Facilities Announcement -- Press Conference Today

[angrychicken]

From the President's office to the Board of Trustees to the athletic department to the football staff to the hoops staff...nuclear enema.

[twballgame9]

There is nothing wrong with DBS. Win football games.

[commavegarage]

There is nothing wrong with DBS. Win football games.

this

[DavidGordonsFoot]

There is nothing wrong with DBS. Win football games.

There's nothing wrong with having DBS. I have a problem with the way Gene rolled it out. He should have grandfathered in the people who had those seats.

[twballgame9]

There is nothing wrong with DBS. Win football games.

There's nothing wrong with having DBS. I have a problem with the way Gene rolled it out. He should have grandfathered in the people who had those seats.

Most of those people suck anyway. They come to the games at least, which is great, but they are terrible football fans. If DBS cleared out whalepants, good. They just failed to figure out how to replace them.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

There is nothing wrong with DBS. Win football games.

There's nothing wrong with having DBS. I have a problem with the way Gene rolled it out. He should have grandfathered in the people who had those seats.

Most of those people suck anyway. They come to the games at least, which is great, but they are terrible football fans. If DBS cleared out whalepants, good. They just failed to figure out how to replace them.

this - those people were not spending any money other than the price of the ticket that got them into the game. fuck them and their entitled children that feel they "own" seats because their grandparent wore an onion on their belt back in dickety-two.

put a tolerable product on the field, create a tolerable atmosphere in and around the stadium and people will come. no one wants to dig into their pockets on a saturday to be uncomfortable, get yelled at, and shamed. they'll get that in church on sunday

also no, don't fill in the fucking corners.

[DavidGordonsFoot]

I just saw an online commercial for Oregon football and their new Marcus Mariota Workout Center or whatever it's called has a giant duck-themed throne in the middle of it. Does this shit really matter to recruits?

The ad included a poorly edited clip from Game of Thrones that made it look like Cersei was addressing the Oregon mascot. It's cringe-worthy.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

I just saw an online commercial for Oregon football and their new Marcus Mariota Workout Center or whatever it's called has a giant duck-themed throne in the middle of it. Does this shit really matter to recruits?

The ad included a poorly edited clip from Game of Thrones that made it look like Cersei was addressing the Oregon mascot. It's cringe-worthy.

i bet she had a rider in her commercial contract that forbid her from being nekkid

[BCSUPERFAN22]

I just saw an online commercial for Oregon football and their new Marcus Mariota Workout Center or whatever it's called has a giant duck-themed throne in the middle of it. Does this shit really matter to recruits?

The ad included a poorly edited clip from Game of Thrones that made it look like Cersei was addressing the Oregon mascot. It's cringe-worthy.

https://twitter.com/OregonFBequip/status/773917139757518848

The answer is yea, maybe not the duck throne (although something like that is so small in relation to everything else at Oregon), but this building is full of shit that grabs the attention of 18 year old black kids and their parents

[DavidGordonsFoot]

I just saw an online commercial for Oregon football and their new Marcus Mariota Workout Center or whatever it's called has a giant duck-themed throne in the middle of it. Does this shit really matter to recruits?

The ad included a poorly edited clip from Game of Thrones that made it look like Cersei was addressing the Oregon mascot. It's cringe-worthy.

https://twitter.com/OregonFBequip/status/773917139757518848

The answer is yea, maybe not the duck throne (although something like that is so small in relation to everything else at Oregon), but this building is full of shit that grabs the attention of 18 year old black kids and their parents

BC Athletics could have the BRA's blessing to build whatever & wherever they want along with a blank check and they would never build something as ostentatious as that facility. As an alumni, I would be opposed to something that garish. Maybe that's part of the problem?

[BCSUPERFAN22]

I just saw an online commercial for Oregon football and their new Marcus Mariota Workout Center or whatever it's called has a giant duck-themed throne in the middle of it. Does this shit really matter to recruits?

The ad included a poorly edited clip from Game of Thrones that made it look like Cersei was addressing the Oregon mascot. It's cringe-worthy.

https://twitter.com/OregonFBequip/status/773917139757518848

The answer is yea, maybe not the duck throne (although something like that is so small in relation to everything else at Oregon), but this building is full of shit that grabs the attention of 18 year old black kids and their parents

BC Athletics could have the BRA's blessing to build whatever & wherever they want along with a blank check and they would never build something as ostentatious as that facility. As an alumni, I would be opposed to something that garish. Maybe that's part of the problem?

