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ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I think the nudge outs will be from the JR redshirts who have their degrees. As frustrating as he's been, Hilliman would be one of the last guys nudged out.

Agree 100%. I get the sense Daz loves Hilliman, he’s always bringing him up when people focus on Dillon.
If like to see Wade, Hilliman, Wilson come back but I don’t expect Wilson back.

hansen {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I think the nudge outs will be from the JR redshirts who have their degrees. As frustrating as he's been, Hilliman would be one of the last guys nudged out.

Agree 100%. I get the sense Daz loves Hilliman, he’s always bringing him up when people focus on Dillon.
If like to see Wade, Hilliman, Wilson come back but I don’t expect Wilson back.

Of course it makes sense to bring Hilliman, and Wade, back IF they want to come back.
As far as guys like Wilson, we are bringing in more guys than scholarships available. Tough decisions have to be made.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

hansen {l Wrote}:

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I think the nudge outs will be from the JR redshirts who have their degrees. As frustrating as he's been, Hilliman would be one of the last guys nudged out.

Agree 100%. I get the sense Daz loves Hilliman, he’s always bringing him up when people focus on Dillon.
If like to see Wade, Hilliman, Wilson come back but I don’t expect Wilson back.

Of course it makes sense to bring Hilliman, and Wade, back IF they want to come back.
As far as guys like Wilson, we are bringing in more guys than scholarships available. Tough decisions have to be made.

Wilson made logical sense to fill the spot that Wolford played at FB but didn't seem to get any playing time this year. Seemed they leaned on using TEs in that FB role this season

seems like we know the following:

Outgoing Seniors (11): Moore (DB), Landry (DE), Schwab (LB), Merritt (DT), Knoll (K), Ntantang (DB), Lazard (OL), Callinan (WR), Thadd Smith (WR), Yiadom (DB), McClary (DB)

"Seniors" that might leave (7): Strachan (LB), Schmal (OL), Baker (OL), Wade (QB), Hilliman (RB), Flutie (WR), Wilson (RB)

Seniors in 2018: Robinson (WR), Allen (DE), Walker (WR), J. Smith (WR), Harris (DB), Ray (DE), Denis (DB), Torres (DB), Bletzer (LB), Conte (OL), Monteiro (OL), Stevens (OL), Lindstrom (OL), Sweeney (TE), Vitiello (TE), Cohee (DL), Smith (DT), Lichtenberg (K)

Juniors in 2018: Cheevers (DB), Richardson (LB), Davon Jones (RB), Glines (WR), Al-Attrach (DB), J. Martin (LB), Karafa (DE), Knopfke (OL), Pallazolo (OL), Phillips (OL), Johnson (OL), Garrison (WR), Borgersen (WR), Idrizi (TE), Marten (TE), Burt (TE)

Sophomores in 2018: White (WR), Brown (QB), Palmer (DB), McStravick (WR), Lamot (LB), Korutz (DL), Barlow (DE), Fish (OL), Leonard (OL), Ragan (OL), Morais (DE), Carlson (K)

True freshmen who will be sophomores in 2018 (based on the Syracuse game notes re: appearances this season): Dillon (RB), Perry (QB), Levy (RB), Petrula (OL), A. Lindstrom (OL), McDuffie (LB), Rayam (DT)

Freshmen who redshirted: Haynes (DB), McDonald (QB), Lewis (WR), Sebastian (DB), Muse (DB), Theobald (LB), Long (TE), McQuarrie (TE), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Jordan-Williams (WR), Brown (TE), Berry (DT), Emer (DL), Valdez (DE)

Incoming recruits (20): Galloway (WR), Dirstine (OL), Shelmire (OL), Jones (ATH), Maitre (ATH), Davis (LB), DePalma (LB), Betro (DT), Stewart (LB), Langan (QB), Bennermon (DT), Sparacio (LB), Valecce (QB), Tessitore (K), DeNucci (LB), Gethers (CB), Bailey (RB), Luchetti (TE), Days (S), Vrabel (OL)

Ntantang is not on the team
Strachan and Baker are coming back.
I have no idea how you picked out the SRs that might leave from the SRs are coming back.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Ntantang is not on the team
Strachan and Baker are coming back.
I have no idea how you picked out the SRs that might leave from the SRs are coming back.

I read his first three categories as (1) no eligibility left, whether over 4 or 5 years; (2) senior in grade this year, fifth year eligibility left due to prior (Wade, Hilliman) or assumed (Baker, Strachan) redshirt; and (3) guys that are current juniors right now and have one year eligibility left regardless, and thus are not in question as to their return.

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:Ntantang is not on the team
Strachan and Baker are coming back.
I have no idea how you picked out the SRs that might leave from the SRs are coming back.

I read his first three categories as (1) no eligibility left, whether over 4 or 5 years; (2) senior in grade this year, fifth year eligibility left due to prior (Wade, Hilliman) or assumed (Baker, Strachan) redshirt; and (3) guys that are current juniors right now and have one year eligibility left regardless, and thus are not in question as to their return.

that's right - category 1 is seniors who are graduating and definitely gone. the second category is the ambiguous one - guys who may or may not have been featured on senior day or could leave. the third category is juniors who will be seniors next year.

