Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

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Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:02 am

BC will not lose today! :cheer :elephant :flagus :angrychicken :D :koolaid :cheers :band :clink :clink :fam :party
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby commavegarage on Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:09 am

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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby bcshater on Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:16 am

We will not win either. With the way things are going I am not expecting wins. My 8-5 pre-season prediction is well, toast.

The game I am looking forward to today is Alabama vs. Miss. St.

A game my dad always enjoys watching is Amherst vs. Williams which is on NESN @ noon.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby Iggle on Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:52 am

BC will score at least as many points this week as they did against Wake Forest.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby angrychicken on Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:08 pm

Addazio will still find a way to screw up the clock.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby mod6A on Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:17 pm

Still some good apples on the trees out there.



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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby claver2010 on Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:28 pm

cuse putting up a fight against clemson, wtf

guess their fans aren't too interested in the #1 team in teh country?
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby HJS on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:26 pm

I've just got to say that the B12 and P12 do not play D... like at all. They have no business participating in the playoffs unless they are playing flag football.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eagle33 on Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:52 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:I've just got to say that the B12 and P12 do not play D... like at all. They have no business participating in the playoffs unless they are playing flag football.


Although it is fun to watch.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:57 am

addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:31 am

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.


That's kind of stupid. Do you really want to be throwing it more with Flutie and Fadule and Smith?
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:43 am

addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:47 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.


That's kind of stupid. Do you really want to be throwing it more with Flutie and Fadule and Smith?


Yes. I want them to do anything that scores points. This offense is effectively in the Stone Age. Looks nothing like the games that are on national tv in time slots that actually matter. While we know Daz will never do that, BC could be throwing more short passes or bubble screens to non-dudeck wide receivers. Anything to get defenses to stop loading up the box. his offense philosophy is so bad and so out of tune with modern college football that it is noticeable at the national level.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby claver2010 on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:00 am

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.


That's kind of stupid. Do you really want to be throwing it more with Flutie and Fadule and Smith?


i think the larger point is the numbers are biblically bad

you take out the fcs games, i'd be shocked if you could find a worst p5 offense in the last decade
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby 2001Eagle on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:20 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.


That's kind of stupid. Do you really want to be throwing it more with Flutie and Fadule and Smith?


i think the larger point is the numbers are biblically bad

you take out the fcs games, i'd be shocked if you could find a worst p5 offense in the last decade


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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby twballgame9 on Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:27 am

Epsteins point is throwing more would be worse. They should be running the correct type of offense.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby hansen on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:22 am

You don't need to throw the ball 60 times a game to win games.
College football coaches are for the most part lemmings except for the few elite coaches (urban Meyer, nick Saban etc.). The other 100+ coaches just emulate existing systems in a chance to ride their coat tails.

I actually think Daz's idea to play great defense and run the ball could be really effective with the right players/coaching.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby HJS on Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:16 pm

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.

Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby hansen on Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:55 pm

HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.

Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.


And won 45-20.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby claver2010 on Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:15 pm

that's our last month's worth of games

the last time we scored when it was at most a 2 possession game: jeff smith's td run over 9 quarters ago
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eagletx on Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:28 am

hansen {l Wrote}:You don't need to throw the ball 60 times a game to win games.
College football coaches are for the most part lemmings except for the few elite coaches (urban Meyer, nick Saban etc.). The other 100+ coaches just emulate existing systems in a chance to ride their coat tails.

I actually think Daz's idea to play great defense and run the ball could be really effective with the right players/coaching.

Agreed...except what is the alternative without the right players/coaching? And how long before it dawns on you that you don't have the right players, assuming there is nothing you will do mid season with the coaches?

It was pretty evident after week 4 that the OL was a train wreck that had to be "schemed" around. Every team starting with Maine loaded the box, and basically said you have to beat us on the perimeters or through the air. There was no attempt at any point to get creative, in fact, there was an obstinent insistence that BC was going to keep "hammering the rock" 'til it cracked. Clearly, the opposition was better adept at analyzing the tape and realizing what BC wasn't.

Whatever good will Addazio may have earned by tailoring to the talent capabilities he had in years one and two, he tossed out in year three. Now you might argue only that they were talentless on offense, and there was no alternatives that could have worked. Then, that invites another indictment of Addazio of a different kind, in year 3 of his tenure.

