BC Football preseason 2016

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I hope he addresses the time change and the risk of eating bad food.

and the lower drinking age

[claver2010]

On QB: "It's more about the it than not at that position. If you are wondering if a guy has it, then I guess he doesn't have it. That's what that position is all about."

Same can be said about head coaches.

[twballgame9]

Not a lot of excuse making and everyone is evidently healthy.

[Carlos Danger]

When do we usually get the depth chart?

tomorrow and daz will probably have his presser tomorrow as well

the trip to ireland might throw everything off but given they're flying tuesday it'll probably happen tomorrow

and it will suck

I'm setting the over/under for stupid Irish jokes made during the press conference at 1.5.

Hammering the over like Anthony Wiener hammers his...

Heh, that's a good one. Can I send you a picture?

[Salzano14]

Speaking of over/under, under 44 feels like easy money

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Not a lot of excuse making and everyone is evidently healthy.

Did anyone bother to ask which QB will start?

[twballgame9]

Not a lot of excuse making and everyone is evidently healthy.

Did anyone bother to ask which QB will start?

He's not going to answer that, but you couldn't hear the Qs. He did talk about the QBs

[ILikeBC]

I hope he addresses the time change and the risk of eating bad food.

and the lower drinking age

[twballgame9]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

[HJS]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

Don't forget "Official Home of Rape and Incest Jokes".

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

Don't forget "Official Home of Rape and Incest Jokes".

and dick pics

[dtwalrus]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

In fairness, it's ATL's "Best Case Scenario" prediction. In a best case scenario: 1) the defense is as good as, if not better than last years, 2) the OL is much better, 3) Towles turns SEC experience loose on the ACC, 4) Hilliman is back to Hilliman, 5) we stay healthy at key positions.

If that's what we're assuming, the 4 OOC's are guaranteed, Wake and Syracuse are guaranteed, and NCST, GT and VT are all beatable. Then you just need to pull off on upset out of Clemson, Louisville and FSU for 10-2. It's actually not that unbelievable.

In fact, I think 10-2 is more likely than 3-9...

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

we will lose at least 1 if not 2 of your "guaranteed" games

[DavidGordonsFoot]

ATL went full walrus in that post.

[Salzano14]

Do you guys not follow ATL's worst/best/most likely predictions each year? He doesn't think we're going 10-2...

[twballgame9]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

In fairness, it's ATL's "Best Case Scenario" prediction. In a best case scenario: 1) the defense is as good as, if not better than last years, 2) the OL is much better, 3) Towles turns SEC experience loose on the ACC, 4) Hilliman is back to Hilliman, 5) we stay healthy at key positions.

If that's what we're assuming, the 4 OOC's are guaranteed, Wake and Syracuse are guaranteed, and NCST, GT and VT are all beatable. Then you just need to pull off on upset out of Clemson, Louisville and FSU for 10-2. It's actually not that unbelievable.

In fact, I think 10-2 is more likely than 3-9...

I was talking about the comments, but good words.

[innocentbystander]

Phenomenal "Flutie got screwed, he's a solid D-1 QB" discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters.

Phenomenal 10-2 season discussion going on over at the Island of Misfit Posters now. Nothing like what we get here at this wretched hive of scum and villainy, so it is refreshing.

In fairness, it's ATL's "Best Case Scenario" prediction. In a best case scenario: 1) the defense is as good as, if not better than last years, 2) the OL is much better, 3) Towles turns SEC experience loose on the ACC, 4) Hilliman is back to Hilliman, 5) we stay healthy at key positions.

If that's what we're assuming, the 4 OOC's are guaranteed, Wake and Syracuse are guaranteed, and NCST, GT and VT are all beatable. Then you just need to pull off on upset out of Clemson, Louisville and FSU for 10-2. It's actually not that unbelievable.

In fact, I think 10-2 is more likely than 3-9...

I disagree.

There is (at most) about a 1% chance team goes 3-9. There is a 0% chance they go 10-2. 0%

[commavegarage]

people who think 10-2 are in the realm of possibilities forget how there are 3ish games a year where in game coaching makes a difference and we will go 0-3 in those games

[25GeraldRd]

people who think 10-2 are in the realm of possibilities forget how there are 3ish games a year where in game coaching makes a difference and we will go 0-3 in those games

i think that's the key point. if everything breaks right on the player development side (D stays in the neighborhood of where it was last year, Hilliman picks up where he left off, the OL's ability to protect the QB and open holes goes from "deficient" to "slightly below average", there is someone on the roster who can make field goals and said player is given FG duty) then there are 10 winnable games on the schedule. that said, Addazio will blow at least 2 of them.