Its all relative though. Oregon builds that because it fits with the overall facility footprint, that's just their thing. Perhaps aesthetically what Oregon does is a bit much, but functionally, its the kind of crap that kids want to see (uniforms, apparel, etc ...).

BC doesn't have to build something that is aesthetically similar to Oregon, but if/when any type of facility improvements occur, they need to have a careful plan that what they are building has at least a similar functionality to other schools (i.e. Oregon) and will never be outgrown (upgrading with graphics and doing different things aesthetically to the interior of the building is obv much easier than having to build/add-on). These buildings cant be built with the blessing or wishes of alumni, they have to be focused towards the appetite of high school kids.

The bottom line is, whatever Oregon is doing, works. That is a state with equally bad high school football talent to Massachusetts and they have proven to be at least relevant for a long time while also seeing the highs of a BCSNCG.

[flyingelvii]

If anything it shows a school's commitment to the program and, by virtue, the player. The administration cares about the program so theoretically they will care about the player. It's marketing and BC is more or less stuck in the Mad Men era in several respects, not just facilities.

[eagle33]

Oregon builds that because it fits with the overall facility footprint, that's just their thing. Perhaps aesthetically what Oregon does is a bit much, but functionally, its the kind of crap that kids want to see (uniforms, apparel, etc ...).

BC doesn't have to build something that is aesthetically similar to Oregon, but if/when any type of facility improvements occur, they need to have a careful plan that what they are building has at least a similar functionality to other schools (i.e. Oregon) and will never be outgrown (upgrading with graphics and doing different things aesthetically to the interior of the building is obv much easier than having to build/add-on). These buildings cant be built with the blessing or wishes of alumni, they have to be focused towards the appetite of high school kids.

The bottom line is, whatever Oregon is doing, works. That is a state with equally bad high school football talent to Massachusetts and they have proven to be at least relevant for a long time while also seeing the highs of a BCSNCG.

I agree Oregon get the recruits they get because kids like that shit. But Oregon builds that because of Phil Knight. If it wasn't for him bankrolling their athletic department and facilities upgrades Oregon would most likely be on a par with Oregon State.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Oregon builds that because it fits with the overall facility footprint, that's just their thing. Perhaps aesthetically what Oregon does is a bit much, but functionally, its the kind of crap that kids want to see (uniforms, apparel, etc ...).

BC doesn't have to build something that is aesthetically similar to Oregon, but if/when any type of facility improvements occur, they need to have a careful plan that what they are building has at least a similar functionality to other schools (i.e. Oregon) and will never be outgrown (upgrading with graphics and doing different things aesthetically to the interior of the building is obv much easier than having to build/add-on). These buildings cant be built with the blessing or wishes of alumni, they have to be focused towards the appetite of high school kids.

The bottom line is, whatever Oregon is doing, works. That is a state with equally bad high school football talent to Massachusetts and they have proven to be at least relevant for a long time while also seeing the highs of a BCSNCG.

I agree Oregon get the recruits they get because kids like that shit. But Oregon builds that because of Phil Knight. If it wasn't for him bankrolling their athletic department and facilities upgrades Oregon would most likely be on a par with Oregon State.

OK, and ... ? BC and Oregon are in similar geographic areas in terms of local high school talent, its not good and both need to expand its recruiting base by going into more fertile areas with more competition. Regardless of how it happens, one has top end facilities and one doesn't, guess which has been a consistent winner the last 15 years.

With that being said, BC doesn't need Oregon type facilities or a Phil Knight type to back them. They need a few important things to bring them out of 1980's that are all very basic (IPF, Locker Rooms, Weight Room, maybe some type of recruiting area). Oregon aside, when you look at places like Syracuse, Northwestern and Wake Forest and see that their facilities are 100x better than anything BC is rolling out, you know there is a problem.

[TobaccoRoadEagle]

um, phil knight pays for all that shit. that's the "okay, and..."

we don't have a phil knight and our local athletic apparel company probably charges the school for using their lot for satellite parking on game days.

maybe if eepstein would sweet talk his fellow middlebury alum, we could get the good shit on campus paid for

[eagle33]

Oregon builds that because it fits with the overall facility footprint, that's just their thing. Perhaps aesthetically what Oregon does is a bit much, but functionally, its the kind of crap that kids want to see (uniforms, apparel, etc ...).