2017 redshirts
Burnt: AJD, Levy, Perry, Petrula, Rayam, McDuffie.
?: CJ Lewis, Stewart, Stoneburner
Preserved: everyone else.

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:seems like we know the following:

Outgoing Seniors (11): Moore (DB), Landry (DE), Schwab (LB), Merritt (DT), Knoll (K), Ntantang (DB), Lazard (OL), Callinan (WR), Thadd Smith (WR), Yiadom (DB), McClary (DB)

"Seniors" that might leave (7): Strachan (LB), Schmal (OL), Baker (OL), Wade (QB), Hilliman (RB), Flutie (WR), Wilson (RB)

Seniors in 2018: Robinson (WR), Allen (DE), Walker (WR), J. Smith (WR), Harris (DB), Ray (DE), Denis (DB), Torres (DB), Bletzer (LB), Conte (OL), Monteiro (OL), Stevens (OL), Lindstrom (OL), Sweeney (TE), Vitiello (TE), Cohee (DL), Smith (DT), Lichtenberg (K)

Juniors in 2018: Cheevers (DB), Richardson (LB), Davon Jones (RB), Glines (WR), Al-Attrach (DB), J. Martin (LB), Karafa (DE), Knopfke (OL), Pallazolo (OL), Phillips (OL), Johnson (OL), Garrison (WR), Borgersen (WR), Idrizi (TE), Marten (TE), Burt (TE)

Sophomores in 2018: White (WR), Brown (QB), Palmer (DB), McStravick (WR), Lamot (LB), Korutz (DL), Barlow (DE), Fish (OL), Leonard (OL), Ragan (OL), Morais (DE), Carlson (K)

True freshmen who will be sophomores in 2018 (based on the Syracuse game notes re: appearances this season): Dillon (RB), Perry (QB), Levy (RB), Petrula (OL), A. Lindstrom (OL), McDuffie (LB), Rayam (DT)

Freshmen who redshirted: Haynes (DB), McDonald (QB), Lewis (WR), Sebastian (DB), Muse (DB), Theobald (LB), Long (TE), McQuarrie (TE), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Jordan-Williams (WR), Brown (TE), Berry (DT), Emer (DL), Valdez (DE)

Incoming recruits (20): Galloway (WR), Dirstine (OL), Shelmire (OL), Jones (ATH), Maitre (ATH), Davis (LB), DePalma (LB), Betro (DT), Stewart (LB), Langan (QB), Bennermon (DT), Sparacio (LB), Valecce (QB), Tessitore (K), DeNucci (LB), Gethers (CB), Bailey (RB), Luchetti (TE), Days (S), Vrabel (OL)

Why would Schmal leave? because he'll likely lose his starting spot next year with Baker and Johnson returning?

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:2017 redshirts
Burnt: AJD, Levy, Perry, Petrula, Rayam, McDuffie.
?: CJ Lewis, Stewart, Stoneburner
Preserved: everyone else.

According to the game participation chart Lewis played in 2 games, and Stewart and Stoneburner each 1. Also, Alec Lindstrom played in 1.

I don't know if it is accurate.

http://bceagles.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football

also Flutie didn't get a snap all season and Wilson played in 2 games, so I'd be somewhat surprised if they return.

believe flutie played in the end of the fenway game but point remains

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Why would Schmal leave? because he'll likely lose his starting spot next year with Baker and Johnson returning?

at the start of the season Schmal was listed as a senior on the team's website. must have been an error since the website now lists him as a junior and basic arithmetic says he has one more year.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:believe flutie played in the end of the fenway game but point remains

conceded.

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:believe flutie played in the end of the fenway game but point remains

conceded.

welcome back

updated to remove Ntantang, move Schmal to a 2018 senior, and clarify the senior/redshirt stuff. seems like we have at least 12 guys leaving and 20 guys set to come in (who knows if all offered scholarships).

Outgoing 2017 Seniors (10): Moore (DB), Landry (DE), Schwab (LB), Merritt (DT), Knoll (K), Lazard (OL), Callinan (WR), Thadd Smith (WR), Yiadom (DB), McClary (DB)

2017 "Seniors" that are probably gone (2): Flutie (WR), Wilson (RB)
2017 "Seniors" that likely receive a medical redshirt: Strachan (LB), Baker (OL)
2017 "Seniors" that may return/may seek grad transfer for more PT elsewhere: Wade (QB), Hilliman (RB)

Seniors in 2018: Schmal (OL), Robinson (WR), Allen (DE), Walker (WR), J. Smith (WR), Harris (DB), Ray (DE), Denis (DB), Torres (DB), Bletzer (LB), Conte (OL), Monteiro (OL), Stevens (OL), Lindstrom (OL), Sweeney (TE), Vitiello (TE), Cohee (DL), Smith (DT), Lichtenberg (K)

