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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby angrychicken on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:32 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Tobias had us ranked or at least "also receiving votes" more often than not. has ts slaughter ever received votes (other than the bottom 10?). Tobias could lose an unexpected game every year, but kaptain katsup has some games you know we'll get blown out... even when runnng the prevent offense.

I hated Tobias as much as the next guy but I'd take him back over the current apeman

There are valid points on both sides as to why one is worse than the other, but I...too...would take TOB over the Ketchup Kween. I view it much like I would view the choice between having an arm amputated or a leg amputated. I would choose to have an arm amputated. It would suck, but I think that life would be much more difficult without a leg.

All of that other nonsense nospace is spewing is mind numbing.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:38 pm

angrychicken {l Wrote}:
TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Tobias had us ranked or at least "also receiving votes" more often than not. has ts slaughter ever received votes (other than the bottom 10?). Tobias could lose an unexpected game every year, but kaptain katsup has some games you know we'll get blown out... even when runnng the prevent offense.

I hated Tobias as much as the next guy but I'd take him back over the current apeman

There are valid points on both sides as to why one is worse than the other, but I...too...would take TOB over the Ketchup Kween. I view it much like I would view the choice between having an arm amputated or a leg amputated. I would choose to have an arm amputated. It would suck, but I think that life would be much more difficult without a leg.

All of that other nonsense nospace is spewing is mind numbing.

what if the choice was right arm vs left leg.



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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:03 pm

no wonder al left. He likely got tired of having shut thrown at him
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby DavidGordonsFoot on Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:07 pm

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I suppose you guys are going to accuse jhiggi of not watching the games, too?

I have no love for jhiggi but I know he watches the games because he reacts with emotion. You react to the games like one of those AIs Reuters and the AP use to generate game summaries.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby innocentbystander on Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:34 pm

DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}:
innocentbystander {l Wrote}:
I suppose you guys are going to accuse jhiggi of not watching the games, too?

I have no love for jhiggi but I know he watches the games because he reacts with emotion. You react to the games like one of those AIs Reuters and the AP use to generate game summaries.


I don't "react" at all. That is because I rarely (if ever) post while I am watching. The Georgia Tech game (this year) was the exception. I do believe (sitting on my living room couch, early morning, bathrobe and slippers and lap top) I did post during the game.

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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby TobaccoRoadEagle on Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:03 pm

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}: I have no love for jhiggi


This should surprise no one around here, for obvious reasons, I am not your "type"

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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:21 pm

Daz and TOB at this point are a wash, with TOBy having a slightly better conference record in a shittier conference, but with mostly better OOC slates. Daz compared to TOBy after year 4? Advantage TOB and its not close, but fuck that guy anyway and I'd rather have Slaughter.

It was the comparison of Jags and Toby that was truly retarded. Oh, and people that remember having hope for conference championships under 9 win ceiling are delusional.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby Corporal Funishment on Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:38 pm

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
DavidGordonsFoot {l Wrote}: I have no love for jhiggi


This should surprise no one around here, for obvious reasons, I am not your "type"

yep, you're a pure breed homo whereas foot prefers his dicks to come with more feminine surroundings


How exactly do you produce a pure breed homo?

Seems like you'd run into an issue
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby hansen on Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:00 am

twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Daz and TOB at this point are a wash, with TOBy having a slightly better conference record in a shittier conference, but with mostly better OOC slates. Daz compared to TOBy after year 4? Advantage TOB and its not close, but fuck that guy anyway and I'd rather have Slaughter.

It was the comparison of Jags and Toby that was truly retarded. Oh, and people that remember having hope for conference championships under 9 win ceiling are delusional.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby twballgame9 on Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:15 am

hansen {l Wrote}:
twballgame9 {l Wrote}:Daz and TOB at this point are a wash, with TOBy having a slightly better conference record in a shittier conference, but with mostly better OOC slates. Daz compared to TOBy after year 4? Advantage TOB and its not close, but fuck that guy anyway and I'd rather have Slaughter.

It was the comparison of Jags and Toby that was truly retarded. Oh, and people that remember having hope for conference championships under 9 win ceiling are delusional.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby HJS on Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:40 am

TobaccoRoadEagle {l Wrote}:Tobias had us ranked or at least "also receiving votes" more often than not. has ts slaughter ever received votes (other than the bottom 10?). Tobias could lose an unexpected game every year, but kaptain katsup has some games you know we'll get blown out... even when runnng the prevent offense.

I hated Tobias as much as the next guy but I'd take him back over the current apeman

I am with you up until that "take him back" comment. Just because I agree that TOB was better through 4 years (as Teddy says, shit ain't even close), that doesn't mean that TOB was so shitacular that I would want to revisit his squatting on the field picking fake grass days.

