Mike Ruth to be Inducted into College Football Hall of Fame

[BostonCollege1]

Ruth was the product of better living through chemistry. He was the Rob Waldrop of the 80s. And just as there were very few Arizona Wildcats of the Dessert Swarm era were surprised that Rob was ineffective once he could not take the juice, nor were there many Eagles of the Flute era shocked that Ruth was ineffective once his back acne went away.

Not to excuse it, but weren't a ton of college players on 'roids then?

[flyingelvii]

Montana threw 25 TDs and 25 INTs in his career. Given it was a different era but those aren't good stats in any era unless you played for the Jets in the 60s. His career was also essentially 1.5 seasons and his senior year makes him a slightly above average QB in the Big 10.

I don't think Brady was a particularly good college player either. But thanks for pointing that out.

Check your stats, the interceptions were thrown his sophomore year. His junior and senior years were outstanding.

10 TDs with 9 INTs. 11 TDs with 8 INTs the year before. Try again.

He also received no Heisman votes, which is odd for an outstanding year.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Montana threw 25 TDs and 25 INTs in his career. Given it was a different era but those aren't good stats in any era unless you played for the Jets in the 60s. His career was also essentially 1.5 seasons and his senior year makes him a slightly above average QB in the Big 10.

I don't think Brady was a particularly good college player either. But thanks for pointing that out.

Check your stats, the interceptions were thrown his sophomore year. His junior and senior years were outstanding.

10 TDs with 9 INTs. 11 TDs with 8 INTs the year before. Try again.

He also received no Heisman votes, which is odd for an outstanding year.

why is glenn foley not in the cfhof yet?

[Dick Rosenthal]

Montana threw 25 TDs and 25 INTs in his career. Given it was a different era but those aren't good stats in any era unless you played for the Jets in the 60s. His career was also essentially 1.5 seasons and his senior year makes him a slightly above average QB in the Big 10.

I don't think Brady was a particularly good college player either. But thanks for pointing that out.

Check your stats, the interceptions were thrown his sophomore year. His junior and senior years were outstanding.

10 TDs with 9 INTs. 11 TDs with 8 INTs the year before. Try again.

He also received no Heisman votes, which is odd for an outstanding year.

Of course, you neglect to mention that he ran for 6 touchdowns in both his Sr and Jr year. You also neglect to mention that Marc Wilson, the 1st team All American playing in an absolute joke of a conference threw 15 Ints and was actually underwater on his TD-to INT ratio in the prior years. Art Schlister, the 2nd team AA was of course unbelievably underwater from a TD to INT perspective over those two years 27 INTs against 18 TDs--and also has a college QB Rating that is essentially identical to Montanas despite being a 3 time All-American (1st or 2nd team). Paul McDonald, the 3rd team AA is really the only one of the three who has far better numbers than Montana. Of course, McDonald was surrounded by an embarrassment of offensive riches, most notably the Heisman Trophy winner Charles White, as well as 19 additional offensive players who would go on to the NFL.

Anyway, you keep telling yourself the guy who lead 3 or 4 of the greatest comebacks in college football history, lead his team to a National Championship, was the MVP of a Cotton Bowl and had an NFL Film made about him before he took a snap in the league was a "mediocre" college QB. At least you are consistently stupid.

[flyingelvii]

I don't know why you keep bringing up other players like there's a quota for HOF members by year. I don't really care about the other players and, yes, I did look them up when looking at Montana's stats. Making a case against other players of the era isn't making a case for or against Montana. He was before my time and I'm sure he was a fine enough QB. Mediocre was probably overselling it. But of course he went to ND so he gets his balls washed.

[twballgame9]

I don't know why you keep bringing up other players like there's a quota for HOF members by year. I don't really care about the other players and, yes, I did look them up when looking at Montana's stats. Making a case against other players of the era isn't making a case for or against Montana. He was before my time and I'm sure he was a fine enough QB. Mediocre was probably overselling it. But of course he went to ND so he gets his balls washed.

The point of comparing him to the others is the criteria of awards. It's also pre Walsh so these numbers are pretty worthless. QBS were different.