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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby westcoastbernie on Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:43 am

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MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:I'd be shocked if SDSU hired him. I can't see why anybody would hire Bates. We'll have to fire him.

You don't have to fire someone who no longer has a contact. Think Office Space.

For Bates, it's an obvious monster step back. But, location and it being a decent MAC-level program makes sense for him. For SDST, you can also see the attraction. Regardless of what we think, his resume remains impressive. Pretty easy for him to spin it as being impossible to win at because of an institutional lack of support. Also, SDST got a little taste of the political nature of conference realignment and may feel that an experienced AD would help in such a world. Finally, let's be fair... our hatred for Buttcut really centers on his utter inability to hire a competent head coach in any sport (despite having many available to him). From SDST's perspective, they could believe that the coaches hired by Bates would be great for their level (and they'd be largely right). Much like how a failing in the NFL isn't a negative for a guy looking to coach in college, same for someone who struggled at the worst athletic program trying to compete on the cheap in the Power 5.


Bates won't have to hire any coaches for the foreseeable future at SDSU. The hoops team is coached by Steve Fischer, the former HC at Michigan (the Fab 5....Chris Webber and the infamous time out) and he has put together a string of 10+ years of 19+ win seasons and multiple NCAA and NIT appearances. Really solid mid-major program. In football, the HC is Rocky Long who is in his 60's, is currently riding a 2 year unbeaten conference winning streak (the polar opposite of what Dazzler is doing) and had the Aztecs ranked in the Top 25 for a while earlier this year. Both coaches are older and may just retire in a few years but they have an active booster/alumni base and they have committed resources to basketball. Football? it is a meh program overall as it is stuck in the MWC. It plays a few P5 teams a year (Cal, UCLA, Oregon State are regulars, Stanford next year) and this year shut out UNH (yup that UNH from Durham), 31-0, on opening day. I think they are about as good talent wise as BC but their coach is better,

Given it is a state school and the facilities were all upgraded on campus recently, the need for that is not as important as at BC. The football team plays in Qualcomm Stadium (the Chargers stadium) and if the city of SD builds a new facility, SDSU will play there. The other option if the Chargers move is to have SDSU take over the Qualcomm site, expand the campus (Qualcomm is about 3 miles from campus, they would make the stadium site a grad school campus, downsize the stadium to about 40,000 seats and bring in an MLS team to co-tenant.

Not a bad landing pad for a failed AD. A salary of about $400K per year, living in So Cal and all the heavy lifting in the job was done by his predecessor, who beat him out for the AD job at Mizzou BTW.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby Tom Dooder on Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:05 pm

westcoastbernie {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:I'd be shocked if SDSU hired him. I can't see why anybody would hire Bates. We'll have to fire him.

You don't have to fire someone who no longer has a contact. Think Office Space.

For Bates, it's an obvious monster step back. But, location and it being a decent MAC-level program makes sense for him. For SDST, you can also see the attraction. Regardless of what we think, his resume remains impressive. Pretty easy for him to spin it as being impossible to win at because of an institutional lack of support. Also, SDST got a little taste of the political nature of conference realignment and may feel that an experienced AD would help in such a world. Finally, let's be fair... our hatred for Buttcut really centers on his utter inability to hire a competent head coach in any sport (despite having many available to him). From SDST's perspective, they could believe that the coaches hired by Bates would be great for their level (and they'd be largely right). Much like how a failing in the NFL isn't a negative for a guy looking to coach in college, same for someone who struggled at the worst athletic program trying to compete on the cheap in the Power 5.


