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ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.

this reminded me. saw barry gallup on the sideline on saturday and was wondering, anyone have any idea what he does or what he has done to earn a lifetime contract at bc?

They moved Gallup off of Football Ops when Daz took over. Now his primary deal is networking with the Football Alumni for fundraising purposes.

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:

eagletx {l Wrote}:So, let's assume that Towle remains healthy, and in all likelihood, no game is a blowout allowing for Wade to get significant playing time.
I don't know or recall if Wade gets a redshirt for last year; in any event he is listed as a redshirt sophomore on this year's roster.

So next year, presumably, it becomes a QB trial between Wade and Brown. If Brown, we start from scratch again.

I'm still trying to figure out whether we will ever get a two year starting job at QB, and as a correllary to that, whether we will ever run a consistent offensive scheme for more than a year or two at a time.

Seems to me, most good coaches have a system, recruit to their system, and develop consistency over time. It's referred to as their "program".

After this year, a full four years into it, it seems that Addazio is still in the mode of throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks, offensively.

Well... duh. He hasn't recruited a QB in 4 years. So of course, he is still throwing spaghetti. Being a HC at the power-5 level (and at the BCS level before it) is a sales job. Addazio can't close, he can't sell.

gave us William Green and a few others, but it was that recruiting class from 2003 that made him the winningest football coach in BC history. At this level, you simply have to recruit. Or... you lose. Its that simple.

ib, what's up with all the ellipses? It doesn't make you a better writer.




I can't believe I have to defend Daz

Then don't. Be reasonable. Accept the fact that Daz can't sell and.... shut up about it. I am at peace with the fact that 7 wins (going 3-1 OOC) is the absolute best we can get with Addazio, why can't you be?

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:but IB's whacked out revisionist history calls for it.

Your fabled 2003 recruiting class had the ultimate example of throwing $hit against the wall in Paul Peterson. The staff was very uncertain about Porter, so they brought in the utlra rare JUCO prospect.

As for TOB the closer, we went with Matt Ryan in that class only after TOB couldn't close on Brady Quinn.

why is this a problem? This was fantastic. recruited the best QB in the nation in 2003. also recruited the best tailback in the nation in 1999. That is getting it done, selling.

I am not saying that Daz has to bring in a Brian Toal or even a William Blackmon every year, but... something. Anything. Even Jags/Spaz gave us Kuechly and Andre Williams.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:If Addazio needs to bring in a fifth year every year, who cares. Finding and developing college QBs is hard. His job is to get the best team on the field.

Okay well.... BC used to have coaches that could sell. Now they don't. And that sucks. We used to complain about how awful a game day coach was with his annual WTF loss. Every single year, we had at least one of those. But that was only because BC was so mathematically superior to the team they were losing to on the field. NOW we have to hope against hope and wait for Addazio to present us with a possible 2014-USC-esque WTF.... win! Wow, how the mighty have fallen.

I am agreeing with the creator of this message thread. The team does not have any visible future at QB outside of the next 5th year transfer, whoever he may be. And that sucks. But that is because the man can't sell. I'm sorry if you guys are in such denial that you refuse to face that reality....

angrychicken {l Wrote}:IB thinks that Addazio needs to be better at recruiting. I don't disagree.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:IB thinks that Addazio needs to be better at recruiting. I don't disagree.

ib also thinks that tobias was the pinnacle of recruiting. i don't agree

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:IB thinks that Addazio needs to be better at recruiting. I don't disagree.

ib also thinks that tobias was the pinnacle of recruiting. i don't agree

I agree...with you.

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.

this reminded me. saw barry gallup on the sideline on saturday and was wondering, anyone have any idea what he does or what he has done to earn a lifetime contract at bc?

They moved Gallup off of Football Ops when Daz took over. Now his primary deal is networking with the Football Alumni for fundraising purposes.

