Patience...patience....patience

[eagletx]

Just how long does it take??

[DavidGordonsFoot]

If Sarge's O-Line recruits pan out, it will be less than four years. Everything hinges on that unit performing at an elite level.

If Sarge gets canned this year or next, then we're probably looking at 5 more years of waiting.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

5 years.

two more years of daz doing nothing but yelling at refs, coaches and players and winning 4 - 7 games and then 3 years for a realish coach to put in players that can actually play together and do more then run the ball up the middle on 1st and 2nd down

[twballgame9]

If the OLine gels, they'll get 7 or 8 and knock someone off this year. The only real question is whether he's ever going to get them past mediocrity to at least Day Walking Ginger levels.

[DuchesneEast]

If the OLine gels, they'll get 7 or 8 and knock someone off this year. The only real question is whether he's ever going to get them past mediocrity to at least Day Walking Ginger levels.

This, at BC it will always be about the offensive line. I we win that battle, we win games.

[dtwalrus]

Pop Quiz: Would You Fire?

Arrival -3: 8-4
Arrival -2: 6-5
Arrival -1: 9-2
Year 1: 2-9
Year 2: 3-8
Year 3: 6-4-1
Year 4: 6-5
Year 5: 5-6
Year 6: 2-8-1

Of course, this is rhetorical, but clearly most people on this board would fire the above coach in a heartbeat. It was Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Some schools can expect a new coach to compete for Championships within 2 or 3 years. Not BC. Just never going to happen. It's a progression. We don't even have a full roster of Daz recruits yet. He gets the full five. And he goes even .500 in the next two years and he gets two or three more with the full roster. Those two or three years better be very competitive though...

[Shoreagle]

5 years.

two more years of daz doing nothing but yelling at refs, coaches and players and winning 4 - 7 games and then 3 years for a realish coach to put in players that can actually play together and do more then run the ball up the middle on 1st and 2nd down

And who from BC is going to hire this "realish coach"? Because I don't have any confidence that the powers that be who are there now can or will do it.

[eepstein0]

If the OLine gels, they'll get 7 or 8 and knock someone off this year. The only real question is whether he's ever going to get them past mediocrity to at least Day Walking Ginger levels.

The OLine doesn't even need to be awesome. It just can't be the comedy of last year.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

5 years.

two more years of daz doing nothing but yelling at refs, coaches and players and winning 4 - 7 games and then 3 years for a realish coach to put in players that can actually play together and do more then run the ball up the middle on 1st and 2nd down

And who from BC is going to hire this "realish coach"? Because I don't have any confidence that the powers that be who are there now can or will do it.

bates will be fired at the same time slaughter is. new guy hires new coach.

what years do the contracts run out for butt-cut and sarge?

[commavegarage]

i love when people find the one example of a outstanding/paid players/allowed thugs/however you wanna classify him as the rule for giving coaches time.

in a similar light, should our minimum expectations be:

year 1: 4-8
year 2: 5-7
year 3: 8-5
year 4: 12-1

harbaugh did that to a team that had been bad for decades, so that should be the expectation right?

[dtwalrus]

i love when people find the one example of a outstanding/paid players/allowed thugs/however you wanna classify him as the rule for giving coaches time.

in a similar light, should our minimum expectations be:

year 1: 4-8
year 2: 5-7
year 3: 8-5
year 4: 12-1

harbaugh did that to a team that had been bad for decades, so that should be the expectation right?

Maybe we're talking two opposite ends of the spectrum. Maybe Beamer is the most extreme example of slow starts. By the same token, Harbaugh is on the opposite extreme for starts. Just for comparison's sake though, years 1-3:

Harbaugh: 17-20
Daz: 16-22.
Beamer: 11-21-1

Looks like Daz stacks up with both of these greats! Closer to Harbaugh too!

[angrychicken]

i love when people find the one example of a outstanding/paid players/allowed thugs/however you wanna classify him as the rule for giving coaches time.

in a similar light, should our minimum expectations be:

year 1: 4-8
year 2: 5-7
year 3: 8-5
year 4: 12-1

harbaugh did that to a team that had been bad for decades, so that should be the expectation right?

Maybe we're talking two opposite ends of the spectrum. Maybe Beamer is the most extreme example of slow starts. By the same token, Harbaugh is on the opposite extreme for starts. Just for comparison's sake though, years 1-3:

Harbaugh: 17-20
Daz: 16-22.
Beamer: 11-21-1

Looks like Daz stacks up with both of these greats! Closer to Harbaugh too!

You conveniently ignore the fact that Addazio's record has regressed each year while Harbaugh's improved.

[eagletx]

Pop Quiz: Would You Fire?

