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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby HJS on Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:52 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Do any of you seriously care if we make a bowl at 5-7?

I do. As a fan, I like the idea of seeing an extra game. I also like the idea that the future alums get a nice roadtrip. I also like the idea of 3-weeks of extra practice... because they certainly need it.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:42 am

HJS {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Do any of you seriously care if we make a bowl at 5-7?

I do. As a fan, I like the idea of seeing an extra game. I also like the idea that the future alums get a nice roadtrip. I also like the idea of 3-weeks of extra practice... because they certainly need it.


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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:49 am

HJS {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Do any of you seriously care if we make a bowl at 5-7?

I do. As a fan, I like the idea of seeing an extra game. I also like the idea that the future alums get a nice roadtrip. I also like the idea of 3-weeks of extra practice... because they certainly need it.

except when our moron wrestler runs towlie during those three weeks of practice
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hinghameagle on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:18 pm

even though the bowl might be on 8 mile the day after Christmas, it is a fun experience for the players. Some may rather be home for Christmas, but to go to a bowl is some form of a reward for the hard work they put in and may ease a touch of the pain from the past two years.

The practices don't matter. I know every coach says that, but with this team, I don't think it matters. They have not improved at all during the season and that is with all the practices they have had. Wad and Brown have probably thrown 5,000 passes and seen multiple scenarios in practice. An extra 1,000 throws isn't going to help them. they can do that on their own. They need game reps. They need the pressure of being in a game and all that comes with it. Brown cant get that this year, but Wade needed it and didn't get enough of it. I get the sense that Dazz is married to Brown and didn't want Wade getting reps, possibly looking good, and making things awkward for next year. By the way, has anyone confirmed that Brown is any good? Practice reports, player accounts, anything?

this team needs to come back next year with some idea of how to have a functional offensive line. It is still a huge deficiency for a team that wants to run the ball all game.

This team needs to identify who the quarterback is, and what type of style they want to play. Wade looks like he is a pocket passer who can run a little bit. Is Brown the same?

This team needs to move on from hilliman who has now had two straight years, one injured, one not of well below average production.

this team needs to find two wide receivers who can play at an ACC level. I had hopes for Thadd Smith, but outside of last week, he hasn't had the opportunity to play. I think Jeff Smith can be a 5-10 play per game guy. For those who think he is an ACC level talent, please check his box score from ACC games this year. I don't want to hear bout how awesome Borgensen and Glines are. My uneducated guess is that if they are both confident of their abilities, then they may be looking for somewhere else to play next season.

They seem competent at tight end.

Their Dline has been good, and loses a little. they need to recruit about 2-3 big bodies for the future, but present day I think they are ok for next year.

Linebacker we are in good shape for next year.

I thought the defensive backfield was going to be the number one strength of the team this year. they were solid and young last year and never got beat deep. they have been awful as a unit this year. they have a lot of returnees, so whether it is scheme or talent, they need to figure it out.

And somehow, and I cant believe I am typing this, the kicking has been a net positive for this team. The field goal percentage and extra point percentage has been very very good. I don't think they have attempted a filed goal outside of 35 yards, but the swing from last year has been dramatic.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hinghameagle on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:18 pm

even though the bowl might be on 8 mile the day after Christmas, it is a fun experience for the players. Some may rather be home for Christmas, but to go to a bowl is some form of a reward for the hard work they put in and may ease a touch of the pain from the past two years.

The practices don't matter. I know every coach says that, but with this team, I don't think it matters. They have not improved at all during the season and that is with all the practices they have had. Wad and Brown have probably thrown 5,000 passes and seen multiple scenarios in practice. An extra 1,000 throws isn't going to help them. they can do that on their own. They need game reps. They need the pressure of being in a game and all that comes with it. Brown cant get that this year, but Wade needed it and didn't get enough of it. I get the sense that Dazz is married to Brown and didn't want Wade getting reps, possibly looking good, and making things awkward for next year. By the way, has anyone confirmed that Brown is any good? Practice reports, player accounts, anything?

this team needs to come back next year with some idea of how to have a functional offensive line. It is still a huge deficiency for a team that wants to run the ball all game.

