by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:34 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'm hardly on the "walkon was the best one bandwagon," after last game, as much as I want to root for him. The illusion of yardage with little chance to score.
He should have played Smith and not rotated. They should have run the plays they ran once Fadule got the job.
Once Smith got hurt, it didn't matter much.
by 2001Eagle on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:34 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.
Nice touch on the bye week.
Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
And won 45-20.
Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
by twballgame9 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:38 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.
Nice touch on the bye week.
Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
And won 45-20.
Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
Teddy - do you want to watch BC run the flex bone? Really want to? My buddies who went to GT and who have season tickets get tired of that shit.
I know you won't give a real answer so let me just type your response here: "yes, if it's in the acc championship game."
by twballgame9 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:42 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'm hardly on the "walkon was the best one bandwagon," after last game, as much as I want to root for him. The illusion of yardage with little chance to score.
He should have played Smith and not rotated. They should have run the plays they ran once Fadule got the job.
Once Smith got hurt, it didn't matter much.
god, I thought I was going to have to post "SMITH IS AWFUL" in huge pink font with the marquee feature.
by hansen on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:20 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.
Nice touch on the bye week.
Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
And won 45-20.
Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
Teddy - do you want to watch BC run the flex bone? Really want to? My buddies who went to GT and who have season tickets get tired of that shit.
I know you won't give a real answer so let me just type your response here: "yes, if it's in the acc championship game."
by commavegarage on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:23 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:i was never pro addaziani (CHECK THE LOGS)
but i became even more anti adaziani due to the qb situation.
that decision and his horrific game management is the difference between 3-7 and 5-5 right now, with the potential to get to a bowl w a cuse win
Can you be more specific as to which QB decision you blame for the difference of two wins? Do you mean: 1) playing two qbs at once (which was f'ing retarded); or 2) playing Flutie over Smith at all, which was much less so because they are both awful at this point although I can see Smith improving maybe; or 3) not figuring out the walk on was the best one, which I guess I can see also but I don't know whether it was possible to glean how bad Smith and Flutie are without seeing them in a game situation.
by claver2010 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:37 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:Those are better camps than the throw it more camp.
I don't really know where the talent is that you refer to though. I don't say this snarkily. The RBs are all hurt. The Wrs can't do anything because no one can throw them the ball. I don't love seeing Dudek starting (or playing), but I have a really hard time viewing that as a difference maker because keeping Drew Barksdale and post injury Jackson off the field doesn't bother me very much. Billy Swigert's knee has been bothering him so his absence doesn't seem like a coaching issue to me. The coach's kid is bad, I don't think it's changed the record, but that seems like the wrong play to me Sweeney looks decent. I guess I also wish we'd seen more young OL almost right away, but I think playing the seniors made more sense before the Wade and Hiliman injuries.
I guess he also could have sacrificed Jeff Smith to the read option while Jim Cashman and Dave Bowen who never seemed to quite grasp power blocking try to learn a new scheme and run into one another, but I think that's more alternative reality of the fanbase.
The backup qb thing has been giant douche/turd sandwich all along IMO and I don't see the Flutie snaps as discernibly different from the Smith snaps. Fadule is slightly less turd-doucheian.
I have no idea why anyone ever listens to coach press conferences and even less so during a losing season. Is there anything good to say? Is there any coach who does it well? Everyone loved Jagz's pressers, but that's cause he was an arrogant dickhead while we were winning, which was fun. I guess I also have always thought of Addazio as coming across as kind of a retarded person, but one who resonated well with high school age recruits. I thought this in the first two seasons as well and therefore take most of what he says in that context. As an example "be a dude" does not resonate very well with me, but I can see it being more effective for the target audience.
BUT
by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:39 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:I'm hardly on the "walkon was the best one bandwagon," after last game, as much as I want to root for him. The illusion of yardage with little chance to score.
He should have played Smith and not rotated. They should have run the plays they ran once Fadule got the job.
Once Smith got hurt, it didn't matter much.
god, I thought I was going to have to post "SMITH IS AWFUL" in huge pink font with the marquee feature.
My bad, thought you were asking an agenda-free question. Fooled me.
by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:00 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:eagle9903 {l Wrote}:commavegarage {l Wrote}:i was never pro addaziani (CHECK THE LOGS)
but i became even more anti adaziani due to the qb situation.
that decision and his horrific game management is the difference between 3-7 and 5-5 right now, with the potential to get to a bowl w a cuse win
Can you be more specific as to which QB decision you blame for the difference of two wins? Do you mean: 1) playing two qbs at once (which was f'ing retarded); or 2) playing Flutie over Smith at all, which was much less so because they are both awful at this point although I can see Smith improving maybe; or 3) not figuring out the walk on was the best one, which I guess I can see also but I don't know whether it was possible to glean how bad Smith and Flutie are without seeing them in a game situation.
playing 2 qbs at once.
directly killed us in the wake game.
in game coaching was mainly to blame in the duke game in my opinion
i dont really think there is a significant discernible difference between fadule and doug. i thought running a spread style running attack with smith had the chance to be decent // better than this
i do very much believe theres a lot to be said for giving the team the opportunity to practice with one qb all week and install a gameplan that is strategic to his particular skill set.
by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:54 pm
claver2010 {l Wrote}:All fair (assuming you're not snarking me), if so oh well.