Arrival -3: 8-4
Arrival -2: 6-5
Arrival -1: 9-2
Year 1: 2-9
Year 2: 3-8
Year 3: 6-4-1
Year 4: 6-5
Year 5: 5-6
Year 6: 2-8-1

Of course, this is rhetorical, but clearly most people on this board would fire the above coach in a heartbeat. It was Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Some schools can expect a new coach to compete for Championships within 2 or 3 years. Not BC. Just never going to happen. It's a progression. We don't even have a full roster of Daz recruits yet. He gets the full five. And he goes even .500 in the next two years and he gets two or three more with the full roster. Those two or three years better be very competitive though...

Of course, you failed to mention that Beamer and Tech were laboring under NCAA penalties with scholarship losses his first three years for infractions committed by his predecessor.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Pop Quiz: Would You Fire?

Arrival -3: 8-4
Arrival -2: 6-5
Arrival -1: 9-2
Year 1: 2-9
Year 2: 3-8
Year 3: 6-4-1
Year 4: 6-5
Year 5: 5-6
Year 6: 2-8-1

Of course, this is rhetorical, but clearly most people on this board would fire the above coach in a heartbeat. It was Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Some schools can expect a new coach to compete for Championships within 2 or 3 years. Not BC. Just never going to happen. It's a progression. We don't even have a full roster of Daz recruits yet. He gets the full five. And he goes even .500 in the next two years and he gets two or three more with the full roster. Those two or three years better be very competitive though...

Of course, you failed to mention that Beamer and Tech were laboring under NCAA penalties with scholarship losses his first three years for infractions committed by his predecessor.

BC was essentially in a similar situation with Spaziani's under recruiting and demolition of this program. They were as close to being on NCAA probation without officially being so

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Pop Quiz: Would You Fire?

Arrival -3: 8-4
Arrival -2: 6-5
Arrival -1: 9-2
Year 1: 2-9
Year 2: 3-8
Year 3: 6-4-1
Year 4: 6-5
Year 5: 5-6
Year 6: 2-8-1

Of course, this is rhetorical, but clearly most people on this board would fire the above coach in a heartbeat. It was Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Some schools can expect a new coach to compete for Championships within 2 or 3 years. Not BC. Just never going to happen. It's a progression. We don't even have a full roster of Daz recruits yet. He gets the full five. And he goes even .500 in the next two years and he gets two or three more with the full roster. Those two or three years better be very competitive though...

Of course, you failed to mention that Beamer and Tech were laboring under NCAA penalties with scholarship losses his first three years for infractions committed by his predecessor.

BC was essentially in a similar situation with Spaziani's under recruiting and demolition of this program. They were as close to being on NCAA probation without officially being so

And yet sarge has done progressively worse each year that he's added his own players

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Pop Quiz: Would You Fire?

Arrival -3: 8-4
Arrival -2: 6-5
Arrival -1: 9-2
Year 1: 2-9
Year 2: 3-8
Year 3: 6-4-1
Year 4: 6-5
Year 5: 5-6
Year 6: 2-8-1

Of course, this is rhetorical, but clearly most people on this board would fire the above coach in a heartbeat. It was Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

Some schools can expect a new coach to compete for Championships within 2 or 3 years. Not BC. Just never going to happen. It's a progression. We don't even have a full roster of Daz recruits yet. He gets the full five. And he goes even .500 in the next two years and he gets two or three more with the full roster. Those two or three years better be very competitive though...

Of course, you failed to mention that Beamer and Tech were laboring under NCAA penalties with scholarship losses his first three years for infractions committed by his predecessor.

BC was essentially in a similar situation with Spaziani's under recruiting and demolition of this program. They were as close to being on NCAA probation without officially being so

And yet sarge has done progressively worse each year that he's added his own players

Because the numbers are catching up to him now. It was Spaz's later classes when his recruiting hit rock bottom, specifically in numbers, the classes that would be seniors now. Prime example is on the OL. In Spaziani's last full class and the transition class (which was primarily put together by Spaz) he took a total of 3 (3 in 2012 and 0 in 2013). Of those 3, only Frank Taylor and Cashman stuck around (Homer left). In Addazio's first full classes he has taken 4 (2014), 5 (2015) and 4 in 2016. I don't care who you are, those numbers cant work.

[hansen]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

[dtwalrus]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

For all of my Polly Anna'ish support of Daz, I still completely agree with this.

Everything comes down to OL. But if Daz tells us we'll be dominant on the line once these guys are seniors, they should at least be solid in their second year starting. And with all the other talent on offense and what should still be a very good defense, and the 4 OOC cupcakes, 7 regular season wins is the minimum expectation.

Although with FSU, Clemson, Louisville and VT on the schedule annually, even in a good year it's possible to go 0-4 there. The conference schedule is now really tight for BC.

[eagle9903]

5 years.

two more years of daz doing nothing but yelling at refs, coaches and players and winning 4 - 7 games and then 3 years for a realish coach to put in players that can actually play together and do more then run the ball up the middle on 1st and 2nd down

And who from BC is going to hire this "realish coach"? Because I don't have any confidence that the powers that be who are there now can or will do it.

bates will be fired at the same time slaughter is. new guy hires new coach.

what years do the contracts run out for butt-cut and sarge?