This team needs to identify who the quarterback is, and what type of style they want to play. Wade looks like he is a pocket passer who can run a little bit. Is Brown the same?

This team needs to move on from hilliman who has now had two straight years, one injured, one not of well below average production.

this team needs to find two wide receivers who can play at an ACC level. I had hopes for Thadd Smith, but outside of last week, he hasn't had the opportunity to play. I think Jeff Smith can be a 5-10 play per game guy. For those who think he is an ACC level talent, please check his box score from ACC games this year. I don't want to hear bout how awesome Borgensen and Glines are. My uneducated guess is that if they are both confident of their abilities, then they may be looking for somewhere else to play next season.

They seem competent at tight end.

Their Dline has been good, and loses a little. they need to recruit about 2-3 big bodies for the future, but present day I think they are ok for next year.

Linebacker we are in good shape for next year.

I thought the defensive backfield was going to be the number one strength of the team this year. they were solid and young last year and never got beat deep. they have been awful as a unit this year. they have a lot of returnees, so whether it is scheme or talent, they need to figure it out.

And somehow, and I cant believe I am typing this, the kicking has been a net positive for this team. The field goal percentage and extra point percentage has been very very good. I don't think they have attempted a filed goal outside of 35 yards, but the swing from last year has been dramatic.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:25 pm

I think Hilliman bounces back next year being another year removed from surgery.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:30 pm

I haven't really cared enough to look, but I suspect the secondary taking such a dramatic step backwards is in large part due to a lower blitz %. With that being said, one of the main culprits in the secondary's decline has been McClary, I think he would probably be better suited as a safety as he is bad in 1 on 1 coverage.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:46 pm

MD up 2 TDs at the end of 1 looking to fill bowl spot 74
Indiana-Purdue tied with 5mins left in the first quarter
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby HJS on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:17 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:I haven't really cared enough to look, but I suspect the secondary taking such a dramatic step backwards is in large part due to a lower blitz %. With that being said, one of the main culprits in the secondary's decline has been McClary, I think he would probably be better suited as a safety as he is bad in 1 on 1 coverage.

DBs coverage hasn't really been all that terrible. However, their play on the ball has been absolutely TERRIBLE.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:48 pm

Maryland and Indiana both winning at half time
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:07 pm

UL-Lafayette not doing us any favors either
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:30 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:So updating this bowl situation... => 83 teams for 80 spots (6 of which are still up for grabs)

66 Miami (6 wins)
67 NC State (6 wins)
68 TCU (6 wins)
69 Southern Miss (6 wins)
70 Maryland (6 wins)
71 Army (6 wins but needs NCAA waiver which would prob be granted)
72 992 Northwestern (5 wins)
73 990 Vanderbilt (5 wins)
74 984 North Texas (5 wins)

12pm games

Indiana (5-6) vs. Purdue
La Lafayette (4-6) vs ark st (with game next week)

330 games:

Duke (4-7) vs. Miami
Miss St (4-7) vs. Ole Miss (5-6)
SMU (5-6) vs Navy
Southern Alabama (5-5) vs Idaho (and NM State the following week)

Late games:

Texas-San Antonio (5-6) vs. Charlotte @ 7pm
Hawaii (5-7) vs. Umass @11pm


If Maryland holds on... looks extremely likely up 2+ TDs at the end of the third
It does not include the Purdue game which is within 1 TD
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:37 pm

Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:39 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:40 pm

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This is my current official count based on completed games and the BCI post.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:40 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots


You never fixed it last night.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby Salzano14 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:40 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:UL-Lafayette not doing us any favors either

Forgot about them -- they were on my spreadsheet but forgot to copy them over. They can be one of the two that lose and they have two games left.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby Salzano14 on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:43 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:http://i65.tinypic.com/1zdoq43.jpg

This is my current official count based on completed games and the BCI post.

