HJS {l Wrote}:In contrast, the Athletic Department is ALL IN on Daz. All the excuse-making for last year is regurgitated word-for-word. All the youth, injuries, bare cupboard nonsense is the response to every question or critique. Daz is the right guy... he understands BC, has the right assistants, knows what it takes to win, does it the right way, can recruit and is the perfect fit for the school. I don't know if Bates believes it or is too scared of Daz to do anything (I actually heard that rumor about year or two ago). It is also entirely possible that Bates HAS to believe it. Unlike JC, Daz's extension was real. As I understand it, Daz is now paid over 2 and if we were to fire him after our certain-to-be loss to Yukon, BC would be on the hook for close to $10mm. Once again, this shows how the BOT's reluctance to do its job costs the University dearly.
HJS {l Wrote}:My take aways...
Bates is feeling pressure and could be gone. (50% chance he sees Fall 2017)
Bates seems at the ready to sacrifice JC. Combine that with Jimmy Mac's ability to deliver improvement... he's a goner. (25% chance he sees Fall 2017... mostly based upon the chance that Bates is told to leave first and coaching decisions are left to the new AD)
There isn't a safer coach in America than Steve Addazio. When you factor in coaches leaving on their own accord (yes... coaches do that... just not at BC), it is entirely possible that Daz is the coach MOST likely to be coaching the same team next year. (99% chance he sees Fall 2017... 75% chance he sees Fall 2018)
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:A contract is a contract
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:JC drops another 0-18 and he is gone. I think he has potential to actually be decent, although not just jettisoning Carter last year makes me a little nervous.
If Daz goes 3-9 or 4-8 including an 0fer in the ACC he is gone. Don't care how much money BC owes him, etc.
Still think football goes 6-6/7-5 and basketball improves so I don't think we are getting rid of any of these guys.
Whatever on the coaches, the guy I want gone is that empty suit Bates.
HJS {l Wrote}:I'm not sure if this refers to Bates, JC or Daz. But, it should be noted that most every employment contract has a termination provision. You could give someone a 20-year contract that allows at-will termination with only a $500 payout. These provisions are as hotly negotiated as the annual payouts. When I say Daz's extension was "real" it is based on my cursory understanding that it was negotiated at a point when Bates was desperate to show him a committment. Not only did Daz receive a big raise, but he also received security in the form of a monster buyout. JC, on the other hand, I believe was extended at his current rate with no additional termination negotiations. If I had to guess, JC's contract probably has something where the buyout decrements over time (e.g. owe 4 years if fired in first, owe 3 years if fired in 2nd, owe 2 years if fired in 3rd, owe 1 year if fired thereafter).
claver2010 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:I'm not sure if this refers to Bates, JC or Daz. But, it should be noted that most every employment contract has a termination provision. You could give someone a 20-year contract that allows at-will termination with only a $500 payout. These provisions are as hotly negotiated as the annual payouts. When I say Daz's extension was "real" it is based on my cursory understanding that it was negotiated at a point when Bates was desperate to show him a committment. Not only did Daz receive a big raise, but he also received security in the form of a monster buyout. JC, on the other hand, I believe was extended at his current rate with no additional termination negotiations. If I had to guess, JC's contract probably has something where the buyout decrements over time (e.g. owe 4 years if fired in first, owe 3 years if fired in 2nd, owe 2 years if fired in 3rd, owe 1 year if fired thereafter).
this is my understanding as well.
bates bought high on daz
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Can't have back to back 0fers in the ACC. Don't care what the buyout amount is, he's gone
DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:Assuming we win 1 ACC game and beat Wagner, I think the Uconn game is the game that determines Bates/Addazzio's future.
1. Bates was well aware that the alumni didnt want to play them. (Its a no win situation)
2. If we lose, hell will break loose. There will be a bigger dumpster fire here then all of Storrs usually is. We should all go ape shit to '74 levels and rant on every Bates posting and make his life impossible.
BCMurt09 {l Wrote}:DuchesneEast {l Wrote}:Assuming we win 1 ACC game and beat Wagner, I think the Uconn game is the game that determines Bates/Addazzio's future.
1. Bates was well aware that the alumni didnt want to play them. (Its a no win situation)
2. If we lose, hell will break loose. There will be a bigger dumpster fire here then all of Storrs usually is. We should all go ape shit to '74 levels and rant on every Bates posting and make his life impossible.
