2016 Recruiting Thread

[2001Eagle]

I can't imagine that this is helping.

http://www.sportsdaynow.com/understandi ... olarships/

[twballgame9]

Those numbers will not stay the same, as the article admits. That's complete speculation based on numbers they had to blow dust off of.

[HJS]

I don't think it is at all surprising that the private schools (and the decent public schools) have very little to make up in "full cost of attendance". Crap schools fudging numbers to entice more kids with "full scholarships" that ultimately leaves kids 25% short of actual cost should shock no one. Similarly, the fact that it occurs most often at government-run State schools should equally not surprise. By going the "full cost of attendance" route, all the Big 5 did was athletically reward these diploma mills for the prior bad practices (and incentivizes more schools to find new ways of screwing their regular students).

BC's vote against is remarkable only in its loneliness.

[2001Eagle]

I don't disagree with either of you, just saying that I'm sure this number and the lone dissenting vote is easy fodder to recruit against BC.

[HJS]

I don't disagree with either of you, just saying that I'm sure this number and the lone dissenting vote is easy fodder to recruit against BC.

I don't think that any kid who is considering BC is going to not pick BC based upon $3k in cash that they aren't getting. Technically, that money is something that is "needed" just to attend the school. One way to blunt it to parents who care is by saying... this is like (instead of giving a scholarship) giving your kid the exact cash needed to attend school. How confident would you be that your kid adequately manages it? Similarly, how confident are you that the additional $3k is going to be there when your kid needs it at the end of the semester? Further, if you really need to talk dollars and cents, 5 years at BC is $250k worth of education... most schools provide value at half that rate... we are talking the difference between a Bugatti and a suped-up Civic.

[RegalBCeagle]

I don't disagree with either of you, just saying that I'm sure this number and the lone dissenting vote is easy fodder to recruit against BC.

I don't think that any kid who is considering BC is going to not pick BC based upon $3k in cash that they aren't getting. Technically, that money is something that is "needed" just to attend the school. One way to blunt it to parents who care is by saying... this is like (instead of giving a scholarship) giving your kid the exact cash needed to attend school. How confident would you be that your kid adequately manages it? Similarly, how confident are you that the additional $3k is going to be there when your kid needs it at the end of the semester? Further, if you really need to talk dollars and cents, 5 years at BC is $250k worth of education... most schools provide value at half that rate... we are talking the difference between a Bugatti and a suped-up Civic.

The important comparison is how BC's "payout" compares to those of the schools we compete against for kids. How do we compare with OSU, ND, Michigan, Penn State, Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers, UCONN, and so on. I'm not too worried about how we stack up against SEC schools - FSU and Clemson notwithstanding. Also, did Dalton drop BC for Bama because of this?

[hinghameagle]

this is why I hated this legislature being passed. This is going to end up crooked beyond belief. At least in the pay for play system that the SEC currently operates under, you could at least just try to fool yourself that everything is on the up and up. But football staffers going to the school finance committees and telling them to raise the cost of attending, just so they can give potential recruits more money...and lets not fool ourselves, the schools will do it, really will do away with even the slightest pretension that anyone is concerned for the education of these athletes. This is the beginning of the end.

HJS I guarantee you that BC will absolutely lose recruits over this. Guarantee it. Not every kid they are recruiting will feel that the difference between what they can pay($1,400) and say what Clemson($2,220.00 more than BC)FSU($2,400.00 more)PSU($3,300.00 more)Rutgers( $1,500 more), MD($1,800.00 more)MIA($1,300.00 more) Pitt($1,900.00 more) and Wisc($3,000.00 more) is insignificant. Multiple these numbers x 4. Lets just say that a kid is 50/50 on Wisconsin v BC. Lets use Luben Figaro as an example. you don't think that when he finds out that he will get $12,000.00 more for going to Wisco than Bc that this wouldn't be an enormous swing factor. I don't think it will be a lot of kids, but 3-4 per year who will use it as a significant factor in their decision? I have no doubt about this.

[twballgame9]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

[Corporal Funishment]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

Everyone agrees that the number is meaningless in the sense that it will be calculated on a completely bogus basis designed to come out to the number the school wants - but the extra $10k a year that the recruit gets to spend on sneakers, jewelry, alcohol, and weed is quite meaningful.

