by claver2010 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:06 am
by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:39 am
claver2010 {l Wrote}:1) what a terrible team, they almost lost to uconn
b) what a terrible program, recently produced some excellent members of society
that being said, they cancelled practice yesterday. anyone think they'll actually go through with not playing on saturday?
btw excellent timing by mizzou
https://www.themizzoustore.com/p-195747 ... shirt.aspx
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us
by DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:40 am
by DomingoOrtiz on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:43 am
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:Serious question - What has this UM System President done (or failed to do) that warrants termination? I've spent maybe ten minutes reading articles about this story and I can't find the smoking gun.
by eepstein0 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:46 am
by BCSUPERFAN22 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:52 am
by DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:52 am
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:If BC made up a fake protest to not play the rest of this season I would be in 100% support.
by DomingoOrtiz on Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:52 am
by gallopingghost on Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:53 am
by HJS on Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:28 am
by claver2010 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:19 pm
by DavidGordonsFoot on Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:50 pm
claver2010 {l Wrote}:http://www.kmbc.com/blob/view/-/36332870/data/1/-/202nsaz/-/-PDF-Concerned-Student-1950-list-of-demands.pdf
by OCs_Inner_Eagle on Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:47 pm
NBA All-Star ultimatum paid off for players
Jerry West, Elgin Baylor and other NBA big names threatened not to play in the 1964 game, and it led to a pension and recognition of the union.
February 16, 2011|By Mike Bresnahan
The NBA was about to go live on television in 1964 for one of the first times, a major opportunity for a struggling league, when the game's top talent threatened to back out of the All-Star game a few hours before tip-off.
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The players wanted a pension. They wanted athletic trainers on every team. They wanted improved playing conditions — no more Sunday afternoon games after a Saturday night game.
The players had tried to tell Commissioner Walter Kennedy that they were serious at a meeting several months earlier.
"We brought in our reps," said former Boston Celtics All-Star Tom Heinsohn, "and they kept us in the lobby and never brought us upstairs."
The owners were definitely listening now.
Lakers star Jerry West, then 25 and in his fourth season, stood his ground with Baylor.
"I was young and just trying to feel my way along and build a career for myself," West said. "[Short] said to us very threateningly, 'If you don't play in this game, you're probably never going to play again.' I then said, 'I'm never going to play a game.' I am pretty defiant."
The minutes moved rapidly inside the locker room. Tipoff time was approaching. A chance at major TV exposure was evaporating quickly.
Finally, Kennedy made a decision. The commissioner met the demands of the players, who were overjoyed.
"He formally recognized the players' association and agreed to the pension plan and all the other things," Heinsohn said.
by eagle9903 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:16 pm
OCs_Inner_Eagle {l Wrote}:This is a really big deal. The players organized collectively, in this case to fight a perceived racist culture at the University of Missouri. They held together in the face of their own fears that they'd be ineffectual and would suffer retribution (which may still come). They wound up seeing essentially their line supervisors (the coaches) bet on them rather than the administration.
All that put the the University into position of facing breach of a contract exceeding $1 million (the BYU game), over an employee who makes <$500k per annum. Mizzou's version of a Board of Directors was to meet just hours after the resignation came in. Obviously the President was told to go away so that this whole embarrassment would go away.
If I'm the NCAA, ESPN/CBS/Fox, Saban/Calipari/Coach K, etc., I'd be really concerned right now. What lessons will athletes elsewhere take from this? There's been a dispute in legal terms about whether the athletes are employees. But can athletes organize and stay united so that they have an economic impact?
That depends on timing. If they play "by the rules" and fight in court, they'll lose because the NCAA (and their sponsors) will wait out the players and find a friendlier venue.
But Tom Heinsohn and the NBA all-stars didn't play by the rules.NBA All-Star ultimatum paid off for players
Jerry West, Elgin Baylor and other NBA big names threatened not to play in the 1964 game, and it led to a pension and recognition of the union.
February 16, 2011|By Mike Bresnahan
Tom Heinsohn was President of the unrecognized NBA Players' Association:The NBA was about to go live on television in 1964 for one of the first times, a major opportunity for a struggling league, when the game's top talent threatened to back out of the All-Star game a few hours before tip-off.
...
The players wanted a pension. They wanted athletic trainers on every team. They wanted improved playing conditions — no more Sunday afternoon games after a Saturday night game.
The players had tried to tell Commissioner Walter Kennedy that they were serious at a meeting several months earlier.
"We brought in our reps," said former Boston Celtics All-Star Tom Heinsohn, "and they kept us in the lobby and never brought us upstairs."
The owners were definitely listening now.
The owners threatened retribution far harsher than what has been discussed in the wake of the Missouri situation:Lakers star Jerry West, then 25 and in his fourth season, stood his ground with Baylor.
"I was young and just trying to feel my way along and build a career for myself," West said. "[Short] said to us very threateningly, 'If you don't play in this game, you're probably never going to play again.' I then said, 'I'm never going to play a game.' I am pretty defiant."
Finally, the game went on:The minutes moved rapidly inside the locker room. Tipoff time was approaching. A chance at major TV exposure was evaporating quickly.
Finally, Kennedy made a decision. The commissioner met the demands of the players, who were overjoyed.
"He formally recognized the players' association and agreed to the pension plan and all the other things," Heinsohn said.
Who's to say this doesn't happen again? Before the College Football playoff final? Before the NCAA Final Four? How does the NCAA explain dead air time during what is supposed to be a hugely profitable night?