I accepted early on (before the season) that this was a rebuild year...I thought they'd win 5 games....What I didn't expect, and what I am most critical of was the continued mismanagement of the rebuild process this year...it appeared throughout the season that offensively they never got a handle on what they had (or more accurately, what they DIDN'T have) or what they were trying to do to set up for next year and beyond. The player carousel was the starkest evidence of that.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:38 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:that's our last month's worth of games

the last time we scored when it was at most a 2 possession game: jeff smith's td run over 9 quarters ago


Are you in the camp that wants to open it up and throw more?
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby claver2010 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:46 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:that's our last month's worth of games

the last time we scored when it was at most a 2 possession game: jeff smith's td run over 9 quarters ago


Are you in the camp that wants to open it up and throw more?


no

i'm in the 'the talent isn't great but not biblically bad and i blame the coaching for at best not maximizing it and at worst completely fucking it up'.

i'm also in the camp that was pro daz coming into the year but the constant excuses are as tired as roonie's posts
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby 2001Eagle on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:12 am

hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.

Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.


And won 45-20.


Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:27 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:no

i'm in the 'the talent isn't great but not biblically bad and i blame the coaching for at best not maximizing it and at worst completely fucking it up'.

i'm also in the camp that was pro daz coming into the year but the constant excuses are as tired as roonie's posts


Those are better camps than the throw it more camp.

I don't really know where the talent is that you refer to though. I don't say this snarkily. The RBs are all hurt. The Wrs can't do anything because no one can throw them the ball. I don't love seeing Dudek starting (or playing), but I have a really hard time viewing that as a difference maker because keeping Drew Barksdale and post injury Jackson off the field doesn't bother me very much. Billy Swigert's knee has been bothering him so his absence doesn't seem like a coaching issue to me. The coach's kid is bad, I don't think it's changed the record, but that seems like the wrong play to me Sweeney looks decent. I guess I also wish we'd seen more young OL almost right away, but I think playing the seniors made more sense before the Wade and Hiliman injuries.

I guess he also could have sacrificed Jeff Smith to the read option while Jim Cashman and Dave Bowen who never seemed to quite grasp power blocking try to learn a new scheme and run into one another, but I think that's more alternative reality of the fanbase.

The backup qb thing has been giant douche/turd sandwich all along IMO and I don't see the Flutie snaps as discernibly different from the Smith snaps. Fadule is slightly less turd-doucheian.

I have no idea why anyone ever listens to coach press conferences and even less so during a losing season. Is there anything good to say? Is there any coach who does it well? Everyone loved Jagz's pressers, but that's cause he was an arrogant dickhead while we were winning, which was fun. I guess I also have always thought of Addazio as coming across as kind of a retarded person, but one who resonated well with high school age recruits. I thought this in the first two seasons as well and therefore take most of what he says in that context. As an example "be a dude" does not resonate very well with me, but I can see it being more effective for the target audience.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:28 am

2001Eagle {l Wrote}:
hansen {l Wrote}:
HJS {l Wrote}:
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.

Nice touch on the bye week.

Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.


And won 45-20.


Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.


Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:38 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.

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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby commavegarage on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:46 am

i was never pro addaziani (CHECK THE LOGS)

but i became even more anti adaziani due to the qb situation.

that decision and his horrific game management is the difference between 3-7 and 5-5 right now, with the potential to get to a bowl w a cuse win
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:55 am

commavegarage {l Wrote}:i was never pro addaziani (CHECK THE LOGS)

but i became even more anti adaziani due to the qb situation.

that decision and his horrific game management is the difference between 3-7 and 5-5 right now, with the potential to get to a bowl w a cuse win


Can you be more specific as to which QB decision you blame for the difference of two wins? Do you mean: 1) playing two qbs at once (which was f'ing retarded); or 2) playing Flutie over Smith at all, which was much less so because they are both awful at this point although I can see Smith improving maybe; or 3) not figuring out the walk on was the best one, which I guess I can see also but I don't know whether it was possible to glean how bad Smith and Flutie are without seeing them in a game situation.
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Re: Official Byeday Thread - 11/14/15

Postby twballgame9 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:00 pm

I'm hardly on the "walkon was the best one bandwagon," after last game, as much as I want to root for him. The illusion of yardage with little chance to score.

He should have played Smith and not rotated. They should have run the plays they ran once Fadule got the job.

Once Smith got hurt, it didn't matter much.
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