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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby hinghameagle on Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:07 am

horribly deficient offensive line. A qb who looks like he can throw the ball but makes bad decisions. The absolute least accomplished returning receiving corps in the country. FG kicking woes that have not been remedied. All of this led by a coach who cant handle pressure and acts like a maniac on the sidelines. If 7 wins is available, I sign for it on the spot.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:37 pm

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:We have a new OC and a new DC to break in and essentially whether or not it's Wade, a new QB to break in. The offense has to improve a lot to get to 7 wins. Just because the games were close last year does not mean that some improvement (7 ppg) leads to any more wins. The ACC Atlantic teams will all improve this year as well. I'm worried what level the defense can attain without Don Brown. The GT game is huge, a win over Tech could get them to 7. A loss, followed by a loss to VT and they are 0-2 in the conference with a ten game conference losing streak hanging over their heads.


how do you rationalize BC having to break in a new QB, OC, etc ... and then say the rest of the league will be better ? The reality is most of the teams on BC's schedule are in a very similar position. NC State is breaking in a new QB and OC. Syracuse is breaking in a new QB and new staff. VT will be in the same position offensively with a new QB and new system. Wake is Wake. Louisville will be improved this season, but to say the league as a whole will be improved and BC is a huge question is just wrong.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:59 pm

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:10 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:tell the truth, everytime you see "wagner" you think "wanger" and get excited.

Yes.

TRE {l Wrote}:i see you posting a lot during the week before and after the wanger game

I will be posting a lot during the game, too.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby Eaglekeeper on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:05 pm

Superfan: Except for the fact that we lost to all of those teams last season. It's a help to us that VT and SU are also breaking in new QB's and OC's, but we're the winless team that has the most ground to make up. Remember for all your SU bashing, Daz is 1-2 against them. I really hope that last season was a fluke, but if Daz does not stay away from the offense this program is in huge trouble short term. Long term if Daz fails we bring back Don Brown as HC.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby twballgame9 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:41 pm

Ha, if BC doesn't win 7 games with this shitty schedule, it is an utter failure.

PS probably should have won 6 last year, with no QB or OLine.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:44 pm

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Superfan: Except for the fact that we lost to all of those teams last season. It's a help to us that VT and SU are also breaking in new QB's and OC's, but we're the winless team that has the most ground to make up. Remember for all your SU bashing, Daz is 1-2 against them. I really hope that last season was a fluke, but if Daz does not stay away from the offense this program is in huge trouble short term. Long term if Daz fails we bring back Don Brown as HC.


What does last year, or BC's record vs. Syracuse the last 3 years, have to do with anything ? The injury situation was unprecedented and its hardly fair to take anything from last year. I don't make a habit of SU bashing, nor did I do so in my previous post, so Im not really sure where you're going with that, but again, I don't see how them coming from behind to win 2 games at home and getting throttled on the road @ BC means anything for this upcoming season.

My only comment was in regards to your suggestion that the schools on the schedule are all going to be magically better when most are facing the same dynamics in terms of roster/coaching turnover that you attribute as a deficiency to BC (the only difference being they avoided losing players at every offensive position of note which allowed them to win a few more games in conference last season).

Also, Don Brown coming back here as HC is about as conceivable as your magical new basketball arena and sports complex on the synagogue land.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:41 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Ha, if BC doesn't win 7 games with this shitty schedule, it is an utter failure.

PS probably should have won 6 last year, with no QB or OLine.


It's this.

They're not beating Clemson, FSU or Lville, but the rest of the teams on the schedule are atrocious. They're probably not winning down at Lane either I guess.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:44 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:Superfan: Except for the fact that we lost to all of those teams last season. It's a help to us that VT and SU are also breaking in new QB's and OC's, but we're the winless team that has the most ground to make up. Remember for all your SU bashing, Daz is 1-2 against them. I really hope that last season was a fluke, but if Daz does not stay away from the offense this program is in huge trouble short term. Long term if Daz fails we bring back Don Brown as HC.


What does last year, or BC's record vs. Syracuse the last 3 years, have to do with anything ? The injury situation was unprecedented and its hardly fair to take anything from last year. I don't make a habit of SU bashing, nor did I do so in my previous post, so Im not really sure where you're going with that, but again, I don't see how them coming from behind to win 2 games at home and getting throttled on the road @ BC means anything for this upcoming season.

My only comment was in regards to your suggestion that the schools on the schedule are all going to be magically better when most are facing the same dynamics in terms of roster/coaching turnover that you attribute as a deficiency to BC (the only difference being they avoided losing players at every offensive position of note which allowed them to win a few more games in conference last season).

Also, Don Brown coming back here as HC is about as conceivable as your magical new basketball arena and sports complex on the synagogue land.


People would be wise to forget last year happened. It would've taken a Meyer/Saban level of coaching to fix that disaster.