[2001Eagle]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

what do you mean? the article says that the figures will likely be recalculated going forward, but the research is based on actual figures, as quoted in this other article. Once again, it points out that BC is at the bottom.

http://chronicle.com/article/At-Least-15-Athletics-Programs/229229/

[twballgame9]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

what do you mean? the article says that the figures will likely be recalculated going forward, but the research is based on actual figures, as quoted in this other article. Once again, it points out that BC is at the bottom.

http://chronicle.com/article/At-Least-15-Athletics-Programs/229229/

The numbers are artificial and created by financial aid departments for other purposes. They mean nothing.

[2001Eagle]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

what do you mean? the article says that the figures will likely be recalculated going forward, but the research is based on actual figures, as quoted in this other article. Once again, it points out that BC is at the bottom.

http://chronicle.com/article/At-Least-15-Athletics-Programs/229229/

The numbers are artificial and created by financial aid departments for other purposes. They mean nothing.

They are created for the purposes of financial aid calculations. But, going forward, they will definitely mean something as they will be the basis for what schools can pay their scholarship athletes.

[twballgame9]

These numbers are made up. Just saying. Not saying there won't be a discrepancy, but these numbers are utterly meaningless.

what do you mean? the article says that the figures will likely be recalculated going forward, but the research is based on actual figures, as quoted in this other article. Once again, it points out that BC is at the bottom.

http://chronicle.com/article/At-Least-15-Athletics-Programs/229229/

The numbers are artificial and created by financial aid departments for other purposes. They mean nothing.

They are created for the purposes of financial aid calculations. But, going forward, they will definitely mean something as they will be the basis for what schools can pay their scholarship athletes.

If the financial aid numbers are used, they won't be used long. Leagues will put an end to that as the basis for the calculation.

[StratEagle]

Did we ever get an explanation on Ronnie Blackmon?

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Did we ever get an explanation on Ronnie Blackmon?

He visitied in late March. I was expecting things to become official after that (now that he had visited since that was the one thing holding the staff back from accepting his commitment apparently).

247 and Rivals both list interest as BC being the favorite or high, but idk what is taking so long, maybe something academic ? Waiting for test scores ?

[ILikeBC]

Did we ever get an explanation on Ronnie Blackmon?

Study for your exams, Mitch.

[CTeagle08]

https://twitter.com/kobaywhite/status/593589502586785793

New commit...3 star wr, offers from several P5, from bishop mcdevitt, PA

[BCSUPERFAN22]

Kobay White is a huge pickup. He's someone the staff has been on for a long time and has a really good offer sheet including MSU, GT, UMD, PITT, UVA, Cuse, Ill , rut, Temple. Also a few other guys with BC/D1 interest from McDevitt, most notably Anthony Long, a DT with fairly similar offer sheet

[commavegarage]

"Proud to say I'm officially committing to Boston college university❗️❗️ "

And his name is Kobay and he plays WR?

Sounds like he's about to become my favorite player

[StratEagle]

Good stuff.

[Bunratty]

Very good pickup. Over 1,100 receiving yards and 15 TD's last season for a good program. #15 player in PA.

[ILikeBC]

YEAH GO BCU

[MattTheEagle]

Excellent pickup. Welcome aboard Kobay!

Looks like the kid has already sent a few tweets apologizing for the Boston College university error. He's not the first nor the last to make that mistake. I believe just last class a couple recruits did the same thing. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as the golden eagles thing. After all Boston College IS a university.

[claver2010]

kids got offers from half the acc, well done daz

[DomingoOrtiz]

Very pleased with this class thus far. Daz really needs to bring in a quality DT (or 2) this year!

[commavegarage]

Excellent pickup. Welcome aboard Kobay!

Looks like the kid has already sent a few tweets apologizing for the Boston College university error. He's not the first nor the last to make that mistake. I believe just last class a couple recruits did the same thing. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as the golden eagles thing. After all Boston College IS a university.

doesnt bother me at all. i wish we had more like kobay. on both the football and basketball team

[twballgame9]

So wait, is the sky still falling?

[flyingelvii]

Excellent pickup. Welcome aboard Kobay!

Looks like the kid has already sent a few tweets apologizing for the Boston College university error. He's not the first nor the last to make that mistake. I believe just last class a couple recruits did the same thing. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as the golden eagles thing. After all Boston College IS a university.

Tell that to our engineering school.

[MF73-Eleazar]

the number 15 player in PA is just a 3 star? don't get me wrong, i like that this kid committed in april. great pull by the staff, who's the recruiter for that region?

[Bunratty]

the number 15 player in PA is just a 3 star? don't get me wrong, i like that this kid committed in april. great pull by the staff, who's the recruiter for that region?

Not sure of the actual recruiter, but White was quoted as saying that he had developed a really close relationship with Leo Ferrine, and he had a lot to do with the commitment.