janebc {l Wrote}:1) Harris
2) Luke
it's crazy that you have shinski on that list
rktbrkr {l Wrote}:it's crazy that you have shinski on that list
I'm not saying Shinski's the best player on the team, just in consideration for most valuable because of the position he plays. He's had some bad games, just like Harris, but he has come along pretty quickly and the team is stronger at QB than last year. If we were talking about best player we'd have to add Costanzo and Tennent.
Agreed Claiborne got the team a little fired up.
janebc {l Wrote}:1) Harris
2) Luke
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Quigley has been the best and most consistent player in the team this year, I'd say Kuechly second. Montel has has a couple of really rough days, and in two games he could have salted away, he ran out of bounds against Wake and fumbled against ND.
rktbrkr {l Wrote}:Still some important games to go but here are the leaders IMO
Luke
Gunnell
Harris
Shinski
Luke's numbers have been out of sight, now he's added a pick6. The offensive players have had up and down games, with some VERY down games for the offense.
Uncle Dave's had a couple "F" games but he's also had some "B"s and I think overall the QBing has been better year than last.
Looking back on the season so far with all the injuries and illness I think BC might have won the ND game with Herzy on the field. Hopefully he'll be back in good heath and full strength to team with Boy Wonder for an out of sight LB corps. It would be nice if a passrush developed magically!
BCWest {l Wrote}:rktbrkr {l Wrote}:Still some important games to go but here are the leaders IMO
Luke
Gunnell
Harris
Shinski
Luke's numbers have been out of sight, now he's added a pick6. The offensive players have had up and down games, with some VERY down games for the offense.
Uncle Dave's had a couple "F" games but he's also had some "B"s and I think overall the QBing has been better year than last.
Looking back on the season so far with all the injuries and illness I think BC might have won the ND game with Herzy on the field. Hopefully he'll be back in good heath and full strength to team with Boy Wonder for an out of sight LB corps. It would be nice if a passrush developed magically!
Shinskie is not top 5.
Luke and Harris are deserving and clearly the MVPs on each side of the ball.
BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Eagledom {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Gunell is the offensive MVP followed by Harris and Shinskie, Larmond is a great weapon but has a long way to go as a WR as far as drops, running routes, etc. The Oline has been AWESOME against bad teams and HORRIBLE against good teams.
On D, its Keuchly, without a question. The Dline sucks, and Gause sucks, but the LBs and other Dbacks have been great.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:rktbrkr {l Wrote}:it's crazy that you have shinski on that list
I'm not saying Shinski's the best player on the team, just in consideration for most valuable because of the position he plays. He's had some bad games, just like Harris, but he has come along pretty quickly and the team is stronger at QB than last year. If we were talking about best player we'd have to add Costanzo and Tennent.
Agreed Claiborne got the team a little fired up.
Tennant does lead the team in stupid personal fouls, with McLaughlin a close second.
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:Rich Gunnell is the MVP. It isn't even close.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Gunell is the offensive MVP followed by Harris and Shinskie, Larmond is a great weapon but has a long way to go as a WR as far as drops, running routes, etc. The Oline has been AWESOME against bad teams and HORRIBLE against good teams.
On D, its Keuchly, without a question. The Dline sucks, and Gause sucks, but the LBs and other Dbacks have been great.
Not sure what you have been watching, but Gunnell has as many drops as Larmond. Larmond is usually the wide open guy watching the ball sail 20 feet over his head, in case you get him confused.
Larmond is a superstar waiting for a QB. He is always open. ALWAYS. I think Rich Gunnell is awesome, but he isn't half as talented as Larmond. Larmond is the first legit NFL WR I have seen at BC since Kelvin Martin.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Gunell is the offensive MVP followed by Harris and Shinskie, Larmond is a great weapon but has a long way to go as a WR as far as drops, running routes, etc. The Oline has been AWESOME against bad teams and HORRIBLE against good teams.
On D, its Keuchly, without a question. The Dline sucks, and Gause sucks, but the LBs and other Dbacks have been great.
Not sure what you have been watching, but Gunnell has as many drops as Larmond. Larmond is usually the wide open guy watching the ball sail 20 feet over his head, in case you get him confused.
Larmond is a superstar waiting for a QB. He is always open. ALWAYS. I think Rich Gunnell is awesome, but he isn't half as talented as Larmond. Larmond is the first legit NFL WR I have seen at BC since Kelvin Martin.
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Gunell is the offensive MVP followed by Harris and Shinskie, Larmond is a great weapon but has a long way to go as a WR as far as drops, running routes, etc. The Oline has been AWESOME against bad teams and HORRIBLE against good teams.
On D, its Keuchly, without a question. The Dline sucks, and Gause sucks, but the LBs and other Dbacks have been great.
Not sure what you have been watching, but Gunnell has as many drops as Larmond. Larmond is usually the wide open guy watching the ball sail 20 feet over his head, in case you get him confused.
Larmond is a superstar waiting for a QB. He is always open. ALWAYS. I think Rich Gunnell is awesome, but he isn't half as talented as Larmond. Larmond is the first legit NFL WR I have seen at BC since Kelvin Martin.
EIConvert {l Wrote}:twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Eagledom {l Wrote}:BC923 {l Wrote}:I was worried at the beginning of the season when Gunnell wasn't doing much but he has really come on lately. That being said Harris is offensive MVP. Luke is the clear defensive MVP although both safeties deserve mention. Quigley has been amazing and is the special teams MVP. After watching BC games and then NFL games, Quigley outpunts some of the punters in the NFL.
Gunell is the offensive MVP followed by Harris and Shinskie, Larmond is a great weapon but has a long way to go as a WR as far as drops, running routes, etc. The Oline has been AWESOME against bad teams and HORRIBLE against good teams.
On D, its Keuchly, without a question. The Dline sucks, and Gause sucks, but the LBs and other Dbacks have been great.
Not sure what you have been watching, but Gunnell has as many drops as Larmond. Larmond is usually the wide open guy watching the ball sail 20 feet over his head, in case you get him confused.
Larmond is a superstar waiting for a QB. He is always open. ALWAYS. I think Rich Gunnell is awesome, but he isn't half as talented as Larmond. Larmond is the first legit NFL WR I have seen at BC since Kelvin Martin.
Larmond has real talent. That said, there's no excuses for him quitting on several balls this year
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