To simplify things -- that chart goes down to 85 teams. Once 5 of them lose, the count is down to 80 and we'll be in.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:45 pm

Right, but once Maryland wins there will still officially be 7 spots left, not 6.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:45 pm

Didn't realize la Lafayette had two games left.... updating
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:47 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots


This assumes that BC does not win today.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:48 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:Didn't realize la Lafayette had two games left.... updating


That still doesn't change the fact that 12 spots were available going into the week, and as of right now 8 officially remain because only 4 teams have won to get to 6-6. And once Maryland wins it will be 7.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:48 pm

Salzano14 {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:http://i65.tinypic.com/1zdoq43.jpg

This is my current official count based on completed games and the BCI post.

To simplify things -- that chart goes down to 85 teams. Once 5 of them lose, the count is down to 80 and we'll be in.


I think only need 3.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:48 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots


This assumes that BC does not win today.


If BC doesn't win the number of slots available doesn't change. It just changes the number of teams able to fill those slots at 6-6.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:49 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
Salzano14 {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:http://i65.tinypic.com/1zdoq43.jpg

This is my current official count based on completed games and the BCI post.

To simplify things -- that chart goes down to 85 teams. Once 5 of them lose, the count is down to 80 and we'll be in.


I think only need 3.


No, we only need 2. Its been two since before any games this morning. You've been 1 off this whole time.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:51 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:So updating this bowl situation... => 83 teams for 80 spots (6 of which are still up for grabs)

66 Miami (6 wins)
67 NC State (6 wins)
68 TCU (6 wins)
69 Southern Miss (6 wins)
70 Maryland (6 wins)
71 Army (6 wins but needs NCAA waiver which would prob be granted)
72 992 Northwestern (5 wins)
73 990 Vanderbilt (5 wins)
74 984 North Texas (5 wins)

12pm games

Indiana (5-6) vs. Purdue
La Lafayette (4-6) vs ark st (with game next week)

330 games:

Duke (4-7) vs. Miami
Miss St (4-7) vs. Ole Miss (5-6)
SMU (5-6) vs Navy
Southern Alabama (5-5) vs Idaho (and NM State the following week)

Late games:

Texas-San Antonio (5-6) vs. Charlotte @ 7pm
Hawaii (5-7) vs. Umass @11pm


It does not include the Purdue game which is within 1 TD

Updated to include Maryland game winning.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:51 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:So updating this bowl situation... => 83 teams for 80 spots (6 of which are still up for grabs)

66 Miami (6 wins)
67 NC State (6 wins)
68 TCU (6 wins)
69 Southern Miss (6 wins)
70 Maryland (6 wins)
71 Army (6 wins but needs NCAA waiver which would prob be granted)
72 992 Northwestern (5 wins)
73 990 Vanderbilt (5 wins)
74 984 North Texas (5 wins)

12pm games

Indiana (5-6) vs. Purdue
La Lafayette (4-6) vs ark st (with game next week)

330 games:

Duke (4-7) vs. Miami
Miss St (4-7) vs. Ole Miss (5-6)
SMU (5-6) vs Navy
Southern Alabama (5-5) vs Idaho (and NM State the following week)

Late games:

Texas-San Antonio (5-6) vs. Charlotte @ 7pm
Hawaii (5-7) vs. Umass @11pm


If Maryland holds on... looks extremely likely up 2+ TDs at the end of the third
It does not include the Purdue game which is within 1 TD


Updated to include la Lafayette.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:52 pm

Arkansas State within a TD.
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby hansen on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:54 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots


You never fixed it last night.


What?
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Re: We're Going Bowling!

Postby ILikeBC on Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:55 pm

hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Still very confused. If Maryland wins and is the first game to finish, there still should be 7 spots officially up for grabs.


75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80 => 6 spots


You never fixed it last night.


What?


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