ATLeagle {l Wrote}:This argument is really stupid.
Because you are not a deep thinker. Instead, you over simplify.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:TOB inherited a much better situation than Daz. Hell, TOB still had TC recruits like MHass, Mike Cloud, Mutryn, etc still on the roster when he took over. The old Big East was a joke compared to the current ACC.
SFW? With the exception of the SEC West, EVERY conference in college football is "currently" a "joke" compared to the "current" ACC. That is because Louisville, Clemson, and FSU are all awesome. VPI is very good. And even PITT (the only team to beat the eventual national champions) is still.... real good. But your point is moot. The important question is would any TOB coached BC team have lost to 4 of those 5 teams (the only 4 they played)
by a combined score of 202 to 24? You know that never would have happened.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:We started each year with gimme wins like Temple and Rutgers (and yet TOB still lost to Temple). The middle of the pack BE teams like Pitt and WVU were all in somewhat down cycles. Miami was down when TOB took over. The only team rising was VT. Now MIami bounced back quickly, but they weren't "Miami" in his first two years.
Oh stop it. The old Big East was not that bad. How many times did Miami play for (win or lose) a national championship while they were in the Big East? If I remember correctly, that 2001 Miami team, BC was the only team that every challenged them and almost beat them. Has VPI ever been so strong as they were in 1999 and 2000, both years in the Big East? How good was Syracuse when Donovan McNabb was there? I do believe they were in the Big East and TOB coached against them.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:TOB was not some great recruiter. Look what he did at NC State with more freedom, more money, and better local talent? Addazio is a more dedicated recruiter and has upgraded the overall talent on the roster.
Now you sound like TOB. O'Brien kept saying that when he got to NCState, recruiting was going to be soooooo easy for him because now he didn't have to travel so far and work so hard to get the recruits he had to work for at BC. With all that "money" and "local talent" (your words.) Basically, TOB thought he could win and do while being lazy. And that all went to shit. His teams at NCState were never much of anything. That was it for his career.
Fact is, recruiting is hard work. You have to sell your ass. And TOB worked much harder, sold much harder, and travelled much further at BC. The results were on the field. I seriously doubt Matty Ice ever would have played for TOB at NCState. He never would have bothered to travel that far.
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Both were mediocre coaches. Addazio is probably worse at managing a game but both were equally stubborn, ultra conservative and prone to bad outdated football logic.
The one area where TOB has been better than Addazio is having a vision and a plan for BC Football. He wanted BC to be just like Welsh's UVA and that was probably not a bad fit and model at the time. He progressed every year and built it to his limits.
I don't think Addazio has that same vision or ability to execute. The changing offensive philosophy is the most telling example. We've run a very different offense year to year and that makes developing and recruiting talent that much more difficult. We didn't change OCs this year, but going up tempo (ten years too late) is another change. In the end I think Addazio will have a slightly worse record than TOB but will leave a Jags like situation talent wise.
TOB wound up recruiting the best QB in the country in his 7th year at BC. A year later, he recruited the 2 best defensive tackles in the country. You want to wait 2 or 3 more years of this shit to see if Addazio can duplicate those efforts? Not me. I'm done with him. But please, don't insult the intelligence of the people on this board and claim that Addazio is a better recruiter than TOB.
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