ... s-mariota/
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby dick ritchie on Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:00 pm

Also per Bruce Feldman, Chip Kelly has hired Deep Sea Dana as QBs coach at UCLA.

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/955891866469216256
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby claver2010 on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:17 am

the campanile rumor seems to be fake news (or at least we don't need to worry about it anymore)

Minnesota hired a coach from ASU :shock to be their db coach
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:04 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:the campanile rumor seems to be fake news (or at least we don't need to worry about it anymore)

Minnesota hired a coach from ASU :shock to be their db coach

The Minnesota rumor never made sense. He didn't overlap with Fleck... neither as a player or coach (Fleck was only in Piscataway from 2011-2012). Also, Chestnut Hill is the furthest away from Fair Lawn he's ever been (i.e. no particular connection to that area of the country). Finally, the offer was never to be coordinator (only HCRD would turn down such a chance to remain a position coach).

Now, I could see a panic move if Dazoo was close to being fired. But, Daz's seat is colder than leaving your wife and kids because you knocked-up and butterface cheerleader.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:02 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:It is the University of Arizona. Arizona State got Herm Edwards. Neither are good choices and neither are particularly good at coaching football. Arizona should have just asked Dick Tomey to come out of retirement. Anyone who wins ten games at SJSU can win in Tucson.


Shouldn’t you be ranting over on the basketball board about St Bonnie’s after our latest big basketball win?

Sumlin is a very good coach


Not really. Sumlin is a slightly above average coach who was given unlimited resources at A&M, lucked into a Heisman Trophy QB and still was basically a 9-4/8-5 coach. He will find that he enjoys almost none of those advantages in Tucson--although he might have a Heisman candidate at QB, which is probably why he got hired.

As for the Bonnies, nope, there is nothing more to be said although I did get a great story from Schmidt on Butt Cutt's coaching search that saddled us with Jimmy C. It was actually worse than I even imagined.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby Cadillac90 on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:30 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:It is the University of Arizona. Arizona State got Herm Edwards. Neither are good choices and neither are particularly good at coaching football. Arizona should have just asked Dick Tomey to come out of retirement. Anyone who wins ten games at SJSU can win in Tucson.


Shouldn’t you be ranting over on the basketball board about St Bonnie’s after our latest big basketball win?

Sumlin is a very good coach


Not really. Sumlin is a slightly above average coach who was given unlimited resources at A&M, lucked into a Heisman Trophy QB and still was basically a 9-4/8-5 coach. He will find that he enjoys almost none of those advantages in Tucson--although he might have a Heisman candidate at QB, which is probably why he got hired.

As for the Bonnies, nope, there is nothing more to be said although I did get a great story from Schmidt on Butt Cutt's coaching search that saddled us with Jimmy C. It was actually worse than I even imagined.


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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:34 pm

Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:... I did get a great story from Schmidt on Butt Cutt's coaching search that saddled us with Jimmy C. It was actually worse than I even imagined.


Do tell

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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby 2001Eagle on Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:54 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
Cadillac90 {l Wrote}:
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:... I did get a great story from Schmidt on Butt Cutt's coaching search that saddled us with Jimmy C. It was actually worse than I even imagined.


Do tell

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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:03 am

This may have an impact on recruiting.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... h_nun.html

Nunzio Campanile (Bergen Catholic head coach) is leaving to be Rutgers' RB coach. His brother, Seton Hall Prep's head coach (Vito Campanile), and Dan Sabella (Paramus Catholic head coach) are rumored to be front runners. I won't be surprised to see Toal take the gig if he's contractually able.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:28 am

HJS {l Wrote}:This may have an impact on recruiting.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... h_nun.html

Nunzio Campanile (Bergen Catholic head coach) is leaving to be Rutgers' RB coach. His brother, Seton Hall Prep's head coach (Vito Campanile), and Dan Sabella (Paramus Catholic head coach) are rumored to be front runners. I won't be surprised to see Toal take the gig if he's contractually able.


Really interesting and will have an effect without question.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby eagle33 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:01 pm

Hearing Schiano to the Pats as DC.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:47 pm

eagle33 {l Wrote}:Hearing Schiano to the Pats as DC.

That actually makes a lot of sense... but, I feel bad for Flores (who seemed to be in line).
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:04 pm

There are a lot of rumors going around including McDaniels coming back. Not sure I would believe anything yet.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby hansen on Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:28 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:There are a lot of rumors going around including McDaniels coming back. Not sure I would believe anything yet.


What happened to the patriots defense yesterday? Or even the eagles for that matter.
It was like a WAC game last night.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:44 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:There are a lot of rumors going around including McDaniels coming back. Not sure I would believe anything yet.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... colts/amp/

Agree with the article that if he turns down the Colts, it is because he has been told that Beliceck would be announcing his retirement (which I guess could include after next season).
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:47 pm

I think the rumors are probably bullshit. It seems pretty clear Belichick isn't going anywhere. But who knows.
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Re: Coaching Carousel/Candidates Mega Thread

Postby flyingelvii on Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:21 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:There are a lot of rumors going around including McDaniels coming back. Not sure I would believe anything yet.


What happened to the patriots defense yesterday? Or even the eagles for that matter.
It was like a WAC game last night.

The same as the rest of the year. They weren't actually good.
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