If we're playing a walk on QB, our 5th string RB and an all freshman OLine at any point this season Daz needs to pray more or something.

They'll go like 6-6 or 7-5 and you'll all be upset I'm sure.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eepstein0 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:48 pm

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:The OOC is comically bad (of course), but the in conference could cut a bunch of ways. Since i like BC sports and want the football team to win games, I would prefer the Syracuse and Va Tech game to be as early as possible so that they are still suffering from massive schematic changes. I think the OOC gimmes play out in a way that will prevent abandoning all hope even if BC loses to Gtech, Va Tech and Clemson, but if they lose those three and Cuse, you can call the Sarge era (he probably won't actually get fired, but should).

What's kind of funny is that if Sarge beats Gtech, he can coast to an on paper acceptable season.


That UMass game, at noon, after flying back from Dublin is the trapiest of all trap games. I know UMass sucks but that one concerns me.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:20 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:The OOC is comically bad (of course), but the in conference could cut a bunch of ways. Since i like BC sports and want the football team to win games, I would prefer the Syracuse and Va Tech game to be as early as possible so that they are still suffering from massive schematic changes. I think the OOC gimmes play out in a way that will prevent abandoning all hope even if BC loses to Gtech, Va Tech and Clemson, but if they lose those three and Cuse, you can call the Sarge era (he probably won't actually get fired, but should).

What's kind of funny is that if Sarge beats Gtech, he can coast to an on paper acceptable season.


That UMass game, at noon, after flying back from Dublin is the trapiest of all trap games. I know UMass sucks but that one concerns me.

More than UConn?

I expect them to lose in Dublin, so I don't think they'll be resting on their laurels like they otherwise might for UMass.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eagle33 on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:52 pm

Season ticket sales must be tanking. I've been hounded with emails for weeks but I'm not renewing my tickets. Fuck Bates and his scheduling.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby Eaglekeeper on Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:26 pm

BC was really bad last season on offense led by horrible play calling and horrible game plans by Daz. Don Brown was the only positive in the whole program and he is gone. DB coming back as HC should the job open is a natural fit and he will be strongly considered. Just because the games were close last year does not mean they will be close this year. We all know the competition and any decent coaching staff has to prepare to face better teams this year. The problem is not the competition, it's BC themselves. GT, VT, SU, NC St, Wake are not good programs, but they are playing on a higher level than BC today. All of the OOC teams suck, but so does BC heading into this season. It does not mean that there will not be significant improvement and a winning season, but the problems run deeper than the injuries. That is why the new OC and DC and Daz staying away from both sides of the ball is key to this program succeeding or imploding. Losing to Wake and SU last year are red flags. I really hope we crush many of the teams on the schedule, but there is a lot of improvement needed in a short period of time. One sign of a good coach is that his team is better in Nov than in Sept., that has not been the case with Daz.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby hansen on Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:23 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Ha, if BC doesn't win 7 games with this shitty schedule, it is an utter failure.

PS probably should have won 6 last year, with no QB or OLine.


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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby hansen on Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:24 pm

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BC was really bad last season on offense led by horrible play calling and horrible game plans by Daz. Don Brown was the only positive in the whole program and he is gone. DB coming back as HC should the job open is a natural fit and he will be strongly considered. Just because the games were close last year does not mean they will be close this year. We all know the competition and any decent coaching staff has to prepare to face better teams this year. The problem is not the competition, it's BC themselves. GT, VT, SU, NC St, Wake are not good programs, but they are playing on a higher level than BC today. All of the OOC teams suck, but so does BC heading into this season. It does not mean that there will not be significant improvement and a winning season, but the problems run deeper than the injuries. That is why the new OC and DC and Daz staying away from both sides of the ball is key to this program succeeding or imploding. Losing to Wake and SU last year are red flags. I really hope we crush many of the teams on the schedule, but there is a lot of improvement needed in a short period of time. One sign of a good coach is that his team is better in Nov than in Sept., that has not been the case with Daz.


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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:01 am

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BC was really bad last season on offense led by horrible play calling and horrible game plans by Daz. Don Brown was the only positive in the whole program and he is gone. DB coming back as HC should the job open is a natural fit and he will be strongly considered. Just because the games were close last year does not mean they will be close this year. We all know the competition and any decent coaching staff has to prepare to face better teams this year. The problem is not the competition, it's BC themselves. GT, VT, SU, NC St, Wake are not good programs, but they are playing on a higher level than BC today. All of the OOC teams suck, but so does BC heading into this season. It does not mean that there will not be significant improvement and a winning season, but the problems run deeper than the injuries. That is why the new OC and DC and Daz staying away from both sides of the ball is key to this program succeeding or imploding. Losing to Wake and SU last year are red flags. I really hope we crush many of the teams on the schedule, but there is a lot of improvement needed in a short period of time. One sign of a good coach is that his team is better in Nov than in Sept., that has not been the case with Daz.