BC doesn't have to build something that is aesthetically similar to Oregon, but if/when any type of facility improvements occur, they need to have a careful plan that what they are building has at least a similar functionality to other schools (i.e. Oregon) and will never be outgrown (upgrading with graphics and doing different things aesthetically to the interior of the building is obv much easier than having to build/add-on). These buildings cant be built with the blessing or wishes of alumni, they have to be focused towards the appetite of high school kids.

The bottom line is, whatever Oregon is doing, works. That is a state with equally bad high school football talent to Massachusetts and they have proven to be at least relevant for a long time while also seeing the highs of a BCSNCG.

I agree Oregon get the recruits they get because kids like that shit. But Oregon builds that because of Phil Knight. If it wasn't for him bankrolling their athletic department and facilities upgrades Oregon would most likely be on a par with Oregon State.

OK, and ... ? BC and Oregon are in similar geographic areas in terms of local high school talent, its not good and both need to expand its recruiting base by going into more fertile areas with more competition. Regardless of how it happens, one has top end facilities and one doesn't, guess which has been a consistent winner the last 15 years.

With that being said, BC doesn't need Oregon type facilities or a Phil Knight type to back them. They need a few important things to bring them out of 1980's that are all very basic (IPF, Locker Rooms, Weight Room, maybe some type of recruiting area). Oregon aside, when you look at places like Syracuse, Northwestern and Wake Forest and see that their facilities are 100x better than anything BC is rolling out, you know there is a problem.

Oregon State has had an IPF since 2001, recruits the same areas as Oregon, and plays in the same conference. Why aren't they where Oregon is? It's because Phil Knight pays for all that outlandish shit at Oregon that kids like. BC needs everything you say facilities wise but the problem is more than just getting those facility upgrades.

[eepstein0]

um, phil knight pays for all that shit. that's the "okay, and..."

we don't have a phil knight and our local athletic apparel company probably charges the school for using their lot for satellite parking on game days.

maybe if eepstein would sweet talk his fellow middlebury alum, we could get the good shit on campus paid for

You're getting closer to the correct school. Middlebury is a step up though so we'll take it

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Looks like Vandy (of all places) is planning to pass BC in facilities now as well.

http://www.anchorofgold.com/2016/9/16/12943488/2016-ncaa-football-tennessean-vanderbilt-stadium-replacement

[dtwalrus]

Looks like Vandy (of all places) is planning to pass BC in facilities now as well.

http://www.anchorofgold.com/2016/9/16/12943488/2016-ncaa-football-tennessean-vanderbilt-stadium-replacement

I actually think Vandy could be a dominant force in the SEC if they spend more for top tier facilities.

No joke. Think about it.

There is a decent amount of top tier talent who really value a top tier education coming out of high school to field a very competitive team, even in the SEC. Right now those players are going to Stanford, Notre Dame, Michigan, Duke, etc. Vandy really could attract as much talent as Stanford, maybe even more, because they play in the SEC.

Right now Vandy is selling subpar facilities, questionable commitment to success, and the promise of being a doormat in the best conference in the country. But if they can convince recruits that the school is really committed to football and suddenly recruits actually believe they can win the best conference in the country, while also getting a truly elite education...

Just another way of saying Vandy really shouldn't be nearly as bad as they are.

[Eaglekeeper]

DBS killed attendance. The Red Sox do not have DBS and they love their season ticket holders. All BC had to do was increase the price of the game tickets. Asking for 4-8k more than the season before when you have zero donors lined up to replace your current season ticket holders is as fucking stupid as stupid gets.

ESPN Classic had 2002 BC vs VT game replay today. They showed off the new plans for the all sports facility. It included a scaled model that closed in the corners with buildings including adding on to the back of Conte Forum. All we ended up getting was the scaled down Yawkey Center.

[Bryn Mawr Eagle]

DBS killed attendance. The Red Sox do not have DBS and they love their season ticket holders. All BC had to do was increase the price of the game tickets. Asking for 4-8k more than the season before when you have zero donors lined up to replace your current season ticket holders is as fucking stupid as stupid gets.

ESPN Classic had 2002 BC vs VT game replay today. They showed off the new plans for the all sports facility. It included a scaled model that closed in the corners with buildings including adding on to the back of Conte Forum. All we ended up getting was the scaled down Yawkey Center.