All that said, while I have no hope for Daz ever matching TOB's high watermark for wins in a season, I admit that it is unfair comparing TOB's and Spaz's Year 4. While the Gamblor was a legit hurdle for one year of recruiting, the program TOB inherited was eleventy billion times better than that of Daz. I'm not talking simply about the players. BC was not far removed from the Coughlin years. BC quickly moved on from Henning (unlike BC letting Spaz languish in suckitude). As a result, top players on that team were recruited by Coughlin. Further, BC really only had 1 poor season prior to TOB. This means that Toby's recruiting pitch was much more believable as kids recently saw a relevant BC program (as compared to Daz who inherited a program that football forgot). Simply... it was a greater challenge to rebuild BC post-Spaz than it was post-Henning.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby BostonCollege1 on Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:40 pm

I'm not seeing the MacDonald kid on BC's NLI page. Am I just missing it, is there an issue, or is it simply that someone at the Heights is too lazy to update the article?
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:08 pm

McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby claver2010 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:56 am

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby ATLeagle on Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:28 am

claver2010 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being


Yes. BC won't can't talk about it, but I think the musical chairs is also why Gardner is in Storrs. It becomes tricky and screws some kids, but I would prefer Daz being aggressive with scholarships than Spaz's old "who cares about 85 scholarships? 80 is just as good!" I wrote this before, but Spaz's apathy was the equivalent of self-imposed NCAA sanctions.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:12 am

ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being


Yes. BC won't can't talk about it, but I think the musical chairs is also why Gardner is in Storrs.


This is what makes taking so many WRs so infuriating! I would much rather have taken Gardner than Stonebrner in this class, especially after taking McStravick last year.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:30 am

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being


Yes. BC won't can't talk about it, but I think the musical chairs is also why Gardner is in Storrs.


This is what makes taking so many WRs so infuriating! I would much rather have taken Gardner than Stonebrner in this class, especially after taking McStravick last year.


You know Daz's love affair with gigantic slow unathletic white WRs and TEs. We have about 10 on the roster.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCSUPERFAN22 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:22 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being


Yes. BC won't can't talk about it, but I think the musical chairs is also why Gardner is in Storrs.


This is what makes taking so many WRs so infuriating! I would much rather have taken Gardner than Stonebrner in this class, especially after taking McStravick last year.


I disagree re: Stoneburner but could see your point if you substitute McQuarie for instance. No need to take 3 TE in one class. With that being said, as ATL pointed out, Im sure this will work itself out with some 5th year not being invited back, and I would personally rather take the chance on even a flyer from this class versus someone who is a proven non-commodity potentially playing a 5th year.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:38 pm

BCSUPERFAN22 {l Wrote}:
DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:
claver2010 {l Wrote}:
ATLeagle {l Wrote}:McDonald is coming. It is not an official SEC style grey shirt, but BC still needs an official scholarship to open up. Someone will get quit or flunk out this spring and officially open his spot.


so i guess that tells us where we are regarding 5th years as well for the time being


Yes. BC won't can't talk about it, but I think the musical chairs is also why Gardner is in Storrs.


This is what makes taking so many WRs so infuriating! I would much rather have taken Gardner than Stonebrner in this class, especially after taking McStravick last year.


I disagree re: Stoneburner but could see your point if you substitute McQuarie for instance. No need to take 3 TE in one class. With that being said, as ATL pointed out, Im sure this will work itself out with some 5th year not being invited back, and I would personally rather take the chance on even a flyer from this class versus someone who is a proven non-commodity potentially playing a 5th year.


Guys like Stoneburner and McStraviak make sense to me. You can include a Patrick Brown in this as well. You're getting kids from big time football states, kids who ran sub-4.5 at a football camp and mid-majors were all over within those states. These kids have the ability to help on ST with their speed should they not work out at WR. For as much as I bag on Callinan, he is criminally mid-used in this offense as an outside WR. He should be stretching the seams of defenses weekly with Sweeney. He is terrible as an outside WR because he has no ability to generate separation against elite DBs. He'd have 70-80 yards a game in the Aaron Hernandez role because LBs have no chance against him.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no reason to recruit this many blocking TEs and other kids you know can't contribute. These kids aren't athletic enough to contribute on ST, and frankly just get in the way on running plays because they all stink at blocking. They are about as much threat in the pass game as I am. Long, McQuarie, Bletzer, Palmer from the last 2 years all come to mind (I know Palmer and Bletzer aren't blocking TEs but same problem).

This roster is about where it should be, but BC takes so many fliers and dart-throws we're forced to play starters on ST because we have so many players that can't contribute.

Also stop recruiting NH and RI except for the once in a generation type player like Paye. You're frankly just being lazy offering kids from freaking Deerfield Academy. There is zero upside here and you'll never convince me otherwise.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:30 pm

jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Also stop recruiting NH and RI except for the once in a generation type player like Paye. You're frankly just being lazy offering kids from freaking Deerfield Academy. There is zero upside here and you'll never convince me otherwise.


I disagree. Stopping recruiting would hurt in that they would be less likely to land the once in a generation player when that player came along. Its worth it to recruit and throw a flyer or two type offer to those obscure states and hope they pan out while keeping open the lines of communication.


As evidenced by Paye, you're not landing those once in a generation players anyway. We recruit the shit out of CT and MA, and a majority of the time we whiff on the top guys.