[twballgame9]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

ummm, ryan day isn't walking back through that door

[EagleDave]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

Uhh...it was constantly called into question, but it was brushed off because the BC fanbase was just happy to have a team that wasn't a total disgrace.

That team in 2014 was actually really good and would have gone 9-3 with a better coach. Daz and the coaching staff at large were directly responsible for the disastrous losses to PSU & Colorado State and also had a solid hand in the FSU/Clemson games, though they would have won the latter it in spite of him had Rouse not developed stone hands at exactly the wrong moment.

[twballgame9]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

Uhh...it was constantly called into question, but it was brushed off because the BC fanbase was just happy to have a team that wasn't a total disgrace.

That team in 2014 was actually really good and would have gone 9-3 with a better coach. Daz and the coaching staff at large were directly responsible for the disastrous losses to PSU & Colorado State and also had a solid hand in the FSU/Clemson games, though they would have won the latter it in spite of him had Rouse not developed stone hands at exactly the wrong moment.

So was it Rouse or coaching? Get your shit together and get back to me.

[twballgame9]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

Uhh...it was constantly called into question, but it was brushed off because the BC fanbase was just happy to have a team that wasn't a total disgrace.

That team in 2014 was actually really good and would have gone 9-3 with a better coach. Daz and the coaching staff at large were directly responsible for the disastrous losses to PSU & Colorado State and also had a solid hand in the FSU/Clemson games, though they would have won the latter it in spite of him had Rouse not developed stone hands at exactly the wrong moment.

So was it Rouse or coaching? Get your shit together and get back to me.

[Eaglekeeper]

Christ Teddy ballgame, do you still think Daz knows anything about offense???? Keep that fucking idiot away from the offense or suffer through another losing season!

[twballgame9]

Yes, because I am a Daz apologist for suggesting him being an idiot will cost one game instead of 3 because there will be a return to norm and games against the 7 teams they should beat won't all come down to last minute coaching like last year.

[eepstein0]

Yes, because I am a Daz apologist for suggesting him being an idiot will cost one game instead of 3 because there will be a return to norm and games against the 7 teams they should beat won't all come down to last minute coaching like last year.

I don't think Loeffler came in here without autonomous control of the offense

[ATLeagle]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

ummm, ryan day isn't walking back through that door

He will in two years...as Head Coach Ryan Day.

[eagle9903]

I think one of those 10 "winnable games" would be a major upset. I see 9 winnable games, with Sarge blowing one. I think we are overstating the impact of coaching on games. Last year had a unique opportunity to put a microscope on some bad coaching because most of the winnable games came down to the wire. In prior years, those close losses were against better teams like FSU or Clemson, and coaching wasn't so readily called into question. If the offense improves sufficiently, Sarge won't have as many opportunities to fuck things up.

Uhh...it was constantly called into question, but it was brushed off because the BC fanbase was just happy to have a team that wasn't a total disgrace.

That team in 2014 was actually really good and would have gone 9-3 with a better coach. Daz and the coaching staff at large were directly responsible for the disastrous losses to PSU & Colorado State and also had a solid hand in the FSU/Clemson games, though they would have won the latter it in spite of him had Rouse not developed stone hands at exactly the wrong moment.

This is revisionist retardation of the most retarded kind of retardery. As Mo'J and huang will remind you, CSU and PSU were both primarily meltdowns by Don Brown's defense, for which as everyone else in this thread will remind you, Daz gets not credit (and therefore no blame). Plus another coach doesn't have Murphy or Silberman, which probably makes it a pretty different season.

Try and keep track:

Defense: 100% Brown;
Special teams: kicking 100% Addazio; positive return game 100% not Addazio
Offense: good = 100% Ryan Day in 2013 and 2014, there was no good in 2015; bad 100% Addazio taking over in 2013 and 2014 and 100% overall Addazio in 2015.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Yes, because I am a Daz apologist for suggesting him being an idiot will cost one game instead of 3 because there will be a return to norm and games against the 7 teams they should beat won't all come down to last minute coaching like last year.

I don't think Loeffler came in here without autonomous control of the offense

It's this. No way Loeffler has final say on anything right now.