If things go as anticipated, and between now and then the only win (outside Buff and Wagner) is Syracuse, Dazzler will be 4-6 heading into the UConn game with two left to play and two needed for bow eligibility. Could you imagine the shitstorm that would follow with a loss to UConn knocking us out of bowl contention? That might get the dominoes falling.
HJS {l Wrote}:What is with all this "just imagine" if we lose to Yukon. You don't have to dive too far into the fantastic for that as it will soon be a reality. We are not beating UConn this year. I'll put it this way... we have as much chance of beating UConn as Daz has of being fired. Better get used to both.
HJS {l Wrote}:What is with all this "just imagine" if we lose to Yukon. You don't have to dive too far into the fantastic for that as it will soon be a reality. We are not beating UConn this year. I'll put it this way... we have as much chance of beating UConn as Daz has of being fired. Better get used to both.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:What is with all this "just imagine" if we lose to Yukon. You don't have to dive too far into the fantastic for that as it will soon be a reality. We are not beating UConn this year. I'll put it this way... we have as much chance of beating UConn as Daz has of being fired. Better get used to both.
UConn was losing to Maine at halftime. It's not that BC is halfway to mediocre, it's just that UConn isn't either. This cripple fight could go any number of ways. Of course if Louisville, FSU and Clemson all drop half a hundred on BC in between now and the Yukon game, I will then agree that we're going to get curb stomped at Yukon.
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:What is with all this "just imagine" if we lose to Yukon. You don't have to dive too far into the fantastic for that as it will soon be a reality. We are not beating UConn this year. I'll put it this way... we have as much chance of beating UConn as Daz has of being fired. Better get used to both.
UConn was losing to Maine at halftime. It's not that BC is halfway to mediocre, it's just that UConn isn't either. This cripple fight could go any number of ways. Of course if Louisville, FSU and Clemson all drop half a hundred on BC in between now and the Yukon game, I will then agree that we're going to get curb stomped at Yukon.
Was there ever any doubt those 3 teams were dropping 40-50 points on BC?
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised to go 3-5 in ACC play. I wouldn't for a minute guarantee it. But it's very do-able, if only because Syracuse, NCST, and Wake are bad.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:What is with all this "just imagine" if we lose to Yukon. You don't have to dive too far into the fantastic for that as it will soon be a reality. We are not beating UConn this year. I'll put it this way... we have as much chance of beating UConn as Daz has of being fired. Better get used to both.
UConn was losing to Maine at halftime. It's not that BC is halfway to mediocre, it's just that UConn isn't either. This cripple fight could go any number of ways. Of course if Louisville, FSU and Clemson all drop half a hundred on BC in between now and the Yukon game, I will then agree that we're going to get curb stomped at Yukon.
Was there ever any doubt those 3 teams were dropping 40-50 points on BC?
Yes, I thought our defense was still very good until last Saturday.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The quitting caused a lot of that. If he can get the defense back with their heads on straight over the next few weeks, they won't give up 40+ again. If he runs around like a mindless numbnuts yelling at everyone and loses them, well then yeah, they are going to get killed.
HJS {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The quitting caused a lot of that. If he can get the defense back with their heads on straight over the next few weeks, they won't give up 40+ again. If he runs around like a mindless numbnuts yelling at everyone and loses them, well then yeah, they are going to get killed.
So... you are saying they are going to get killed.
HJS {l Wrote}:dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised to go 3-5 in ACC play. I wouldn't for a minute guarantee it. But it's very do-able, if only because Syracuse, NCST, and Wake are bad.
We are 0 for the last 10 ACC games! How in the world can someone NOT be surprised if we win a single ACC game... let alone 3?
I love when folks denegrate teams like Yukon, Cuse, Wake and RCC claiming that we all don't know how truly bad they are. If you think any of them aren't better than BC, then you truly underestimate how terrible BC currently is.
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:The quitting caused a lot of that. If he can get the defense back with their heads on straight over the next few weeks, they won't give up 40+ again. If he runs around like a mindless numbnuts yelling at everyone and loses them, well then yeah, they are going to get killed.
So... you are saying they are going to get killed.
that's the way i read it
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:I am the only one who thinks Jimmy MAC deserves more slack than Daz?
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:I am the only one who thinks Jimmy MAC deserves more slack than Daz?
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