Stop littering the roster with these kids who can't even contribute on special teams
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby BostonCollege1 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:52 pm

eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Also stop recruiting NH and RI except for the once in a generation type player like Paye. You're frankly just being lazy offering kids from freaking Deerfield Academy. There is zero upside here and you'll never convince me otherwise.


I disagree. Stopping recruiting would hurt in that they would be less likely to land the once in a generation player when that player came along. Its worth it to recruit and throw a flyer or two type offer to those obscure states and hope they pan out while keeping open the lines of communication.


As evidenced by Paye, you're not landing those once in a generation players anyway. We recruit the shit out of CT and MA, and a majority of the time we whiff on the top guys.

Stop littering the roster with these kids who can't even contribute on special teams


Debbie Downer, if we don't even try to recruit the top local players, should we just stop recruiting and shut down the program? Jamie Silva and Will Solomon say hi. If Daz doesn't push Brown to Michigan, Paye would be coming to the Heights.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:06 pm

BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Also stop recruiting NH and RI except for the once in a generation type player like Paye. You're frankly just being lazy offering kids from freaking Deerfield Academy. There is zero upside here and you'll never convince me otherwise.


I disagree. Stopping recruiting would hurt in that they would be less likely to land the once in a generation player when that player came along. Its worth it to recruit and throw a flyer or two type offer to those obscure states and hope they pan out while keeping open the lines of communication.


As evidenced by Paye, you're not landing those once in a generation players anyway. We recruit the shit out of CT and MA, and a majority of the time we whiff on the top guys.

Stop littering the roster with these kids who can't even contribute on special teams


Debbie Downer, if we don't even try to recruit the top local players, should we just stop recruiting and shut down the program? Jamie Silva and Will Solomon say hi. If Daz doesn't push Brown to Michigan, Paye would be coming to the Heights.


Daz did not push Brown out, not purposefully anyway.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby bceagles24 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:37 pm

Paye wasn't so much Don Brown, although it was a factor, as he was concerned about the coaching staff stability. Stable coaching staff Paye is coming to BC.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:53 pm

BostonCollege1 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:
jhiggi02 {l Wrote}:
eepstein0 {l Wrote}:Also stop recruiting NH and RI except for the once in a generation type player like Paye. You're frankly just being lazy offering kids from freaking Deerfield Academy. There is zero upside here and you'll never convince me otherwise.


I disagree. Stopping recruiting would hurt in that they would be less likely to land the once in a generation player when that player came along. Its worth it to recruit and throw a flyer or two type offer to those obscure states and hope they pan out while keeping open the lines of communication.


As evidenced by Paye, you're not landing those once in a generation players anyway. We recruit the shit out of CT and MA, and a majority of the time we whiff on the top guys.

Stop littering the roster with these kids who can't even contribute on special teams


Debbie Downer, if we don't even try to recruit the top local players, should we just stop recruiting and shut down the program? Jamie Silva and Will Solomon say hi. If Daz doesn't push Brown to Michigan, Paye would be coming to the Heights.


It doesn't help you recruiting them throwing random 2* flyers at kids who have no business playing D1 Football.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby flakes on Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:14 pm

I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby BCEagles66 on Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:01 pm

flakes {l Wrote}:I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.


Not as down on the WRs. Glines, Borgenson, Walker, Smith(s), White, Robinson and maybe Lewis....some mix of skills in there. Development needed, but potential is there.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:32 pm

BCEagles66 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.


Not as down on the WRs. Glines, Borgenson, Walker, Smith(s), White, Robinson and maybe Lewis....some mix of skills in there. Development needed, but potential is there.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby Tom Dooder on Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:14 pm

BCEagles66 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.


Not as down on the WRs. Glines, Borgenson, Walker, Smith(s), White, Robinson and maybe Lewis....some mix of skills in there. Development needed, but potential is there.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby DomingoOrtiz on Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:04 pm

BCEagles66 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.


Not as down on the WRs. Glines, Borgenson, Walker, Smith(s), White, Robinson and maybe Lewis....some mix of skills in there. Development needed, but potential is there.


You see a lot of potential in Borgenson whilst watching him standing on the sideline?
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Re: 2017 Recruiting Thread

Postby eepstein0 on Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:48 pm

DomingoOrtiz {l Wrote}:
BCEagles66 {l Wrote}:
flakes {l Wrote}:I am usually pretty pessimistic about recruiting, but I don't think this is a bad class. I think McDonald was a great late addition and I think the past two years have yielded some decent secondary prospects and athletes on D. The one thing that remains a complete and utter atrocity is wide receiver and I think something that will haunt us. If the o-line can develop I am not saying we can win the Atlantic, but I think we can field some competitive teams -- as long as Daz gets fired of course.


Not as down on the WRs. Glines, Borgenson, Walker, Smith(s), White, Robinson and maybe Lewis....some mix of skills in there. Development needed, but potential is there.


You see a lot of potential in Borgenson whilst watching him standing on the sideline?


I see potential in Smith if used correctly.

Walker needs to be more consistent, he is one of few that I actually see getting open. This was irrelevant when Patrick Cutler locked onto one guy last year.

If Thad or Robinson could catch they'd be good.
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