Bates won't have to hire any coaches for the foreseeable future at SDSU. The hoops team is coached by Steve Fischer, the former HC at Michigan (the Fab 5....Chris Webber and the infamous time out) and he has put together a string of 10+ years of 19+ win seasons and multiple NCAA and NIT appearances. Really solid mid-major program. In football, the HC is Rocky Long who is in his 60's, is currently riding a 2 year unbeaten conference winning streak (the polar opposite of what Dazzler is doing) and had the Aztecs ranked in the Top 25 for a while earlier this year. Both coaches are older and may just retire in a few years but they have an active booster/alumni base and they have committed resources to basketball. Football? it is a meh program overall as it is stuck in the MWC. It plays a few P5 teams a year (Cal, UCLA, Oregon State are regulars, Stanford next year) and this year shut out UNH (yup that UNH from Durham), 31-0, on opening day. I think they are about as good talent wise as BC but their coach is better,

Given it is a state school and the facilities were all upgraded on campus recently, the need for that is not as important as at BC. The football team plays in Qualcomm Stadium (the Chargers stadium) and if the city of SD builds a new facility, SDSU will play there. The other option if the Chargers move is to have SDSU take over the Qualcomm site, expand the campus (Qualcomm is about 3 miles from campus, they would make the stadium site a grad school campus, downsize the stadium to about 40,000 seats and bring in an MLS team to co-tenant.

Not a bad landing pad for a failed AD. A salary of about $400K per year, living in So Cal and all the heavy lifting in the job was done by his predecessor, who beat him out for the AD job at Mizzou BTW.



Probably the reason why BC was able to schedule a home-and-home with Mizzou. It was the runner-up gift to Bates.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:07 pm

buttcut would have been eaten alive at mizzou. that ad is going to have to, you know, actually do things to prevent a race war on campus. considering that he has to print instructions on how to unzip his fly to take a whizz on the inside of his suitcoat, i don't see him succeeding in a role like that
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby DuchesneEast on Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:40 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:buttcut would have been eaten alive at mizzou. that ad is going to have to, you know, actually do things to prevent a race war on campus. considering that he has to print instructions on how to unzip his fly to take a whizz on the inside of his suitcoat, i don't see him succeeding in a role like that


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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:59 pm

recently, through one of my sources, i obtained this artists rendering of leahy telling buttcut his contract wouldn't be renewed. i think leahyhoo had a courtroom artist in the room to document the momentous occasion

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby angrychicken on Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:08 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:recently, through one of my sources, i obtained this artists rendering of leahy telling buttcut his contract wouldn't be renewed. i think leahyhoo had a courtroom artist in the room to document the momentous occasion

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now THAT'S funny, but considering the tight grip that Leahy keeps on athletic expenditures, I picture the artist's rendering to be more on this level:

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby ILikeBC on Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:29 pm

According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:37 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

the chancellor probably read these boards. we need to be smarter about this - if every google link to "brad bates" is sent here for the potential new employer to read that buttcut has is head really REALLY far up his own ass, no one will take him off our hands and we won't be able to say "PACK YER BAGS, PACK YER BAGS!!!!"
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby angrychicken on Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:42 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

the chancellor probably read these boards. we need to be smarter about this - if every google link to "brad bates" is sent here for the potential new employer to read that buttcut has is head really REALLY far up his own ass, no one will take him off our hands and we won't be able to say "PACK YER BAGS, PACK YER BAGS!!!!"

Good point. We should start calling him something else.

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:03 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

the chancellor probably read these boards. we need to be smarter about this - if every google link to "brad bates" is sent here for the potential new employer to read that buttcut has is head really REALLY far up his own ass, no one will take him off our hands and we won't be able to say "PACK YER BAGS, PACK YER BAGS!!!!"

Good point. We should start calling him something else.

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TontoKowalski on Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:12 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
angrychicken {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

the chancellor probably read these boards. we need to be smarter about this - if every google link to "brad bates" is sent here for the potential new employer to read that buttcut has is head really REALLY far up his own ass, no one will take him off our hands and we won't be able to say "PACK YER BAGS, PACK YER BAGS!!!!"

Good point. We should start calling him something else.

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby HJS on Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:12 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

Makes sense... Leahy probably came through with an extension.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:32 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

Makes sense... Leahy probably came through with an extension.

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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:08 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.


