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Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:31 pm
by eepstein0
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
MilitantEagle {l Wrote}:
DrJackRyan {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:men's tennis hasn't won an acc game in at least the last 4 years, an impressive 0-47 (acc's standings page doesn't go any further back than that)


I've seen BC play tennis before as I also played in college.

That sport should probably be the first one to cut. BC shouldn't be sponsoring sports that they're 0-47 in.


$180K is not going to make any kind of significant difference to the men's revenue sports.

That's what we spend on men's tennis.

http://college-sports.pointafter.com/l/6197/Boston-College-Tennis


To me, it's not about the money, but mental energy. We have limited resources in terms of people in and associated with the athletic department and we can't afford to devote any time and decision-making energy on these pointless sports.

Cut as many as possible outside of the major ones and Title IX requirements.


For one thing, you don't think having ~180k saved (if that # is true) from one sport to roll into something for football would help. That's the salary for multiple full time recruiting staff (or facility upgrades). If you save 180k per year from one sport and can redo the weight room, that's a plus. If you can redo locker rooms for BB or IH, that's a plus. It's also not about just cutting 1 sport, BC has to cut quite a few and that would have a material effect.

To the above point, wasn't it Hoff who said what a joke the athletics department was from a staff size perspective ? Again, it comes down to commitment. If BC is so hell bent on offerin so many sports because it fits with "Jesuit ideal" or whatever other excuse you want to use, that's fine, but commit. That means facilities (on campus or off campus arrangement), coaching staff, recruiting budget to get kids who can compete, etc. Its quite evident that stretching the athletic department so thin and trying to make it work on the cheap hasn't worked for a number of sports.


There's not enough members of the Athletic Department to support all these sports.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 6:37 pm
by BostonCollege1
DrJackRyan {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:men's tennis hasn't won an acc game in at least the last 4 years, an impressive 0-47 (acc's standings page doesn't go any further back than that)


I've seen BC play tennis before as I also played in college.

That sport should probably be the first one to cut. BC shouldn't be sponsoring sports that they're 0-47 in.


$180K is not going to make any kind of significant difference to the men's revenue sports.

That's what we spend on men's tennis.

http://college-sports.pointafter.com/l/6197/Boston-College-Tennis


This site also states that the revenue is equal to the expenses, for both men's and women's tennis. You actually believe these numbers, then?

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 6:46 pm
by DomingoOrtiz
BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:
DrJackRyan {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:men's tennis hasn't won an acc game in at least the last 4 years, an impressive 0-47 (acc's standings page doesn't go any further back than that)


I've seen BC play tennis before as I also played in college.

That sport should probably be the first one to cut. BC shouldn't be sponsoring sports that they're 0-47 in.


$180K is not going to make any kind of significant difference to the men's revenue sports.

That's what we spend on men's tennis.

http://college-sports.pointafter.com/l/6197/Boston-College-Tennis


This site also states that the revenue is equal to the expenses, for both men's and women's tennis. You actually believe these numbers, then?


No. Those numbers are silly. Are there really more on the men's team?

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:33 pm
by Eaglekeeper
180,000 is 1.8 million in ten years, that is enough to endow two scholarships and that is just tennis being cut. I still think BC should just develop the Hammond Pond Parkway site into a regional sports center with 2 hockey rinks, indoor playing fields, basketball courts, tennis center, aquatic center, etc. All varsity teams could make use of these facilities and the rest of the available hours can be rented to the public to pay for the construction and operating cost. Make this site a destination site for the top high school talent in all of our minor sports.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:36 pm
by twballgame9
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:180,000 is 1.8 million in ten years, that is enough to endow two scholarships and that is just tennis being cut. I still think BC should just develop the Hammond Pond Parkway site into a regional sports center with 2 hockey rinks, indoor playing fields, basketball courts, tennis center, aquatic center, etc. All varsity teams could make use of these facilities and the rest of the available hours can be rented to the public to pay for the construction and operating cost. Make this site a destination site for the top high school talent in all of our minor sports.


Save your words. No one here is dumb enough to listen to your shit talk.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 12:48 am
by ILikeBC
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:180,000 is 1.8 million in ten years, that is enough to endow two scholarships and that is just tennis being cut. I still think BC should just develop the Hammond Pond Parkway site into a regional sports center with 2 hockey rinks, indoor playing fields, basketball courts, tennis center, aquatic center, etc. All varsity teams could make use of these facilities and the rest of the available hours can be rented to the public to pay for the construction and operating cost. Make this site a destination site for the top high school talent in all of our minor sports.


Did you ever even advance to middle management?

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 9:27 am
by eepstein0
ILikeBC {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:180,000 is 1.8 million in ten years, that is enough to endow two scholarships and that is just tennis being cut. I still think BC should just develop the Hammond Pond Parkway site into a regional sports center with 2 hockey rinks, indoor playing fields, basketball courts, tennis center, aquatic center, etc. All varsity teams could make use of these facilities and the rest of the available hours can be rented to the public to pay for the construction and operating cost. Make this site a destination site for the top high school talent in all of our minor sports.


Did you ever even advance to middle management?


The above isn't an awful idea if you ignore who proposed it.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:09 am
by claver2010
BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:
DrJackRyan {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:men's tennis hasn't won an acc game in at least the last 4 years, an impressive 0-47 (acc's standings page doesn't go any further back than that)


I've seen BC play tennis before as I also played in college.

That sport should probably be the first one to cut. BC shouldn't be sponsoring sports that they're 0-47 in.


