2017-18 Coaching Candidates Thread

[Eaglekeeper]

And that is exactly what Don Brown brings, Intensity!

Western Kentucky????? An unproven Pat's assistant that has not coached in college in how many years, if ever?

Only morons would compare DB with Spaz. He needed a double espresso to wake up for noon games!

TC, BOB or Chip Kelly = home runs, but stop dreaming they are not coming with Leahy still here. Get realistic and think Don Brown. Forget MAC coaches and southern assistants and get a guy who is currently coaching at the P5 level with great success. Dino at SU has never heard of the defensive side of the game. I still have to see a better option than DB.

[ATLeagle]

I hate Spaz for many reasons but the thing that gets me on a week-to-week basis is this: no one can argue that teams like Syracuse and Iowa State have recruited much better players than us, yet those teams are scoring 30+ points on Baylor and ND. Of course those teams don't have great defenses, but can you picture this team and staff putting up 30+ on either of them? We need a MASSIVE overhaul in offensive philosophy so I will take any coach that doesn't use 3 TEs on 80 percent of plays. I wonder if WKUs Jeff Brohm would ever come to BC or if he's waiting for a bigger job.

Our issues on Offense are not about talent. It is about coaching. Syracuse has the opposite problem from us. They can score, but their players are clueless on D.

[Eaglekeeper]

There is most definitely talent problems on BC's offense and SU's defense. Start with the Oline, how many will make the NFL? The WR's might develop with time, but they are not 4 star WR's. SU's has a DB that is sbout 5'6", they are horrible against the run and the pass.

This is not all coaching, the lack of talent magnifies the coaching mistakes. Just watch the other coaches and with the exception of Nick Saban, they all make dumb calls, but their talent turns the next play into a TD. There is a reason every northeast team sucks.

[hansen]

There is a lot of fucking stupidity in this thread. And coming from me that should really tell you something.

[HJS]

There is a lot of fucking stupidity in this thread. And coming from me that should really tell you something.

I think the stupidity drops tenfold if you block Corners' posts.

[2001Eagle]

I think PJ Fleck would do great here.

[tallsy]

Washington OC Jonathan Smith?

I assume Lincoln Riley will get a better job than BC.

[ATLeagle]

Washington OC Jonathan Smith?

I assume Lincoln Riley will get a better job than BC.

No on Smith. Peterson's assistants have been crap once they leave Peterson.

I like RIley, but wouldn't want to take a risk on him. He's never recruited, played or coached at any place like BC. There are other coordinators out there who have more relevant experience, where coming to BC wouldn't be such a huge culture shock for them.

[hansen]

[HJS]

Barring a stars aligning event that lands BOB or Chip (ain't gonna happen), you have to make a decision on which avenue you are going to take in 2018. Do you (a) "stay within the family" with an assistant from the failed staffs of Spaz or Daz, (b) do you hire a retread or (c) do you hire a young up-and-comer trying to grab a few good years before they move on to bigger and better things.

For me, (a) is a nonstarter. I don't want anything to do with the taint of an assistant of one of these buffoons. A perceived up-and-comer carries significant risk. Those guys fail miserably more often than they succeed. If you are certain that you have the next Tom Herman, you absolutely pull the trigger. But, I have no faith that a BC administration who just hired Spaz and Daz (and Don and JC) is capable of magically tapping the next rising star.

One thing that is important about the next hire is that it should be clear that this isn't what is viewed as a final destination. Assistants and head coaches do best when they are striving for something. TOB's and Jag's first staffs were hungry and thought they were hitching a ride to an upwardly mobile coach. Out next coach should be viewed similarly.

[ILikeBC]

I'll take a MAC hire if it's Fleck. Other than that I want Venebles or Sanford

[Cadillac90]

I'll take a MAC hire if it's Fleck. Other than that I want Venebles or Sanford

Get in line, he'll most likely go to a much bigger program. He's got Waistertern Michigan ranked and flying high.

I know everyone has always been so gung ho on Al Golden. Is that still the case? He flopped at the U but was that because he really wasn't a fit? I've never understood the love affair with him but the more I think about it, he may actually be the right guy.

[eagletx]

First let's off BB.....obviously.

My dream is still to get TC here as AD; he knows BC and what it would take from a coaching perspective to win. I would put faith in his coaching choice. He also has the cache to strong arm big donors to do what needs to be done to the programs infrastructure.

It's only a dream. But still....

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

al golden has no interest in boston college

[ATLeagle]

al golden has no interest in boston college

He has talked to BC every time the job has opened in the last ten years. How do you know he is not interested now?

[DavidGordonsFoot]

I know I've been saying there's no way BC fires Daz this year but if he keeps losing to ACC teams by 40+ points I think the BoT will step in.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

al golden has no interest in boston college

He has talked to BC every time the job has opened in the last ten years. How do you know he is not interested now?

I asked him

[HJS]

al golden has no interest in boston college

He has talked to BC every time the job has opened in the last ten years. How do you know he is not interested now?

I asked him

Perhaps, saying a terse "no" was the quickest way to end the conversation.