A legitimate "fill in the corners" reference from Corners. Made my Friday. Thanks.

[HJS]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... -shut-down
I'm not on social media. It always seemed bizarre, needy and huge time suck. Whatever minor benefits it offered (through things like keeping in touch with friends) is lost in a sea of opinionated hate-baiters. Social media seems like a forum for the worst of humanity to air outrageousness. From people who get crippling hurt feelings over things like Disney costumes... to folks who spew violent vitriol to those who they claim shame others (contradict much?)... it is everything I hate in people. Here is an article about manufactured outrage over an AD who was celebrating with students at sporting event. If only BC had enough people who cared about football to tailgate... OR if it had an AD that other people wanted to share a beer with.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17610685/miami-unveil-plans-30-million-indoor-football-facility-friday

[angrychicken]

In addition, Bates stated that the University will begin discussions with Boston city officials regarding construction of an athletics field house that would be located adjacent to Alumni Stadium. This indoor facility, to be funded through private gifts, would provide much-needed space for varsity football and other field sports, as well as campus recreation, club sports, and intramurals.

This was 7 months ago. How are those discussions going?

[EagleDave]

My favorite part of the Miami announcement is that it's going to take 18 months to build, so it'll be open in 2018.

What was BC's timetable? 2025?

What a smokescreen that whole thing was after that BC hoops debacle at Wake Forest.

[HJS]

My favorite part of the Miami announcement is that it's going to take 18 months to build, so it'll be open in 2018.

What was BC's timetable? 2025?

What a smokescreen that whole thing was after that BC hoops debacle at Wake Forest.

BC doesn't have a timetable yet because (a) it isn't approved by the community and (b) it isn't paid for. As we should be aware by now, BC doesn't put shovels into the ground until they have the money donated. Bates & Co. are soliciting the funds now. That said, the IPF has been on the fundraising radar for a year. The fact that they don't have the money yet is another factor in considering how successful Bates has been at his job.

[Eaglekeeper]

It's all nonsense regarding fundraising. There has been no announcement of any capital campaign to raise the funds to build the IPF. Every FF donor should or would have been asked to donate any amount of money to help the cause, but nothing has been announced. Why would anyone limit the pool of donors to go after or pass up the opportunity to get a media splash by holding a kickoff event.

BC should borrow the money to build the IPF and hang onto their cash donations. If Leahy really wanted the annual deficit to be erased he would set up a separate endowment for athletics with a ten year capital campaign where the university would not charge the athletic department 18 million per year. That alone equals 180 million after 10 years along with another 250 million from the ACC. Even a 5% annual return on 500 million would cover the scholarship cost and permanently eliminate the annual operating losses once and forever.

[twballgame9]

It's all nonsense regarding fundraising. There has been no announcement of any capital campaign to raise the funds to build the IPF. Every FF donor should or would have been asked to donate any amount of money to help the cause, but nothing has been announced. Why would anyone limit the pool of donors to go after or pass up the opportunity to get a media splash by holding a kickoff event.

BC should borrow the money to build the IPF and hang onto their cash donations. If Leahy really wanted the annual deficit to be erased he would set up a separate endowment for athletics with a ten year capital campaign where the university would not charge the athletic department 18 million per year. That alone equals 180 million after 10 years along with another 250 million from the ACC. Even a 5% annual return on 500 million would cover the scholarship cost and permanently eliminate the annual operating losses once and forever.

Jesus stop and go eat at Flemmings.

[angrychicken]

It's all nonsense regarding fundraising. There has been no announcement of any capital campaign to raise the funds to build the IPF. Every FF donor should or would have been asked to donate any amount of money to help the cause, but nothing has been announced. Why would anyone limit the pool of donors to go after or pass up the opportunity to get a media splash by holding a kickoff event.

BC should borrow the money to build the IPF and hang onto their cash donations. If Leahy really wanted the annual deficit to be erased he would set up a separate endowment for athletics with a ten year capital campaign where the university would not charge the athletic department 18 million per year. That alone equals 180 million after 10 years along with another 250 million from the ACC. Even a 5% annual return on 500 million would cover the scholarship cost and permanently eliminate the annual operating losses once and forever.

Jesus stop and go eat at Flemmings.

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Another CFB doormat leaving BC in the dust ...

http://footballscoop.com/news/illinois-announces-132-million-facility-improvements/