$180K is not going to make any kind of significant difference to the men's revenue sports.

That's what we spend on men's tennis.

http://college-sports.pointafter.com/l/6197/Boston-College-Tennis


This site also states that the revenue is equal to the expenses, for both men's and women's tennis. You actually believe these numbers, then?



i think we've established that site is complete garbage

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:18 pm
by Eaglekeeper
I understand it's difficult for the lawyers and those that hold law degrees but don't practice or just do house closings on this board to understand how to put together a real estate development. Sport specific centers have been built in eastern mass and they are huge financial successes. BC's location tops them all and these facilities are in high demand.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:43 pm
by Corporal Funishment
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:I understand it's difficult for the lawyers and those that hold law degrees but don't practice or just do house closings on this board to understand how to put together a real estate development. Sport specific centers have been built in eastern mass and they are huge financial successes. BC's location tops them all and these facilities are in high demand.


And I understand it's difficult to understand for a guy who got into pouring cement 140 years ago because he was into huffing the fumes, but when you spend months advocating for filling in the corners you lose all credibility on anything having to do with sports or real estate or message boardery.

And I'm not even a lawyer!

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:02 pm
by Eaglekeeper
Are you even a college grad?

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:46 pm
by BCSUPERFAN22
Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:I understand it's difficult for the lawyers and those that hold law degrees but don't practice or just do house closings on this board to understand how to put together a real estate development. Sport specific centers have been built in eastern mass and they are huge financial successes. BC's location tops them all and these facilities are in high demand.


And I understand it's difficult to understand for a guy who got into pouring cement 140 years ago because he was into huffing the fumes, but when you spend months advocating for filling in the corners you lose all credibility on anything having to do with sports or real estate or message boardery.

And I'm not even a lawyer!


It took 15+ years to get a turf field with a roof on it (still haven't broke ground), but yea corners, knock yourself out with your regional sports complex

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:39 am
by Corporal Funishment
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Are you even a college grad?


You might be surprised how many of us who came of age later than the nineteenth century have gotten degrees. Heck, even my butler's driver has one.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:38 pm
by Eaglekeeper
Degrees are just not as meaningful as they once were.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:51 am
by Corporal Funishment
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Degrees are just not as meaningful as they once were.


The value of a degree is fleeting, but cement lasts forever.

Is that right, old man?

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:01 pm
by Manny
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:I understand it's difficult for the lawyers and those that hold law degrees but don't practice or just do house closings on this board to understand how to put together a real estate development. Sport specific centers have been built in eastern mass and they are huge financial successes. BC's location tops them all and these facilities are in high demand.

I've worked on different aspects of the development of a 1,000+ acre sports complex for much of the last 7 years. So, speaking from a position of experience and authority you've called for, you're a dipshit and should be quiet.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:31 pm
by Eaglekeeper
Send us a link of your work and I will point out your mistakes.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:23 am
by Manny
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Send us a link of your work and I will point out your mistakes.

Why yes, all the documents we've drafted and negotiated ARE available to the public online. They're certainly not privileged, or littered with confidentiality provisions. Mind if I start sending you all my work? An extra pair of eyes never hurts!

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:50 pm
by Eaglekeeper
Let's start with your location.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:52 pm
by Eaglekeeper
BTW 7 years working on the same project is not a good sign of people knowing what they are doing. :titanic

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:54 pm
by twballgame9
I'd hazard a guess Eaglekeeper is a broker. Lot of talk, little knowledge.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:23 am
by angrychicken
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'd hazard a guess Eaglekeeper is a broker. Lot of talk, little knowledge.

This is funny.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:03 am
by Manny
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BTW 7 years working on the same project is not a good sign of people knowing what they are doing. :titanic

I can't believe I'm saying this, because there's definitely never been any indication before, but I think you might be a delusional idiot.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:11 am
by DavidGordonsFoot
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BTW 7 years working on the same project is not a good sign of people knowing what they are doing. :titanic

You're trapped in the past. Monoliths are dead.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:13 pm
by eepstein0
This has the potential to be amazing

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:39 pm
by TobaccoRoadEagle
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:This has the potential to be amazing

not really. this place sucks hairier balls than foot does when he's addressing his wife's undercarriage

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:10 pm
by Eaglekeeper
As I figured, you are typical lawyer, paralysis by over analysis. "I'm working on various documents for seven years". Stick to house closings.

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 6:03 pm
by ILikeBC
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:As I figured, you are typical lawyer, paralysis by over analysis. "I'm working on various documents for seven years". Stick to house closings.



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Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:41 am
by HJS
Manny {l Wrote}:Challenge: Name anyone currently or formerly a part of Belichick's staff, other than Charlie Weis, that wouldn't get at least a couple people here excited.

http://ux.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca ... 101708588/

Re: 2017 Athletic Director Candidates Thread

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:45 pm
by HJS
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Yes, the seats behind the visitors bench up 8 rows now go to the visiting teams fans. When most season ticket holders give up half their seats and those seats go unsold, DBS gutted the fan base. The losing has of course added to it, but BC had a strong following of long time season ticket holders who had all of those seats. How many people are going to donate $1,000 per seat plus the ticket cost for season tickets unless BC gets to Duke/UNC level? Not many if any is the answer.

Looks like the Republicans' Tax Bill (which is supposed to help the rich, but somehow still winds up crushing me and anyone from a high tax state... where most of the wealthy live) will be putting an end to the whole DBS scam (by taking away the deductibility of "donations" that are linked to seats).