The athletes at Missouri hung in, and they won. If they could stand united on a more amorphous goal like fighting racism, how about when they stand to gain a piece of the pie they baked?
by Dick Rosenthal on Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:34 pm
by Corporal Funishment on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:06 pm
Dick Rosenthal {l Wrote}:There is something delightful in watching an effete liberal--which the pathetic Mizzoo President undoubtedly is--get devoured by the irrational, stupid, BLM/SJW set. They are going to kill off Hillary before they are done.
In this instance the following cannot be disputed. The "hunger striker" is a professional grievance monger whose underlying motivation was that he lost his cheap graduate housing. The Student Body President--who is black which sort of casts some doubt on the notion that there is an institutional problem at Mizzou--is an oily, lying sleazebag whose story cannot be corroborated by anyone. Gary Pinkell is an abortion of a coach and sleazy piece of shit. Missouri is really bad at football--not as bad as us, perhaps, but really fucking terrible--and its players are criminals, illiterates and sexual degenerates.
In a just world, all 30 of the strikers would lose their scholarships and be returned to whatever hell hole they crawled out of where, statistically speaking, they would soon kill each other off.
by ATLeagle on Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:35 pm
by eepstein0 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:22 pm
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't know much about Mizzou's culture and remember when some racial things went on at BC in the '90s. If there was social media then, it probably would have become a bigger deal. That said, the odds that this University President was some sort of racist or that he had real power to change the culture is ridiculous. The only demand he could have met was the 10% African American faculty quota.
by TobaccoRoadEagle on Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:30 pm
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't know much about Mizzou's culture and remember when some racial things went on at BC in the '90s. If there was social media then, it probably would have become a bigger deal. That said, the odds that this University President was some sort of racist or that he had real power to change the culture is ridiculous. The only demand he could have met was the 10% African American faculty quota.
Why are we having quotas by race?
Is this more Chad and less Thadd?
by OCs_Inner_Eagle on Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:32 pm
Background
Mr. Timothy M. Wolfe serves as the President of University of Missouri System. Mr. Wolfe has 27 years of IT and software sales experience. Mr. Wolfe served as the President for Novell Americas of Novell Inc. He served as an Executive Vice President of CSC Covansys Corporation. He served as General Manager for Americas at Novell, Inc. He joined Novell in 2003 as Vice President and General Manager of the Southeast region, moving to oversee the East region in 2006. Prior to joining Novell, he served as an Executive Vice President of Covansys Corp. Mr. Wolfe served as Vice President of Sales of Jostens Inc., since October 2003. He held a variety of sales executive and management roles during his 20-year tenure at IBM. Mr. Wolfe earned a Bachelor's degree from the University of Missouri Business School and graduated from Harvard's Advanced Management Program and International Senior Management Program 148.
by tallsy on Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:41 pm
by BCMurt09 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:46 pm
by eepstein0 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:50 pm
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't know much about Mizzou's culture and remember when some racial things went on at BC in the '90s. If there was social media then, it probably would have become a bigger deal. That said, the odds that this University President was some sort of racist or that he had real power to change the culture is ridiculous. The only demand he could have met was the 10% African American faculty quota.
Why are we having quotas by race?
Is this more Chad and less Thadd?
blog boy is saying that all their other demands for unicorns and rainbows were things that the university president couldn't have changed even if he wanted to. the only thing he had control over was the 10% faculty quota. the rest of the demands were ows type bullshit
by hansen on Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:39 pm
by Reverend Mike on Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:03 pm
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't know much about Mizzou's culture and remember when some racial things went on at BC in the '90s. If there was social media then, it probably would have become a bigger deal. That said, the odds that this University President was some sort of racist or that he had real power to change the culture is ridiculous. The only demand he could have met was the 10% African American faculty quota.
Why are we having quotas by race?
Is this more Chad and less Thadd?
blog boy is saying that all their other demands for unicorns and rainbows were things that the university president couldn't have changed even if he wanted to. the only thing he had control over was the 10% faculty quota. the rest of the demands were ows type bullshit
If I go on a hunger strike can we stop playing Dudeck and Callahan? Maybe I'll aim high and we can settle on that.
by HJS on Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:42 pm
by Eaglekeeper on Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:50 pm
by eepstein0 on Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:42 am
Reverend Mike {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:eepstein0 {l Wrote}:ATLeagle {l Wrote}:I don't know much about Mizzou's culture and remember when some racial things went on at BC in the '90s. If there was social media then, it probably would have become a bigger deal. That said, the odds that this University President was some sort of racist or that he had real power to change the culture is ridiculous. The only demand he could have met was the 10% African American faculty quota.
Why are we having quotas by race?
Is this more Chad and less Thadd?
blog boy is saying that all their other demands for unicorns and rainbows were things that the university president couldn't have changed even if he wanted to. the only thing he had control over was the 10% faculty quota. the rest of the demands were ows type bullshit
If I go on a hunger strike can we stop playing Dudeck and Callahan? Maybe I'll aim high and we can settle on that.
I don't care enough about this team to skip a meal.
The "racial things" in the 90's that ATL refers to could not have been more contrived with an electrified contriving machine. It was some of the worst protesting I've seen. It was completely incoherent with scattershot demands and poorly-defined goals. People didn't know whether to support the protestors or heckle them because nobody knew what the hell they wanted. It fizzled out in 1996 due to boredom and indifference.
by mod6A on Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:15 pm
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