2018 Recruiting Thread

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:32 am

hansen {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I don't even think it's likely he's gone let alone a foregone conclusion.

This team has the talent for 8 wins and it should be a good year. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts together a 4-5 win campaign that forces Marmont's hand.


Only in your sick and twisted dreams does this team lose eight games.

All that said, I think there is universal support on the board that the team has the talent to win 8-games. I think there is also universal support on the board that there is no way Daz will be able to get to 8-wins. How close/far he comes to 8 will determine his fate.

I think Daz is in a position where he must perform this year. Now... you can argue that pretty much every Power 5 coach is in that position every year. It just feels different for us because BC does things in a way that a mildly productive coach enters into a put-up-shut-up year. Usually, mildly productive coaches are safe or shockingly fired for reasons that have nothing to do with on-field performance. Otherwise, the only coaches who are terminated are those who are unmitigated disasters AND THEN only after their contract has appropriately aged.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:53 am

in my mind, daz's future is based on how far up uban meyer's ass he was over the last few years. i'd guess that armin tamzarian has a "coach urban walks on water" aspect to him, like everyone else in and around columbus - and if coach meyer has said good things about t.s. slaughter, then slaughter gets more leeway. if meyer has said that the heinz hammer rode touchdown jebus to a heisman win and national championship and then turned that into shitty head coaching stints in philly and boston, tamzarian is likely looking for a reason to fire the thin-skinned one.

it's almost as if his ho-hum 5-7, 6-6 or 7-5 doesn't matter
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:18 am

Slaughter has been doing Meyer's camps for awhile. Can't imagine Meyer telling the new AD he's terrible. I was presuming that the OSU connection was good for Slaughter, not bad.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby MilitantEagle on Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:28 am

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I don't even think it's likely he's gone let alone a foregone conclusion.

This team has the talent for 8 wins and it should be a good year. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts together a 4-5 win campaign that forces Marmont's hand.


Only in your sick and twisted dreams does this team lose eight games.

I would guess more people on this board believe 5-7 is a likelier outcome than 8-4. And that's purely because of the dummy raving and ranting up and down the sidelines.

Tre is probably right, and I'm guessing Daz got pretty far up Urban's ass the last few years, just look at the lead up to the championship game last year... That said, I will be shocked and disappointed if he gets to keep his job should he go 5-7 in year 5. The same year 5 that he said the team would be competing for championships in.


Agreed, we went 6-6 last year and we essentially trade the Wagner game for ND. 4 or 5 wins is not crazy talk.

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56-10 loss to Clemson
52-7 loss to Louisville
45-7 loss to FSU

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:12 pm

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Slaughter has been doing Meyer's camps for awhile. Can't imagine Meyer telling the new AD he's terrible. I was presuming that the OSU connection was good for Slaughter, not bad.

So do we think that he is safe at 5-7?

I'd say there is a 60% chance he is fired at 5-7. I'd say there is a 60% chance he is retained at 6-7 (6-6 with a bowl loss). I'd say there is a 75% chance he is retained at 7-6. If he hits 8-wins, I think there is discussion of an extension. I agree that Urban is a big fan of Daz. Urban handpicked Daz to be the interim HC at Florida. And, Urban suffered the slings-and-arrows of the Gator fandom (including losing a bit of his revered legacy) in order to keep Daz as his OC.

I will again point out that, if Daz wasn't an idiot, he could be a decent head coach. He is pretty good with the media, rubber chicken circuit and in recruiting. He is laughable on gameday (especially clock management) and terrible in offensive strategy. However, he could easily hire folks to solve those notable deficiencies. Heck, just giving Paul P complete authority for game day and giving the OC and DC complete authority for their sides of the ball would do it. But, I fully expect the gym teacher to be MORE hands-on with his job on the line... which means that a bowl invite is in serious jeopardy.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:46 pm

I agree with the sentiment that there are 3-4 opponents on the schedule that crushed BC and will probably beat BC most years. The caveat being twofold:

(1) over slaughter's regime, getting crushed by those teams was not the norm, and suspect it is not a trend. I'd guess you'll see them go back to losing closer with the occasional shot at an upset that we saw throughout the first 4 years.

(2) the rest of the schedule, subbing ND for Wagner notwithstanding, is and always will be pretty weak in comparison. Pointing to the other 3-4 opponents as an argument for why BC will lose 7 games is meaningless.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:22 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:I will again point out that, if Daz wasn't an idiot, he could be a decent head coach. He is pretty good with the media, rubber chicken circuit and in recruiting.

I think we all agree that he would do himself (and the program) a favor by taking a page from Dabo's playbook.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby Eaglekeeper on Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:20 pm

It's all about ticket sales and given the number of seats left for the ND game, Daz is not off to a good start. Don't rule out Daz accepting another job if he wins 7-8 games and BC is not offering an extension.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby ILikeBC on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:36 am

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:It's all about ticket sales and given the number of seats left for the ND game, Daz is not off to a good start. Don't rule out Daz accepting another job if he wins 7-8 games and BC is not offering an extension.