This would have been nice for Bates, though he has been an awful AD, he is not a bad guy, but really makes little difference for the future of BC athletics. If we could just find some foolish program to take the Sarge...
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby Tom Dooder on Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:12 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:According to blauds, Bates is not in the mix at San Diego State. Posted around 1:00pm Wednesday.

Makes sense... Leahy probably came through with an extension.




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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby dtwalrus on Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:35 pm

Tom Dooder {l Wrote}:
westcoastbernie {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}: Not a bad landing pad for a failed AD. A salary of about $400K per year, living in So Cal and all the heavy lifting in the job was done by his predecessor, who beat him out for the AD job at Mizzou BTW.



Probably the reason why BC was able to schedule a home-and-home with Mizzou. It was the runner-up gift to Bates.



Remember when Bates was being tossed around as a possible Michigan AD this past year. If only we could translate that...and the fact that he's a Michigan alumnus!...into a 2026-2027 home-and-home!
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby durkcal on Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:27 am

westcoastbernie {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:I'd be shocked if SDSU hired him. I can't see why anybody would hire Bates. We'll have to fire him.

You don't have to fire someone who no longer has a contact. Think Office Space.

For Bates, it's an obvious monster step back. But, location and it being a decent MAC-level program makes sense for him. For SDST, you can also see the attraction. Regardless of what we think, his resume remains impressive. Pretty easy for him to spin it as being impossible to win at because of an institutional lack of support. Also, SDST got a little taste of the political nature of conference realignment and may feel that an experienced AD would help in such a world. Finally, let's be fair... our hatred for Buttcut really centers on his utter inability to hire a competent head coach in any sport (despite having many available to him). From SDST's perspective, they could believe that the coaches hired by Bates would be great for their level (and they'd be largely right). Much like how a failing in the NFL isn't a negative for a guy looking to coach in college, same for someone who struggled at the worst athletic program trying to compete on the cheap in the Power 5.


Bates won't have to hire any coaches for the foreseeable future at SDSU. The hoops team is coached by Steve Fischer, the former HC at Michigan (the Fab 5....Chris Webber and the infamous time out) and he has put together a string of 10+ years of 19+ win seasons and multiple NCAA and NIT appearances. Really solid mid-major program. In football, the HC is Rocky Long who is in his 60's, is currently riding a 2 year unbeaten conference winning streak (the polar opposite of what Dazzler is doing) and had the Aztecs ranked in the Top 25 for a while earlier this year. Both coaches are older and may just retire in a few years but they have an active booster/alumni base and they have committed resources to basketball. Football? it is a meh program overall as it is stuck in the MWC. It plays a few P5 teams a year (Cal, UCLA, Oregon State are regulars, Stanford next year) and this year shut out UNH (yup that UNH from Durham), 31-0, on opening day. I think they are about as good talent wise as BC but their coach is better,

Given it is a state school and the facilities were all upgraded on campus recently, the need for that is not as important as at BC. The football team plays in Qualcomm Stadium (the Chargers stadium) and if the city of SD builds a new facility, SDSU will play there. The other option if the Chargers move is to have SDSU take over the Qualcomm site, expand the campus (Qualcomm is about 3 miles from campus, they would make the stadium site a grad school campus, downsize the stadium to about 40,000 seats and bring in an MLS team to co-tenant.

Not a bad landing pad for a failed AD. A salary of about $400K per year, living in So Cal and all the heavy lifting in the job was done by his predecessor, who beat him out for the AD job at Mizzou BTW.


San Diego State would beat us easily this year. They have a good football team.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby Logitano on Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:10 pm

When does Bates being gone become official? He was not even there today. :ace
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby ILikeBC on Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:35 pm

San Diego State has named some guy not named Brad Bates its new AD. What a shame.
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:54 pm

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:San Diego State has named some guy not named Brad Bates its new AD. What a shame.

is his name Butt C. Utt? they could be trying to pull the wool over our eyes by using a nickname
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Re: Bates to SDSU

Postby Bumpers on Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:55 pm

Someone, please move this thread now to the "News from Houston" board.
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