RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

by **ILikeBC** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:08 pm

Ok. Have at it. Who should get the carries and why.

I want Myles #1. Healthy veteran leading the charge, and has shown promise this year on the ground.

(Kill me for saying this) Rouse #2. But only on edge runs. I don't think he can hit the hole as well as Myles, but I do think he breaks it outside very well.

Outlow #3. Or just put him in the slot where he's a boss.

Dudeck #4 (jk)

Anyways, if we can get by with Myles taking 45%, Rouse taking 35%, and Outlow taking 20%, I'd be very happy.

by **twballgame9** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:20 pm

Outlow.

by **MF73-Eleazar** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:20 pm

I think Wilson should get some carries too. He's a big kid, maybe he can do a good enough job with limited carries and Wolford or an H-back/TE blocking for him.

by **eagle9903** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:25 pm

I think we see Wilson getting a bunch of carries.

by **StratEagle** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:26 pm

Willis on the inevitable first down dives, Outlow on everything else

by **dtwalrus** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:47 pm

The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

by **StratEagle** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:50 pm

dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

by **twballgame9** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:52 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

Wait until he explains how Dudeck is his favorite receiver.

by **Oliver Closeoff** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:56 pm

Willis and Outlow should get the bulk of the carries, and call me crazy but this might be a good thing since both have more wiggle than Hilliman. Hilliman does much better with a decent OL which should happen sometime next year. :pepper2

by **StratEagle** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:03 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
StratEagle {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

Wait until he explains how Dudeck is his favorite receiver.

We laugh, but our coach's thoughts are not far off from this

by **DuxEagle26** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:11 pm

Fitch has literally said outright that rouse is the least talented of the four, but must get carries due to his work ethic. Not sure why we are running a pop warner style everybody plays rotation system, but it is time for Willis to get the workload that he deserves. Outlow on third downs, willis or alston in the backfield any other time.

by **BCSUPERFAN22** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:15 pm

DuxEagle26 {l Wrote}:Fitch has literally said outright that rouse is the least talented of the four, but must get carries due to his work ethic. Not sure why we are running a pop warner style everybody plays rotation system, but it is time for Willis to get the workload that he deserves. Outlow on third downs, willis or alston in the backfield any other time.

I dont have a problem with Rouse getting touches, but he should be behind Willis and Outlow. Willis/Outlow have very similar running styles so Rouse can provide a nice change of pace, but he is clearly towards the back of the pack talent wise.

by **dtwalrus** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:27 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

Flutie, Rouse...and Obama. I have a lot of friends around here.

Seriously though, Rouse clearly isn't #1, but he has value. He's stout and strong and can take a hit.

by **claver2010** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:35 pm

StratEagle {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

As wrong as he is about Flutie, Rouse deserve some touches.

by **MilitantEagle** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:38 pm

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
StratEagle {l Wrote}:
dtwalrus {l Wrote}:The one thing I like about Rouse is he seems the most able to get yards after contact. Considering the holes our line is opening aren't exactly giant, I think that's important.

Seriously? Flutie AND Rouse? You could be the next Matt Millen, Walrus

As wrong as he is about Flutie, Rouse deserve some touches.

I like the way Rouse hits the hole. He's a good change of pace and it almost seems like the defense isn't ready for that burst (or they're tired).

by **twballgame9** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:39 pm

Rouse is more than fine in a limited role. He's just not the "pass catching back" that they tried to sell to us last year to cover for Clemson, and he is limited as a runner. But he is a hard runner and he does seem to make the most of the holes, which is key when they aren't very big.

EDIT - nevermind, what Militant said ^^^

by **eepstein0** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:37 pm

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Rouse is more than fine in a limited role. He's just not the "pass catching back" that they tried to sell to us last year to cover for Clemson, and he is limited as a runner. But he is a hard runner and he does seem to make the most of the holes, which is key when they aren't very big.

EDIT - nevermind, what Militant said ^^^

Rouse is a good player. My problem is when he plays ahead of Outlaw or Willis.

by **durkcal** on Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:26 pm

Willis 55%
Rouse 30%
Outlow 15%

Outlow moves to #1 TB on passing downs.

by **garf112** on Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:37 pm

Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

by **dtwalrus** on Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:58 pm

Wait, so was I vindicated in this thread? Victory!

by **claver2010** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:32 am

garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit :shrug

by **Buttercup** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:34 am

Willis is still not himself due to recovering from mono. He's questionable for tomorrow according to TOS. If he does play, it's probably out of necessity and I wouldn't ask too much from him at this point.

by **eagle9903** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:51 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

Hilliaman wasn't very "2012 Andre Williams" in the NIU game. He was more "2014 Jon Hilliman"

by **twballgame9** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:25 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

by **claver2010** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:36 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

eh they're different backs, granted this is all small sample

could outlow withstand 6 of 7 weeks carrying the ball 20+ times? again, should he be carrying the ball 20 times / game when we have the stable of backs that we do? i don't know, maybe i can run the stats on him 'getting better with more carries', anecdotally i have no idea.
we've seen outlow's elusiveness but reality is he's had 59 carries in 2 years against non fbs teams.

