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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:12 pm

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:32 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.

and it leahy wants... well, you know where this goes
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:36 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:44 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.


Hard pass.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:07 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.


Hard pass.

at this point it's difficult to know which mac coach is going to peter principle himself into this job after the 2017-2018 season. the only thing we do know is it won't be someone currently asst coaching in national concussion protocol league
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby ATLeagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:13 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.


Hard pass.

at this point it's difficult to know which mac coach is going to peter principle himself into this job after the 2017-2018 season. the only thing we do know is it won't be someone currently asst coaching in national concussion protocol league


MAC vs NFL doesn't matter. Neither does current head coach vs career coordinator. The only thing that matters is an Italian last name and a mustache. That is how you become BC's head football coach.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:36 pm

maybe it's like the three bears. first we had spaz (this coach is far too soft) and then slaughter (this coach is much to hard) and now, with the third choice, we'll pick the eyetie bear that's just right...

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all he needs is a soup strainer

or maybe even

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cause he's looking for a job
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:44 pm

Mangini would annoy the shit out of all the closet pundits around here because he'd go 8-4 and think he knew more than everyone else (think Chip Kelly in the pros), but he could do some ridiculously fun stuff with this defensive roster. Doubt he's be much of a recruiter though.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:57 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:... Doubt he's be much of a recruiter though.

no problem, we have fitch for that
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby angrychicken on Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:18 pm

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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby angrychicken on Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:48 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:if you have the power to change avatars similar to your power to change signatures, can you adjust funishment's avatar?

I will not be changing anything. You are a tyrant, and I will not be a part of your tyrannical schemes and shenanigans.

Oh, and BC should hired Art Briles. He is a good coach, needs a job, will probably work cheap, and he needs forgiveness.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby 2001Eagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:09 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.


Hard pass.


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My vote is for Day also.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby hansen on Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:20 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:Image

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Has he and Doug Martin gotten into a fistfight yet this year?
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby flakes on Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:32 pm

Looks like LSU's Brandon Harris might be transferring if we want another "SEC" quarterback
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:32 pm

flakes {l Wrote}:Looks like LSU's Brandon Harris might be transferring if we want another "SEC" quarterback


No
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:39 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:Looks like LSU's Brandon Harris might be transferring if we want another "SEC" quarterback


No


Double no if he was the guy that played against Wisc. They win that game with any ISL QB.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby Dick Rosenthal on Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:40 pm

I heard that as we speak Richmond Head Coach (and former BC Assistant) Danny Rocco is growing a mustache. The MAC is getting to rich for Leah's blood, time to go the FCS route.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby ATLeagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:50 pm

I still think next year's insurance policy QB will Hayden Rettig.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby MattTheEagle on Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:28 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:wait - is this the first step to a "ryan day hc/sgt slaughter oc" agenda for you?


Ha. If Day wanted Daz as his OC, I wouldn't want him as coach.


Amen. And if Bates wanted Day as his HC, I wouldn't want him as AD.


Day has my vote as the next HC here.


Hard pass.


coach hard. love hard.

My vote is for Day also.

No no no on Day. The guy has like 3 years total OC experience and wasn't very good at it. He hasn't proved anything in the NFL either. If we are going to have some shitshow pool of candidates (which we will as long as Leahy and Bates call the shots) then you keep Addazio and hope for consistent 7-8 win seasons until we finally take the hiring decision seriously.

Last time around we were looking primarily at Kromer, Lembo and Diaco. The only decent candidate in that group was Diaco and even he would have been a disaster. I don't trust the hiring process one bit, so pass.

In fact, I'll take a losing HC at a big program than winning non-power five coach. At least the guy from the big program won't be in over his head by the time he gets to BC and will probably have a chip on his shoulder. There are also some decent coordinators we should be looking at.

I would take Lane Kiffin over Day easy. And a good coaching search should at least include him.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:20 pm

Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:I heard that as we speak Richmond Head Coach (and former BC Assistant) Danny Rocco is growing a mustache. The MAC is getting to rich for Leah's blood, time to go the FCS route.


That's an upgrade over the MAC. Ask Buffalo.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby innocentbystander on Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:05 am

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
eagletx {l Wrote}:So, let's assume that Towle remains healthy, and in all likelihood, no game is a blowout allowing for Wade to get significant playing time.
I don't know or recall if Wade gets a redshirt for last year; in any event he is listed as a redshirt sophomore on this year's roster.

So next year, presumably, it becomes a QB trial between Wade and Brown. If Brown, we start from scratch again.

I'm still trying to figure out whether we will ever get a two year starting job at QB, and as a correllary to that, whether we will ever run a consistent offensive scheme for more than a year or two at a time.

Seems to me, most good coaches have a system, recruit to their system, and develop consistency over time. It's referred to as their "program".

After this year, a full four years into it, it seems that Addazio is still in the mode of throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks, offensively.


:shrug Well... duh. He hasn't recruited a QB in 4 years. So of course, he is still throwing spaghetti. Being a HC at the power-5 level (and at the BCS level before it) is a sales job. Addazio can't close, he can't sell.

:toby gave us William Green and a few others, but it was that recruiting class from 2003 that made him the winningest football coach in BC history. At this level, you simply have to recruit. Or... you lose. Its that simple.



I can't believe I have to defend Daz


Then don't. Be reasonable. Accept the fact that Daz can't sell and.... shut up about it. I am at peace with the fact that 7 wins (going 3-1 OOC) is the absolute best we can get with Addazio, why can't you be?