So retardeds will replace bates with a different retarded who will hire don treadwell

[angrychicken]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

Towles should not start.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

Towles should not start.

but you know sarge is already working on his promo for towles

"you know mean gene, what this country needs is a leader. a man that inspires confidence with is abilities, his maturity and his experience. and much like this country, this offense needs a leader. and the only leader with those qualities is someone that's been at this game a lot longer than his fellow players. we need towles in that huddle.

and with towles under center you can expect that the next time we have a team like wake on the ropes and on their way down, towles will slap on that camel clutch and ride them right into submission.

god bless america and god bless bc.

whooooooo!"

that selfish prick will start towles in every game that he's not injured just to save his ass. of course, cracking the rock will render that decision useless and makes me wonder if it really will cause microdick to jump off a building

[angrychicken]

"you know mean gene, what this country needs is a leader. a man that inspires confidence with is abilities, his maturity and his experience. and much like this country, this offense needs a leader. and the only leader with those qualities is someone that's been at this game a lot longer than his fellow players. we need towles in that huddle.

and with towles under center you can expect that the next time we have a team like wake on the ropes and on their way down, towles will slap on that camel clutch and ride them right into submission.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Adealson has already bought into Sarge's narrative. This is so frustrating.

Boston College remains one of the youngest teams in the ACC, with a raw offensive line, unproven receivers and uncertainty at the most important position on the field.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

Towles should not start.

but you know sarge is already working on his promo for towles

"you know mean gene, what this country needs is a leader. a man that inspires confidence with is abilities, his maturity and his experience. and much like this country, this offense needs a leader. and the only leader with those qualities is someone that's been at this game a lot longer than his fellow players. we need towles in that huddle.

and with towles under center you can expect that the next time we have a team like wake on the ropes and on their way down, towles will slap on that camel clutch and ride them right into submission.

god bless america and god bless bc.

whooooooo!"

that selfish prick will start towles in every game that he's not injured just to save his ass. of course, cracking the rock will render that decision useless and makes me wonder if it really will cause microdick to jump off a building

The fact that Sarge is relying on a fifth year transfer QB in year 4 is fucking ridiculous.

[MilitantEagle]

Barring a serious injury to Towles or Hilliman, anything less than 7 wins with this weak ass schedule is regression.

Towles should not start.

but you know sarge is already working on his promo for towles

"you know mean gene, what this country needs is a leader. a man that inspires confidence with is abilities, his maturity and his experience. and much like this country, this offense needs a leader. and the only leader with those qualities is someone that's been at this game a lot longer than his fellow players. we need towles in that huddle.

and with towles under center you can expect that the next time we have a team like wake on the ropes and on their way down, towles will slap on that camel clutch and ride them right into submission.

god bless america and god bless bc.

whooooooo!"

that selfish prick will start towles in every game that he's not injured just to save his ass. of course, cracking the rock will render that decision useless and makes me wonder if it really will cause microdick to jump off a building

The fact that Sarge is relying on a fifth year transfer QB in year 4 is fucking ridiculous.

Eh, positives and negatives. He's not TOB in the sense that he recognizes that his guy (Wade) may not be ready and he's willing to do whatever it takes to win. After last year's disaster at the QB position, I'm glad we have two, maybe three, solid QBs on the roster. Can't see how anybody could complain about bringing in Towles.

[claver2010]

eh after what happened last year I don't blame him for bringing a 5th year in

say wade goes down, then what? we're back with smith or a true FR

[DavidGordonsFoot]

say wade goes down, then what? we're back with smith or a true FR

I think Smith should still be on the QB depth chart. If Sarge is hell-bent on running the ball, he might as well give opposing defenses two running threats to account for instead of one.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

Can't see how anybody could complain about bringing in Towles.

I'm not complaining that Sarge brought in Towles. I'm complaining that Sarge has failed to groom a QB who is ready to take the ball in Dublin in 3+ years on the job.

[angrychicken]

I'm glad that Towles is there. I just think that, unless he is significantly better than Wade, he should not be the starter. The best we're hoping for this year is a crappy bowl in early December, regardless of who is starting at QB. The more that Wade sees the field this year, the better off we are later on.

[twballgame9]

In fairness, while he still says they are young, he also says this in the Adelson article:

"We’re in good shape right now. If you say, ‘Steve, what’s your biggest concern?’ How fast can we develop the youth. Will this be a group of guys that will win a bunch of games at BC? Absolutely. I just want it to be now. I don’t want it to be two years from now, I want it to be now, and they want it to be now.”

And Wade clearly has a chance to keep the job:

Addazio said Towles and Wade had “phenomenal springs” but is not ready to name a starter just yet.