but i really like them both and we'll see what outlow can do over the next 3 months. honestly interested to see what willis can do, always thought he deserved more touches as well, as soon as he's healthy

edit: hilliman's splits

2014
1st half: 104-485-8 --4.7
2nd half: 106-375-5 --3.5

2015
1st half: 32-121-1 --3.8
2nd half: 19-77-1 --4.1

by **eagle9903** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:41 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

eh they're different backs, granted this is all small sample

could outlow withstand 6 of 7 weeks carrying the ball 20+ times? again, should he be carrying the ball 20 times / game when we have the stable of backs that we do? i don't know, maybe i can run the stats on him 'getting better with more carries', anecdotally i have no idea.
we've seen outlow's elusiveness but reality is he's had 59 carries in 2 years against non fbs teams.

but i really like them both and we'll see what outlow can do over the next 3 months. honestly interested to see what willis can do, always thought he deserved more touches as well, as soon as he's healthy

If you don't dismiss the game plan from the get go, you want the straight ahead guy to go first and wear down the defense and then have the shifty guy make them miss once they're tired for big plays. I suspect Rouse or Gowins or Wilson will be the 1st and 2nd down run guy to start the Duke game. In the spirit of Davis v. Crane, I want to see Gowins or Wilson.

by **twballgame9** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:47 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

eh they're different backs, granted this is all small sample

could outlow withstand 6 of 7 weeks carrying the ball 20+ times? again, should he be carrying the ball 20 times / game when we have the stable of backs that we do? i don't know, maybe i can run the stats on him 'getting better with more carries', anecdotally i have no idea.
we've seen outlow's elusiveness but reality is he's had 59 carries in 2 years against non fbs teams.

but i really like them both and we'll see what outlow can do over the next 3 months. honestly interested to see what willis can do, always thought he deserved more touches as well, as soon as he's healthy

If you don't dismiss the game plan from the get go, you want the straight ahead guy to go first and wear down the defense and then have the shifty guy make them miss once they're tired for big plays. I suspect Rouse or Gowins or Wilson will be the 1st and 2nd down run guy to start the Duke game. In the spirit of Davis v. Crane, I want to see Gowins or Wilson.

I don't have a problem with this, but Outlow is bigger than people think. He's 5'10'', 200lbs. He can be an every down back, he's just not a bruiser.

by **eagle9903** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:49 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

eh they're different backs, granted this is all small sample

could outlow withstand 6 of 7 weeks carrying the ball 20+ times? again, should he be carrying the ball 20 times / game when we have the stable of backs that we do? i don't know, maybe i can run the stats on him 'getting better with more carries', anecdotally i have no idea.
we've seen outlow's elusiveness but reality is he's had 59 carries in 2 years against non fbs teams.

but i really like them both and we'll see what outlow can do over the next 3 months. honestly interested to see what willis can do, always thought he deserved more touches as well, as soon as he's healthy

If you don't dismiss the game plan from the get go, you want the straight ahead guy to go first and wear down the defense and then have the shifty guy make them miss once they're tired for big plays. I suspect Rouse or Gowins or Wilson will be the 1st and 2nd down run guy to start the Duke game. In the spirit of Davis v. Crane, I want to see Gowins or Wilson.

I don't have a problem with this, but Outlow is bigger than people think. He's 5'10'', 200lbs. He can be an every down back, he's just not a bruiser.

I agree he can be an every down back but I don't think he gives the theoretical benefit of softening the middle of the defense by running into them a million times.

by **twballgame9** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:54 am

eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
eagle9903 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
garf112 {l Wrote}:Outlow
Willis
Rouse

But Rouse will probably get more carries than Willis due to the injury there.

Outlow is our best back. Hilliman was very 2012 Andre Williams before he got hurt, hesitant hitting holes, etc. Outlow can do a little of everything and will be a good complement to Flutie or Smith

re hilliman: it would help if there were holes to hit

I actually agree that Outlow is the best back, but yes, Hilliman suffers by playing with a QB that can't run or throw hard enough to get the ball outside the hashes.

eh they're different backs, granted this is all small sample

could outlow withstand 6 of 7 weeks carrying the ball 20+ times? again, should he be carrying the ball 20 times / game when we have the stable of backs that we do? i don't know, maybe i can run the stats on him 'getting better with more carries', anecdotally i have no idea.
we've seen outlow's elusiveness but reality is he's had 59 carries in 2 years against non fbs teams.

but i really like them both and we'll see what outlow can do over the next 3 months. honestly interested to see what willis can do, always thought he deserved more touches as well, as soon as he's healthy

If you don't dismiss the game plan from the get go, you want the straight ahead guy to go first and wear down the defense and then have the shifty guy make them miss once they're tired for big plays. I suspect Rouse or Gowins or Wilson will be the 1st and 2nd down run guy to start the Duke game. In the spirit of Davis v. Crane, I want to see Gowins or Wilson.

I don't have a problem with this, but Outlow is bigger than people think. He's 5'10'', 200lbs. He can be an every down back, he's just not a bruiser.

I agree he can be an every down back but I don't think he gives the theoretical benefit of softening the middle of the defense by running into them a million times.

Agreed, especially with the word "theoretical"

by **MF73-Eleazar** on Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:07 pm

Wilson's bigger than Gowins and Outlow, while Gowins' weight is almost the same as Hilliman's last yr.

Hope we just pound the rock with Outlow/Gowins/Rouse/Wilson. To hell with throwing the ball.

RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Re: RB Carry Distribution Thread (After #32 Injury)

Who is online