[HJS]

I like Golden because he is a good recruiter and is on the younger side (as we seem to exclusively go for the over-50 crowd). I do not thing he is perfect. Far from it (see his 3-4 D). But, I like the idea of a decent retread. I think he's good enough to bring us stability and consistent 8 win seasons. I also think Golden was a TERRIBLE fit in Miami (but he did assemble talent for a top 10 team).

If we aren't going retread, I want an up-and-coming NFL assistant who wants to springboard to an NFL head coaching gig.

[dtwalrus]

Are people done considering Coughlin. I feel like he was a hot pick around here when he left the Giants.

I'd imagine he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg (in fact, he might be able to claim the job as a charity tax write-off). He could attract some really good assistants, who admittedly the university would have to shell out some serious money for. And he'd be able to recruit.

I feel like he's the only real game-changer out there who could instantly redefine the program. Or at least he's the only one with even a modicum of awareness of the existence of BC football at all.

Did I miss the day we all wrote off this possibility?

[claver2010]

I know I've been saying there's no way BC fires Daz this year but if he keeps losing to ACC teams by 40+ points I think the BoT will step in.

this.

i've been in the 'he's not getting fired this year'. combination of daz getting support from those beyond big nose, $$ owed, the fact that this dept just gave a guy who went 0-18 an extension, etc.

i think he's venturing on dangerously thin ice.

[eagle33]

I'll take a MAC hire if it's Fleck. Other than that I want Venebles or Sanford

Even if Fleck showed interest, Bates would fuck it up and hire Bela Fleck by mistake.

[DuchesneEast]

I know I've been saying there's no way BC fires Daz this year but if he keeps losing to ACC teams by 40+ points I think the BoT will step in.

this.

i've been in the 'he's not getting fired this year'. combination of daz getting support from those beyond big nose, $$ owed, the fact that this dept just gave a guy who went 0-18 an extension, etc.

i think he's venturing on dangerously thin ice.

I am off the Daz train because of the failures at OL and recruiting, his so called specialties. That said I would not replace him without a home run hire. I would even reach out and gauge interest before giving him the ax. If you are just going to promote PP, dont bother. If he loses every ACC game and it leads to a real coach, so be it. If he doesnt win the UConn game though, he should be burned (not in effigy) in the quad.

[HJS]

I know I've been saying there's no way BC fires Daz this year but if he keeps losing to ACC teams by 40+ points I think the BoT will step in.

this.

i've been in the 'he's not getting fired this year'. combination of daz getting support from those beyond big nose, $$ owed, the fact that this dept just gave a guy who went 0-18 an extension, etc.

i think he's venturing on dangerously thin ice.

When has the BOT ever shown that they gave a flying fuck about athletics? The ran Greg Barber out of the school for the mere suggestion that the Board get more involved.

Here's the thing... so long as they aren't involved, they can't be blamed. Pretty simple.

[Cadillac90]

Are people done considering Coughlin. I feel like he was a hot pick around here when he left the Giants.

I'd imagine he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg (in fact, he might be able to claim the job as a charity tax write-off). He could attract some really good assistants, who admittedly the university would have to shell out some serious money for. And he'd be able to recruit.

I feel like he's the only real game-changer out there who could instantly redefine the program. Or at least he's the only one with even a modicum of awareness of the existence of BC football at all.

Did I miss the day we all wrote off this possibility?

Seriously? I thought people were calling for TC in jest. He's 70 years old. Leave him be. The Flutie talk has more of a chance.

[HJS]

I am off the Daz train because of the failures at OL and recruiting, his so called specialties. That said I would not replace him without a home run hire. I would even reach out and gauge interest before giving him the ax. If you are just going to promote PP, dont bother. If he loses every ACC game and it leads to a real coach, so be it. If he doesnt win the UConn game though, he should be burned (not in effigy) in the quad.

It's this for me (minus the Yukon corallary). I don't think he is the answer... never have. I just have no interest in hiring yet another compromised guy who "gets BC" because he worked for someone we fired. Just doesn't make sense wash-rinse-repeat ever 4-5 years.

If you find someone who is a homerun, make the change. But, the last hires made by the university are Spaz, Don, Daz and Jimmy Mac... why in the fuck do folks think we have any shot of breaking that streak this year or next?

[Cadillac90]

I'm on the record for always hiring the biggest and best name available, probably Les Miles at this point. I'd live with Al Golden or even Jags. If much prefer the NFL assistant as opposed to a college coordinator or MAC head coach. I have no faith in BC getting anything correct.

[tallsy]

Fleck's personal issues may cause problems and he might get a bigger gig.

The cultural fit issue is important but really limits the candidates (it essentially kills off the Sumlin tree), which brings us back to NFL, Big10 coordinators and the MAC. I just don't think BC can take the risk on a NFL lifer with the possible exception of PCJ. That's why I'm clinging to Taggart's two years at Stanford.

Top Candidates as I see it.

1. Strong
2. PCJ
3. Fleck
4. Golden
5. Taggart
6. Drevno

[eagletx]

Dan Mullin may be out of a job soon; maybe he'd like to return to his NE roots.

[ATLeagle]

Dan Mullin may be out of a job soon; maybe he'd like to return to his NE roots.

The college retread list is going to be really long when we have an opening. I think that is the best path for BC and something we haven't done really ever.