My main focus is pre Clemson ish because Clemson and beyond who really gives a fuck? If they weren't scoring Duke & Wake they probably weren't going to do much beyond that. Also this is with all the caveat that I don't know on injuries.
Talent:
I think the talent exceeds 8 points per game versus NIU, Duke & Wake
Coaching:
Wake:
There was absolutely no rhyme or reason for the QB rotation within game. Sub Flutie in mid drive, he spends 30 seconds coordinating with his OL unaware that there's actually a playclock. TO burned. Probably would've been important towards the end of the game.
3rd & 1 bring Flutie in after Smith drives them down the field for a QB sneak.
Play calling is the easy
You clearly have a QB with limited (developing?) skill set. Why are you throwing 9 million formations at them? Jeff Smith under center, in the pistol, in the shotgun. He play HS exclusively in gun.
3rd & 4th down on last drive of Duke game. Need what 4 yards? Jeff has been running at 5 YPC. 3rd down quick out to Dudeck (?) incomplete. 4th down under center roll to Smith's left. It was as if Fitch didn't realize Flutie was knocked out.
I guess it goes back to an OL being good as coaching vs talent. SR-SR-SO-FR-JR isn't an incredibly young line (vs. wake depth chart).
Edit: re the pressers. I guess it's just one of my things. Shit i even listened to jimmy mac after saturday.
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:58 pm
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:I think its unreasonable to expect this guy to innovate too much.
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:... micro.
by 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:48 am
hansen {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.
Nice touch on the bye week.
Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
And won 45-20.
Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
Teddy - do you want to watch BC run the flex bone? Really want to? My buddies who went to GT and who have season tickets get tired of that shit.
I know you won't give a real answer so let me just type your response here: "yes, if it's in the acc championship game."
I don't care what offense we run if we are consistently challenging for ACC titles. Who gives a shit if it's "boring"?
Fucking millennials and their need for high scoring games to keep themselves entertained.
by hansen on Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:38 am
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:hansen {l Wrote}:HJS {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:addazio getting killed on Twitter by the EDSBS guys for BC having 76 punts and only 215 passes attempted.
Nice touch on the bye week.
Against Memphis last week, USNA had 4 punts and only 5 pass attempts.
And won 45-20.
Yup. We should aspire to run navy's offense. Good call.
Yes, because Navy's offense has never carried a team to the ACC Championship Game.
Teddy - do you want to watch BC run the flex bone? Really want to? My buddies who went to GT and who have season tickets get tired of that shit.
I know you won't give a real answer so let me just type your response here: "yes, if it's in the acc championship game."
I don't care what offense we run if we are consistently challenging for ACC titles. Who gives a shit if it's "boring"?
Fucking millennials and their need for high scoring games to keep themselves entertained.
Not a millennial.
Go suck your mother's cock.*
*is this a thing now? If not, then go fuck yourself.
by twballgame9 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:42 am
by hansen on Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:48 am
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:hansen you are mixing millennials with nerdification. They are not synonymous
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:23 pm
by 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:11 pm
hansen {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:hansen you are mixing millennials with nerdification. They are not synonymous
Eerily, they are not far apart.
If he graduated in 2001, then he was probably born in 1979 and millennials start at 1980-1982.
So nerdification was construction of the mod fence which was around 2001 or so as well.
We've been thinking BC constructed the mod fence to keep people from having fun. Maybe they just wanted to keep the nerds out as they knew the millenial generation was coming.
PROTECT THIS HOUSE THESE MODS
by Dick Rosenthal on Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:31 pm
by gallopingghost on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:47 pm
by 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:50 pm
by claver2010 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:50 pm
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:Daz needs to dig deep into his trickeration playbook. Let it loose with the fumblerooksi, statue of liberty, double reverse flea flickers, fake punts, fake field goals, onside kicks etc...you name it, why not?
If it is 4th down on the ND 35 yd line and he does not think our field goal kickers are up to the task, doesn't it make more sense to go for the fake rather than the punt? A punt gets you what, 20 yards maybe?
by angrychicken on Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:57 pm
gallopingghost {l Wrote}:Daz needs to dig deep into his trickeration playbook. Let it loose with the fumblerooksi, statue of liberty, double reverse flea flickers, fake punts, fake field goals, onside kicks etc...you name it, why not?
If it is 4th down on the ND 35 yd line and he does not think our field goal kickers are up to the task, doesn't it make more sense to go for the fake rather than the punt? A punt gets you what, 20 yards maybe?
by twballgame9 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:00 pm
by hansen on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:16 pm
2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Prediction:
6 punts
<300 total yards
3 turnovers
by 2001Eagle on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:33 pm
hansen {l Wrote}:2001Eagle {l Wrote}:Prediction:
6 punts
<300 total yards
3 turnovers
But how many passes? Asking for a friend.
by commavegarage on Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:46 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's not pulling out stops. If anything, he'll be more conservative in his efforts to lose close in the fourth.
by DavidGordonsFoot on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:00 pm
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's not pulling out stops. If anything, he'll be more conservative in his efforts to lose close in the fourth.
by eepstein0 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:16 pm
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's not pulling out stops. If anything, he'll be more conservative in his efforts to lose close in the fourth.
this. i could even see him punting on 3rd down under the right circumstances.
by flyingelvii on Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:34 pm
by 31southst on Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:03 pm
commavegarage {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:He's not pulling out stops. If anything, he'll be more conservative in his efforts to lose close in the fourth.
agreed
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