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hansen {l Wrote}:Fuck Brad Bates

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Would you rather have a retread like Golden, Schiano, or Marrone, or first time head coach? Since we just hired a MAC coach, I don't see us going down the path of a mid major guy when we replace Daz.

HJS {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:Would you rather have a retread like Golden, Schiano, or Marrone, or first time head coach? Since we just hired a MAC coach, I don't see us going down the path of a mid major guy when we replace Daz.

I'd take a retread in a heartbeat. Both Marrone and Schiano left for better gigs in the NFL. I couldn't care less if they flamed out in that atmosphere. They have both won at programs that are as bad as BC and would come with a roadmap as to how right the ship. If we are going the first-time-head-coach (again), the only universe of coaches I'd explore are current or former NFL coordinators.

Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:Is Dan henning still alive?

ILikeBC {l Wrote}:Brad Bates was hired October 9, 2012.


Does his contract end tomorrow? Please say yes.

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:If they make a change, whoever they hire has to figure out a way to sell tickets. You have to figure that either through cuts or additional revenue or a combination of both the annual deficit will be his charge to eliminate. The non ACC revenues are trending down. With ND flailing this year they might not be the draw to get people to buy season tickets next year.

EagleDave {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:If they make a change, whoever they hire has to figure out a way to sell tickets. You have to figure that either through cuts or additional revenue or a combination of both the annual deficit will be his charge to eliminate. The non ACC revenues are trending down. With ND flailing this year they might not be the draw to get people to buy season tickets next year.

Wild Idea: Invest in the football program.

Good football = more tickets sold.

This isn't complicated. There's no magical administrative/marketing formula that's going to convince people to come out and watch this colostomy bag of a program.

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:So, who is that coach that will immediately sell tickets that actually wants to come to BC and that BC/Leahy will actually hire? I agree that BC needs a really good coach to compete in the ACC, not just a good coach. Aside from the IPF with the new weight room and outdoor practice fields, what practice facilities or football facilities does BC not have? I think the IPF has become a big issue in recruiting WB's and WR's.

EagleDave {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:So, who is that coach that will immediately sell tickets that actually wants to come to BC and that BC/Leahy will actually hire? I agree that BC needs a really good coach to compete in the ACC, not just a good coach. Aside from the IPF with the new weight room and outdoor practice fields, what practice facilities or football facilities does BC not have? I think the IPF has become a big issue in recruiting WB's and WR's.

True Story: BC can get a name coach that would provide instant credibility if they were willing to pony up the cash (north of $3 million plus competitive salary for a staff, something that doesn't get talked about enough) and demonstrate they're committed to competing at the top level through administrative support and shovel ready facilities improvements to bring this program into the 21st century.

Again, this isn't rocket science...you're getting what you pay for. Do it on the cheap the way BC has for 2 decades and these are the results in this new age of college football. Provide the cash and the infrastructure and you can get the right coach to build a successful program.

HJS {l Wrote}:

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:Aren't we paying Daz significantly more than previous coaches. And considering the hits, I don't think we're skimping on assistants either.

Yes on both accounts. After Year 2, Bates bumped Dazoo to the then-average ACC salary. This was because (a) he had 2 legitimately good seasons with Spaz talent, (b) there was an imagined fear that Michigan would poach and (c) Bates maybe physically scared of Sgt Slaughter.

I've said this before, but our assistants are excellent. The problem as I see it is Daziani infusing himself into their work. He'd be much better off pulling a TOB/Jags and letting people who know how to coach do their job. You can tell from his pressers that he meddles in everything involving the program. And, since he is actually an idiot, that ain't a good thing.

EagleDave {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:So, who is that coach that will immediately sell tickets that actually wants to come to BC and that BC/Leahy will actually hire? I agree that BC needs a really good coach to compete in the ACC, not just a good coach. Aside from the IPF with the new weight room and outdoor practice fields, what practice facilities or football facilities does BC not have? I think the IPF has become a big issue in recruiting WB's and WR's.

True Story: BC can get a name coach that would provide instant credibility if they were willing to pony up the cash (north of $3 million plus competitive salary for a staff, something that doesn't get talked about enough) and demonstrate they're committed to competing at the top level through administrative support and shovel ready facilities improvements to bring this program into the 21st century.

Again, this isn't rocket science...you're getting what you pay for. Do it on the cheap the way BC has for 2 decades and these are the results in this new age of college football. Provide the cash and the infrastructure and you can get the right coach to build a successful program.

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Aside from the IPF with the new weight room and outdoor practice fields, what practice facilities or football facilities does BC not have?

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Aside from the IPF with the new weight room and outdoor practice fields, what practice facilities or football facilities does BC not have?

I don't understand this statement. You're basically naming everything they don't have (that's nationally competitive) and then questioning what they do or do not have ? As If to say those amenities are all their missing and their not that far away ? All of those things are missing/subpar and all of those things are what will continue to hurt recruiting in the ST and LT and stop BC from getting a competitive coach. Who's to say that if BC finally decides to pay over average price for a coach, that anyone will want to come here with the infrastructure in place.

These are the problems you're going to run into with 20-30 years of complete mismanagement of the facilities, a need to do everything at once and the associated cost.

As for the AD thing, I agree with ATL, I think it's as simple as hiring the guy from VCU if only from a positive fundraising standpoint since he's an alum. If he can increase fundraising and open up the coffers to competitively pay, it lessens his "lack of selecting a FB coach experience" issue that many will point to.

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:My question is once the IPF is built, what is really left to build facilities wise for attracting recruits? When I talk about the stadium renovations it's to attract more fans and generate more revenue. I think it will also help in attracting recruits.

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:My question is once the IPF is built, what is really left to build facilities wise for attracting recruits? When I talk about the stadium renovations it's to attract more fans and generate more revenue. I think it will also help in attracting recruits.

you've said before that if we don't build corners, we'll lose recruits. other than that, you are spot on

claver2010 {l Wrote}:dbs wasn't a problem when the team was good

the parking situation is a complete disaster and bates hasn't done a thing about it. it's completely mispriced and the 3 hours of tailgating is such . if bc can't convince the brighton idiots that forcing people to line up like cattle only makes traffic worse, they're bigger morons than i thought

also, bring bathrooms to the upper deck so the EO coaching staff can gloryhole closer than the 5th floor of oneill

claver2010 {l Wrote}:the 3 hours of tailgating is such