I really think you're discounting the injury disaster last year. Daz isn't a good enough coach to overcome that many injuries.

The first two years were pretty much fine.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:22 am

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BC was really bad last season on offense led by horrible play calling and horrible game plans by Daz. Don Brown was the only positive in the whole program and he is gone. DB coming back as HC should the job open is a natural fit and he will be strongly considered. Just because the games were close last year does not mean they will be close this year. We all know the competition and any decent coaching staff has to prepare to face better teams this year. The problem is not the competition, it's BC themselves. GT, VT, SU, NC St, Wake are not good programs, but they are playing on a higher level than BC today. All of the OOC teams suck, but so does BC heading into this season. It does not mean that there will not be significant improvement and a winning season, but the problems run deeper than the injuries. That is why the new OC and DC and Daz staying away from both sides of the ball is key to this program succeeding or imploding. Losing to Wake and SU last year are red flags. I really hope we crush many of the teams on the schedule, but there is a lot of improvement needed in a short period of time. One sign of a good coach is that his team is better in Nov than in Sept., that has not been the case with Daz.


You're not making any logical sense in these ramblings so I'm just gonna leave it alone. Just as an aside, you do realize that your "one positive in the whole program" is the main reason that BC didn't win 9 games in 2014 (CSU and Penn State collapse jobs).
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:59 am

hansen {l Wrote}:
Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:BC was really bad last season on offense led by horrible play calling and horrible game plans by Daz. Don Brown was the only positive in the whole program and he is gone. DB coming back as HC should the job open is a natural fit and he will be strongly considered. Just because the games were close last year does not mean they will be close this year. We all know the competition and any decent coaching staff has to prepare to face better teams this year. The problem is not the competition, it's BC themselves. GT, VT, SU, NC St, Wake are not good programs, but they are playing on a higher level than BC today. All of the OOC teams suck, but so does BC heading into this season. It does not mean that there will not be significant improvement and a winning season, but the problems run deeper than the injuries. That is why the new OC and DC and Daz staying away from both sides of the ball is key to this program succeeding or imploding. Losing to Wake and SU last year are red flags. I really hope we crush many of the teams on the schedule, but there is a lot of improvement needed in a short period of time. One sign of a good coach is that his team is better in Nov than in Sept., that has not been the case with Daz.


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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eagle9903 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:01 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:... Wake is Wake...



our defense will not be as good as last year


I think I may have said this before, but don't care really either way. If the offense is better, the defense will be statistically worse regardless because we won't have 3/4 of a season of the other team running out the clock.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:33 am

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:13 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:intern cut-and-paste

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby eepstein0 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:28 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:... Wake is Wake...



our defense will not be as good as last year


I think I may have said this before, but don't care really either way. If the offense is better, the defense will be statistically worse regardless because we won't have 3/4 of a season of the other team running out the clock.


The fact Daz called a dive play there still boggles my mind. To make matters worse he said there was plenty of time for it.

That play should've been a naked bootleg left where Smith can just lob it OOB if he isn't going to score
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:47 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:That play should've been a naked bootleg left where Smith can just lob it OOB if he isn't going to score


It was a first down. First down means run up the middle. No exceptions: exceptions are for losers and dudes aren't losers!

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby hansen on Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:06 am

Corporal Funishment {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:That play should've been a naked bootleg left where Smith can just lob it OOB if he isn't going to score


It was a first down. First down means run up the middle. No exceptions: exceptions are for losers and dudes aren't losers!

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby Eaglekeeper on Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:16 pm

I'm not discounting the injuries, but I have seen nothing in 3 years to give me any hope that we will ever have a good offense under Daz. The D improved every year and the offense, other than the USC and VT (road) never put any game away, they always left the door open for those late game comebacks.

I give Daz credit for finding what I hope is a good OC and hopefully a decent DC to replace Brown. I like the short passing game that they displayed at the spring game, but I'm not counting on any improvement with this offense until I see Daz staying away from the offense. I've never seen a coach so bad at play calling!
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:54 pm

i'm hearing the defense will have a whole new look this year
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:28 pm

Eaglekeeper {l Wrote}:other than the USC and VT

Those are two pretty big exceptions.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby claver2010 on Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:36 pm

I'm not sure what would classify as 'putting the game away' but in year 1 & 2 they put up at least 28 points in 50% of their games against p5 teams. if they do that with this d & this shitty schedule, they'll be fine.
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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby angrychicken on Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:50 pm

7-5 is the new 10-2

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Re: BC Football 2016

Postby Eaglekeeper on Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:13 pm

SC had an average year when BC beat them. Still a great win for BC. VT was at best average that year. The offense should have improved after beating USC, but they regressed against CSU. Good coaches get improvement every week, hopefully we will see exactly that out of SL.
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