That's just a cover for his real job - leaking information to gumshoes.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:IB thinks that Addazio needs to be better at recruiting. I don't disagree.

ib also thinks that tobias was the pinnacle of recruiting. i don't agree

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

Agreed. He's also a much better recruiter than TOBY. he just can't coach. Needs to let others do it.

HJS {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

Agreed. He's also a much better recruiter than TOBY. he just can't coach. Needs to let others do it.

This is kinda what I never understand. If you can hire great assistants, you can be an awesome coach by riding their coattails. Daz actually could be a good long-term coach if he was smart enough to realize this. Stick to recruiting, giving speeches and dealing with the media.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

Agreed. He's also a much better recruiter than TOBY. he just can't coach. Needs to let others do it.

This is kinda what I never understand. If you can hire great assistants, you can be an awesome coach by riding their coattails. Daz actually could be a good long-term coach if he was smart enough to realize this. Stick to recruiting, giving speeches and dealing with the media.

Daz does do somethings well. "Dealing with the media" is not one of these things.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

Agreed. He's also a much better recruiter than TOBY. he just can't coach. Needs to let others do it.

This is kinda what I never understand. If you can hire great assistants, you can be an awesome coach by riding their coattails. Daz actually could be a good long-term coach if he was smart enough to realize this. Stick to recruiting, giving speeches and dealing with the media.

Daz does do somethings well. "Dealing with the media" is not one of these things.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

HJS {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

angrychicken {l Wrote}:

innocentbystander {l Wrote}:By the by tre, I agree with you that Addazio is in "just cashing a check" mode. No debate there.

I disagree...with you. I think that Addazio is giving it everything he has. Unfortunately, what you see is all he has.

Agreed. He's also a much better recruiter than TOBY. he just can't coach. Needs to let others do it.

This is kinda what I never understand. If you can hire great assistants, you can be an awesome coach by riding their coattails. Daz actually could be a good long-term coach if he was smart enough to realize this. Stick to recruiting, giving speeches and dealing with the media.

Daz does do somethings well. "Dealing with the media" is not one of these things.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
that's the challenge the thin-skinners have to face. they think they are god's gift to the world and take any criticism as a PERSONAL ATTACK and spiral down the drain of frustration until becoming completely ineffective

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

I agree with this, but I don't think Paul P is good at the Fine role. Probably better than Addazio, but still sub par.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

he has that pesky ego that keeps getting in the way, though. i don't see that going away anytime soon (read: ever)

that's the challenge the thin-skinners have to face. they think they are god's gift to the world and take any criticism as a PERSONAL ATTACK and spiral down the drain of frustration until becoming completely ineffective

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

I agree with this, but I don't think Paul P is good at the Fine role. Probably better than Addazio, but still sub par.

Fair. That said, when Daz clearly deferred to him against UMass, he usually made the right call. Should have done it more.

HJS {l Wrote}:

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:HJS hit the nail on the head. Daz should have his "philosophy" of aggressive blitzing D and dominant line/power run/play action passing on O, and then hire the people that he thinks can make the calls. Then use Pasqualoni as his Bernie Fine (without the molestation allegations) to make the tough game time strategy calls, like clock management. The rest of the time, he can pick grass, yell at refs, recruit, go to ESPN, do press conferences, give talks and turn whalepants pockets inside out, rah rah in the locker room and hand out game balls.

he has that pesky ego that keeps getting in the way, though. i don't see that going away anytime soon (read: ever)

that's the challenge the thin-skinners have to face. they think they are god's gift to the world and take any criticism as a PERSONAL ATTACK and spiral down the drain of frustration until becoming completely ineffective

I'm not sure if it is a pesky ego. I think it might be intelligence... not realizing that considered delegation is a form of management.

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:... you could make a case that Burton wanting to de-commit was because he was not technically BC's "first option".

I'm not buying this spin. Holy shit.

If you think Perry can play QB in the ACC you are out of your freaking mind.