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:but IB's whacked out revisionist history calls for it.

Your fabled 2003 recruiting class had the ultimate example of throwing $hit against the wall in Paul Peterson. The staff was very uncertain about Porter, so they brought in the utlra rare JUCO prospect.

As for TOB the closer, we went with Matt Ryan in that class only after TOB couldn't close on Brady Quinn.


:shrug why is this a problem? This was fantastic. :toby recruited the best QB in the nation in 2003. :toby also recruited the best tailback in the nation in 1999. That is getting it done, selling.

I am not saying that Daz has to bring in a Brian Toal or even a William Blackmon every year, but... something. Anything. Even Jags/Spaz gave us Kuechly and Andre Williams.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:If Addazio needs to bring in a fifth year every year, who cares. Finding and developing college QBs is hard. His job is to get the best team on the field.


Okay well.... BC used to have coaches that could sell. Now they don't. And that sucks. We used to complain about how awful a game day coach :toby was with his annual WTF loss. Every single year, we had at least one of those. But that was only because BC was so mathematically superior to the team they were losing to on the field. NOW we have to hope against hope and wait for Addazio to present us with a possible 2014-USC-esque WTF.... win! Wow, how the mighty have fallen.

I am agreeing with the creator of this message thread. The team does not have any visible future at QB outside of the next 5th year transfer, whoever he may be. And that sucks. But that is because the man can't sell. I'm sorry if you guys are in such denial that you refuse to face that reality....
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby rktbrkr on Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:38 am

First, check SEC allsenior QBs eligible for a grad year,the past is prologue.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:40 am

IB deciding that someone was the best QB recruit in the nation because 5 years later they were the best redshirt senior QB in the draft class (after switching to a new QB coach for the last year) is priceless retardery.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:43 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:IB deciding that someone was the best QB recruit in the nation because 5 years later they were the best redshirt senior QB in the draft class (after switching to a new QB coach for the last year) is priceless retardery.

too late. you can search my post history for calling him the worst message board poster of all time if you'd like.

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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby HJS on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:48 am

MattTheEagle {l Wrote}:No no no on Day. The guy has like 3 years total OC experience and wasn't very good at it. He hasn't proved anything in the NFL either. If we are going to have some shitshow pool of candidates (which we will as long as Leahy and Bates call the shots) then you keep Addazio and hope for consistent 7-8 win seasons until we finally take the hiring decision seriously.

Last time around we were looking primarily at Kromer, Lembo and Diaco. The only decent candidate in that group was Diaco and even he would have been a disaster. I don't trust the hiring process one bit, so pass.

In fact, I'll take a losing HC at a big program than winning non-power five coach. At least the guy from the big program won't be in over his head by the time he gets to BC and will probably have a chip on his shoulder. There are also some decent coordinators we should be looking at.

I would take Lane Kiffin over Day easy. And a good coaching search should at least include him.

This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I still think next year's insurance policy QB will Hayden Rettig.

I wish we had landed Rettig out of high school. But, saying he has been a bust is an insult to busts like Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf and Akili Smith. The guy is 3rd or 4th string on a TERRIBLE Rutgers team. Tyler Murphy and Towles were at least previous starters in the SEC with a modicum of success.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby twballgame9 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:49 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:IB deciding that someone was the best QB recruit in the nation because 5 years later they were the best redshirt senior QB in the draft class (after switching to a new QB coach for the last year) is priceless retardery.

too late. you can search my post history for calling him the worst message board poster of all time if you'd like.

he's even worse than the being that would be formed if max quad and submarine hale had a child


I like how he says Ryan was the best QB recruit in the country based on this standard, but then says that he or a Kuechly would be okay and that it is not necessary to get a Toal or a Blackmon.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby claver2010 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:54 am

HJS {l Wrote}:This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.


this reminded me. saw barry gallup on the sideline on saturday and was wondering, anyone have any idea what he does or what he has done to earn a lifetime contract at bc?
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby angrychicken on Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:32 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:IB deciding that someone was the best QB recruit in the nation because 5 years later they were the best redshirt senior QB in the draft class (after switching to a new QB coach for the last year) is priceless retardery.

too late. you can search my post history for calling him the worst message board poster of all time if you'd like.

he's even worse than the being that would be formed if max quad and submarine hale had a child


I like how he says Ryan was the best QB recruit in the country based on this standard, but then says that he or a Kuechly would be okay and that it is not necessary to get a Toal or a Blackmon.

None of what he says is...shocking. He's a Toastmaster. Facts don't matter. It's all about...presentation.

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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby ATLeagle on Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:34 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.


this reminded me. saw barry gallup on the sideline on saturday and was wondering, anyone have any idea what he does or what he has done to earn a lifetime contract at bc?


They moved Gallup off of Football Ops when Daz took over. Now his primary deal is networking with the Football Alumni for fundraising purposes.
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Re: Quarterback/offensive (sic) future plan

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:48 am

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:This. Day coached under TOB, Jags, Spaz and Daz... all of them were basically fired. Why the eff would you take the one guy whose tenure here overlapped the program's deterioration. If he is a real good guy who loves BC... great... hire him to replace Barry Gallup.


this reminded me. saw barry gallup on the sideline on saturday and was wondering, anyone have any idea what he does or what he has done to earn a lifetime contract at bc?


They moved Gallup off of Football Ops when Daz took over. Now his primary deal is networking with the Football Alumni for fundraising purposes.

does he hand out polo hats as a method of fundraising?
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