Juniors in 2018: Cheevers (DB), Richardson (LB), Davon Jones (RB), Glines (WR), Al-Attrach (DB), J. Martin (LB), Karafa (DE), Knopfke (OL), Pallazolo (OL), Phillips (OL), Johnson (OL), Garrison (WR), Borgersen (WR), Idrizi (TE), Marten (TE), Burt (TE)

Sophomores in 2018: White (WR), Brown (QB), Palmer (DB), McStravick (WR), Lamot (LB), Korutz (DL), Barlow (DE), Fish (OL), Leonard (OL), Ragan (OL), Morais (DE), Carlson (K)

True freshmen who will be sophomores in 2018: Dillon (RB), Perry (QB), Levy (RB), Petrula (OL), McDuffie (LB), Rayam (DT)

True freshmen who may or may not have redshirted: A. Lindstrom (OL), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Lewis (WR),

Freshmen who redshirted: Haynes (DB), McDonald (QB), Sebastian (DB), Muse (DB), Theobald (LB), Long (TE), McQuarrie (TE), Jordan-Williams (WR), Brown (TE), Berry (DT), Emer (DL), Valdez (DE)

Incoming recruits (20): Galloway (WR), Dirstine (OL), Shelmire (OL), Jones (ATH), Maitre (ATH), Davis (LB), DePalma (LB), Betro (DT), Stewart (LB), Langan (QB), Bennermon (DT), Sparacio (LB), Valecce (QB), Tessitore (K), DeNucci (LB), Gethers (CB), Bailey (RB), Luchetti (TE), Days (S), Vrabel (OL)

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:2017 redshirts
Burnt: AJD, Levy, Perry, Petrula, Rayam, McDuffie.
?: CJ Lewis, Stewart, Stoneburner
Preserved: everyone else.

According to the game participation chart Lewis played in 2 games, and Stewart and Stoneburner each 1. Also, Alec Lindstrom played in 1.

I don't know if it is accurate.

http://bceagles.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football

That is why I have them as questions marks but I did not see them play and the player participation is notoriously inaccurate (or has been in the past). Daz did say something about Lewis during the season.
Lindstrom played one snap in the first game. I have no idea how the rule works but pretty sure that his redshirt did not BURN.

Noa Merritt played in one game in 2015 (against Howard). Was he hurt? Or did we burn his redshirt like we did those of Perry and Lindstrom?

claver2010 {l Wrote}:believe flutie played in the end of the fenway game but point remains

i assume he was drunk

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:

claver2010 {l Wrote}:believe flutie played in the end of the fenway game but point remains

i assume he was drunk

Ugh Troy Flutie

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:2017 redshirts
Burnt: AJD, Levy, Perry, Petrula, Rayam, McDuffie.
?: CJ Lewis, Stewart, Stoneburner
Preserved: everyone else.

I guess the hope is with little lindstrom is he'll RS next year? With 7 lineman who have started a decent amount of games returning + several upperclassmen who haven't played depth shouldn't be an issue where we're forced to play at 260 lb OL

247 / eagleinsiders had an article about zach allen returning for his senior year. I didn't realize it was in question but they said early evaluations have him as a 2nd rounder in this years draft. seems like they deleted article & tweet.

claver2010 {l Wrote}:247 / eagleinsiders had an article about zach allen returning for his senior year. I didn't realize it was in question but they said early evaluations have him as a 2nd rounder in this years draft. seems like they deleted article & tweet.

No way is Allen a second rounder this year. He is too small to play interior in the NFL and not fast enough for a high pick DE.

Stoneburner transferring?

https://twitter.com/cstoneburner5/statu ... 8658417664
Looks like he is transferring to tOSU. Would have to think he's either giving up football or going to walk-on.

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:
True freshmen who may or may not have redshirted: A. Lindstrom (OL), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Lewis (WR),

With the pass thrown 10' over Lewis' head last night, we know that he did not redshirt.

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:
True freshmen who may or may not have redshirted: A. Lindstrom (OL), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Lewis (WR),

With the pass thrown 10' over Lewis' head last night, we know that he did not redshirt.

Obv neither did Lindstrom (who got called for a false start yesterday).

HJS {l Wrote}:https://twitter.com/cstoneburner5/status/941713468658417664
Looks like he is transferring to tOSU. Would have to think he's either giving up football or going to walk-on.

His girlfriend is cute, maybe he just wants to be closer to that piece of ass.

This was Stevens’, Conte’s and Cohee’s 4th year (all redshirted in 2014). Any reason why they would be back, besides depth?

hansen {l Wrote}:

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:

25GeraldRd {l Wrote}:
True freshmen who may or may not have redshirted: A. Lindstrom (OL), Stewart (DB), Stoneburner (WR), Lewis (WR),

With the pass thrown 10' over Lewis' head last night, we know that he did not redshirt.

Obv neither did Lindstrom (who got called for a false start yesterday).

Pretty sure that was #73 and the ref just got the number wrong.