Who the fuck is gonna hire Daz for equal or more money you dimwit?
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:17 am

We're stuck with the Dazzler as long as he can keep scraping out crappy bowl berths more often than not. Given his scheduling proclivities, might be a while
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby DuchesneEast on Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:43 am

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:It's all about ticket sales and given the number of seats left for the ND game, Daz is not off to a good start. Don't rule out Daz accepting another job if he wins 7-8 games and BC is not offering an extension.


All the tickets left are garbage seats, there are lots of tix available for BC- UConn at Fenway also.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby Eaglekeeper on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:30 pm

If Daz wins 7 games he will have other offers. 5 seasons and 4 bowl games at BC gets him another AAC level job. Daz will convince some AD that BC has more recruiting restrictions than Army & Navy. Shit we hired him after a lesser performance at Temple.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:56 pm

Aaron Gethers committed. Offered in camp last week. From Bishop McDevitt, same school as Kobay White. Likely a CB, 5'11/185lb
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:10 am

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:Aaron Gethers committed. Offered in camp last week. From Bishop McDevitt, same school as Kobay White. Likely a CB, 5'11/185lb


Bad offers but ran a 4.48. If you can run like that I'm good.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:35 pm

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:06 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:Sounds like two more DB commitments from camp performances.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6359633/jason-maitre
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4503043/tyler-days


Ugh it's officially flier season again.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby MattTheEagle on Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:09 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Sounds like two more DB commitments from camp performances.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6359633/jason-maitre
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4503043/tyler-days


Ugh it's officially flier season again.

This. The last three commits have been complete fliers. Meh.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:16 pm

FWIW Maitre apparently ran in the 4.45-4.5 range. Don't think there will be a ton more fliers looking at the board. Like where BC is at for guys like Nate Bauer, Parker Devine, Khris Banks, Carlos Vettotello among others. Got some interesting guys planning to visit this month as well.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:20 pm

bceagles24 {l Wrote}:FWIW Maitre apparently ran in the 4.45-4.5 range. Don't think there will be a ton more fliers looking at the board. Like where BC is at for guys like Nate Bauer, Parker Devine, Khris Banks, Carlos Vettotello among others. Got some interesting guys planning to visit this month as well.


These guys at least have the physical attributes to be successful at CB. They all run a sub 4.5.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:04 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Sounds like two more DB commitments from camp performances.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6359633/jason-maitre
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4503043/tyler-days


Ugh it's officially flier season again.


Offers right out of camp worry me a shitload less than offers at the end of summer when Daz decides to stop recruiting until December. At least campers he and pasqualoni have evaluated these guys up close as opposed to relying on some hudl tape with the kids best highlights.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:24 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:Sounds like two more DB commitments from camp performances.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6359633/jason-maitre
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4503043/tyler-days


Ugh it's officially flier season again.


Offers right out of camp worry me a shitload less than offers at the end of summer when Daz decides to stop recruiting until December. At least campers he and pasqualoni have evaluated these guys up close as opposed to relying on some hudl tape with the kids best highlights.

It's really this. The whole purpose of an on-site camp is to evaluate players who you are aware of but have questions about. Camps are often the first step in a player blowing-up. When one of these players pulls a Danny Dalton, those critiquing the verbals today will be the first to scramble to the site with their OHNOES!!!!1!! posts when the kid flips. There is plenty to hate Daz about, but offers at camp ain't one of them.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:30 pm

Especially when the offers seem to be related to SPEEEEEEDDDDDDD
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:25 pm

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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:30 am



Rowland just put this up on EA, another good pick up, offers from Maryland and Purdue
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:08 am

He looks faster on tape than that 40 time.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby flakes on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:07 am

When's the last time we recruited a guy on offense that we said "he's going to be a difference-maker" ?? (Sherman Alston would be an incorrect answer)
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:09 am

flakes {l Wrote}:When's the last time we recruited a guy on offense that we said "he's going to be a difference-maker" ?? (Sherman Alston would be an incorrect answer)


Dillon, last year.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:10 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He looks faster on tape than that 40 time.

Supposedly ran a 4.48 at rivals camp. Not sure whether they are laser times there or not. But regardless he's pretty fast. Love this pickup could turn into an elite DB.
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby flakes on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:27 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:When's the last time we recruited a guy on offense that we said "he's going to be a difference-maker" ?? (Sherman Alston would be an incorrect answer)


Dillon, last year.


Man, i hope so, could picture him ending up at LB though. I just can't remmeber the last time we recrutied a guy that we knew could do something special with the ball in his hands
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Re: 2018 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:25 am

flakes {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:When's the last time we recruited a guy on offense that we said "he's going to be a difference-maker" ?? (Sherman Alston would be an incorrect answer)


Dillon, last year.


Man, i hope so, could picture him ending up at LB though. I just can't remmeber the last time we recrutied a guy that we knew could do something special with the ball in his hands


I'd argue Jeff Smith is that now, but you asked about what we thought during recruiting, and we did not think that about him then.
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